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HENRYANDROSEY View Profile |
New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
i like this pic, i just added it because it looks interesting and unusual.
Criticism, Advice for improvements Welcome! |
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| 04/29/08 02:56pm |
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Kojak View Profile |
Message To: HENRYANDROSEY In reference to Message Id: 1720126
Keep us posted and keep up the good work. |
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| 04/29/08 04:08pm |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Kojak In reference to Message Id: 1720235 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
Quote: I can foresee one snake behind the rock cave, and pushing it off of the shelf and crushing the unsuspecting snake below
I agree... and before you say, "I will attatch it or fasten it to the said shelf" How will you Clean the Hide and or shelf when one or both snakepoop or pee in it (?) food for thought :o) |
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| 04/29/08 05:24pm |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Kojak In reference to Message Id: 1720235 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
Covered or sealed ...so that one or both snakes can not curl up to it for warmth and get singed? |
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| 04/29/08 05:27pm |
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HENRYANDROSEY View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1720346 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
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| 04/30/08 11:08am |
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HENRYANDROSEY View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1720346 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
where do you get the foam stuff from |
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| 04/30/08 11:10am |
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HENRYANDROSEY View Profile |
Message To: HENRYANDROSEY In reference to Message Id: 1721055 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
With my incubator, I have a Styrofoam box, which is at 28 degrees Cent. The humidity inside the egg box is at 90%. p.s. a tip with humidity, lay some moss around the outside of the egg box, about a 1’’ high, be careful not to cover up any air holes. then spray the lid of the egg box, with water and on the top of the substrate, be careful not to get any water on the eggs. After wards, spray the insides of the incubator, this will increase you humidity to between 90-100%. just to let you know. With my egg box, i have filled it up with about 1’’ of vermiculite just to cover the eggs, and have then added 1cm of sphagnum moss over the tops of the eggs. Thanks Andrew and i hope this helps anyone who reads this post |
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| 05/01/08 06:47am |
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ScyllaCharybdis View Profile |
Message To: HENRYANDROSEY In reference to Message Id: 1721890 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
Have you read up on Breeding and Incubation? Because it sure doesn’t seem like you have. And the reason I ask...Is because every post of yours that I have read...Something in your husbandry is not just wrong but WAY wrong! Like your incubation temps...They are wrong! And if you do manage to hatch any at those temps...they will likely have a very high mortality rate (Death Rate) and/or birth defects!!! |
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| 05/02/08 10:19pm |
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Kojak View Profile |
Message To: HENRYANDROSEY In reference to Message Id: 1721890
Quote: With my incubator, I have a Styrofoam box, which is at 28 degrees Cent. This is too cool for corn eggs. You may be able to hatch out these eggs at that temp, but I don’t have high expectations for your clutch.
With such low temps, you stand to lose most of the viable eggs before they get close to the point of hatching. Quote: and have then added 1cm of sphagnum moss over the tops of the eggs.
This you have correct. Sphagnum moss contains steric acid, which will retard the growth and development of mold, mildew and some bacteria. Of course it also retains moisture very well, which is also critical to the development of the eggs.
Somewhere in the neighborhood of 86 to 88 degrees Fahrenheit is what you should be shooting for. I’m starting to see a trend here that concerns me. Although I appreciate your enthusiasm, you have posted some less than accurate information. I’m not sure where you are getting some of your facts, but I might suggest you refer to more than one source. Don’t take any one source of information as the final word. Research many different sources of information and look for consistencies. Good luck and keep us posted. |
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| 05/02/08 10:34pm |
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ScyllaCharybdis View Profile |
Message To: Kojak In reference to Message Id: 1723683 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
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| 05/02/08 10:52pm |
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Jessica71 View Profile |
Message To: ScyllaCharybdis In reference to Message Id: 1723696 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
Quote: With my incubator, I have a Styrofoam box, which is at 28 degrees Cent.
Although I share all these concerns about Andrew’s husbandry and have said so many times, 28C is 82F, which is a perfectly acceptable temperature for incubation.This is too cool for corn eggs. You may be able to hatch out these eggs at that temp, but I don’t have high expectations for your clutch. |
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| 05/03/08 12:18am |
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HENRYANDROSEY View Profile |
Message To: Kojak In reference to Message Id: 1723683 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
’The Guide to Owning a Corn Snake’ by Jerry G. Walls ’Snakes’ by David Badger and John Netherton ’Reptile Keppers Guide’by R.D and Patricia Bartlett. Oh, and if you say all of my information is incorrect then how about you point me in the right direction instead of saying this is all wrong. Im not experenced. this is my frst breeding season, which wasn’t meant to happen. |
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| 05/03/08 05:54am |
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HENRYANDROSEY View Profile |
Message To: HENRYANDROSEY In reference to Message Id: 1723793 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
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| 05/03/08 05:55am |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: HENRYANDROSEY In reference to Message Id: 1723794 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
and beak down or get stuck on one setting. You Need a Digital Thermometer/Hydrometer! |
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| 05/03/08 06:52am |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: HENRYANDROSEY In reference to Message Id: 1723794 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
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| 05/03/08 06:52am |
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Looney-45 View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1723806 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
Not having a go or any thing just putting my facts across. Love the set up BTW and your eggs are looking great good-luck with them. |
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| 05/03/08 07:40am |
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Marg View Profile |
Message To: Looney-45 In reference to Message Id: 1723829 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
Quote: and then you get the few who like to think they know it all but actually don’t know jack sh**t. Who are you refering to? |
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| 05/03/08 07:52am |
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Looney-45 View Profile |
Message To: Marg In reference to Message Id: 1723840 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
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| 05/03/08 07:57am |
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Looney-45 View Profile |
Message To: Looney-45 In reference to Message Id: 1723843 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
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| 05/03/08 08:00am |
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Candy_Corn View Profile |
Message To: Jessica71 In reference to Message Id: 1723746 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
Quote: Although I share all these concerns about Andrew’s husbandry and have said so many times, 28C is 82F, which is a perfectly acceptable temperature for incubation.
I agree with this statement, Jessica. I personally haven’t hatched out any corns, but I know a breeder who has hatched many, and she only uses a room that’s about 82 degrees with no heat source. I’ve also heard other breeders say this on the corn forum before. Andrew, good luck with the eggs! |
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| 05/03/08 08:28am |
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ScyllaCharybdis View Profile |
Message To: HENRYANDROSEY In reference to Message Id: 1723793 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
Quote: ’The Guide to Owning a Corn Snake’ by Jerry G. Walls
Well that’s good to hear.
’Snakes’ by David Badger and John Netherton ’Reptile Keppers Guide’by R.D and Patricia Bartlett. I would still recommend the Book I pictured above though. Quote: Oh, and if you say all of my information is incorrect then how about you point me in the right direction instead of saying this is all wrong. Don’t take this personal...but I’m tired of spoon-feeding lazy owners. That was why I didn’t.
Now that it seems (since you do have a few books on Corns) that you’re not so lazy after all. But new owners need to do some reading and research on their own and then come on the forum to ask questions to help clarify or "tweak" their set-up or care. Quote: Im not experenced. this is my frst breeding season, which wasn’t meant to happen. Get the base of your knowledge in current books (like the one I recommended)...Ask questions on forums to improve your set-up and care...Experience will simply come in time.
Wisema2297, Jessica71 and Kojak are 3 people you should listen closely to! And as far as this being your first breeding season "which wasn’t meant to happen"...THIS one of many reasons why you shouldn’t house snakes together. |
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| 05/03/08 01:06pm |
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HENRYANDROSEY View Profile |
Message To: ScyllaCharybdis In reference to Message Id: 1724064 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
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| 05/04/08 10:26am |
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HENRYANDROSEY View Profile |
Message To: HENRYANDROSEY In reference to Message Id: 1724742 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
Andrew. |
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| 05/04/08 10:42am |
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Cherub View Profile |
Message To: Kojak In reference to Message Id: 1723683
Hi all...just gonna put my 2 pennies worth in ...86 to 88 is a little too high and may make your eggs hatch a little too soon..leaving you with poorly babies to care for....we all make misakes ..hopefully we learn by them as you are doing now.......jessica is spot on, in all that she has said..i trust her judgment and value her opinions..i have had 4 clutches, and lots of advice from jessica in the past and my clutches made it, only because i listened to good advice. some of the eggs in the picture dont look too good..thats just my opinion..but as jessica said it doesnt do any harm to leave them in for a while..i hope you do have some babies out of this.. dont forget to let us know how they get on...btw..i have kathy love book and she does say that 82 is a good incubation temerature.. good luck..Diane |
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| 05/07/08 03:11pm |
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ScyllaCharybdis View Profile |
Message To: Looney-45 In reference to Message Id: 1723829 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
Quote: Theirs always a few trying to have a dig on here, as for the incubater temps they are spot on and humidity should be 80-100% but 100 is better so who hasn’t done their homework? I am pretty sure we all want the best for our corns so there for read books and care sheets etc. Some people are more advanced than others and then you get the few who like to think they know it all but actually don’t know jack sh**t. Nobody is trying to "Dig" on anyone smart-a$$!
From the "Books" that I have read and in my experience I have always made 82’ish the night time low and 86 - 88 the day time high when incubating. I know quite a bit and I’m sure your childish comments simply come from your panties being all wadded up in your crotch! Here is exactly what is written that is another example of where I’m coming from... "I’ve seen eggs hatch anywhere from 72 to over 90 degrees with no ill effects. Stable temperatures are not as important as most breeders believe. In fact, recent research indicates that some variation in temperature may actually produce a more even sex ratio in the hatchlings and produce larger, stronger hatchlings." And... "Much has been written about incubation, too much in fact. In truth, a healthy clutch will hatch in just about anything other than the glove compartment of your car. The only requirements are that humidity be held rather high and that temperatures stay within reason." Now if you want to make nice instead of being the jerk that you accused me of...fine! I can make nice too! If you read all the other post from the OP besides just this thread...You would have realized that this was new for them and I was simply providing guidance! As was Kojak. Again...Varying the temps makes for a heartier Corn Snake! |
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| 05/08/08 03:47am |
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HENRYANDROSEY View Profile |
Message To: ScyllaCharybdis In reference to Message Id: 1728958 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
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| 05/08/08 04:38am |
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ScyllaCharybdis View Profile |
Message To: HENRYANDROSEY In reference to Message Id: 1728962 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
Again...We were (and are) just trying to help you out. |
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| 05/08/08 05:52pm |
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Reptilelver101 View Profile |
Message To: ScyllaCharybdis In reference to Message Id: 1729575 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
Quote: We were (and are) just trying to help you out.
I’m really sorry to add to this But I am Ticked on how you are (not kojak... he said it more polite then you) Ok first of all if you say i’m tired of spoon feeding these people THEN DON"T SAY ANYTHING!!!!!!!Geeze! This all happened b4 Looney said somthing I mean really I know they had said criticism welcomed but I REALLY don’t think they meant Throw It In My face! Again I’m sorry for adding to this but really come on now.....This is not an all out war on people! So BACK OFF! IF PEOPLE ARE BOTHERING YOU OR DOING SOMTHING WRONG APPOLOGIZE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You were acting like Hen&Rose Just went out and bought a corn thinking it was a monkey! BUT REALLY IF YOU WANTED TO STOP THE PROBLEM YOU WOULDVE NICELY ADDED ANOTHER POST SAYING TO HEN&ROSE SAYING I"M SORRY!!!! I’m so sorry but somthing had to be said I mean they just wanted advice not an all out war!!!!!!!!!!!!(Scylla not all of this is pointing at you F.Y.I) -ReptileLvr101 |
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| 05/08/08 06:10pm |
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Reptilelver101 View Profile |
Message To: Reptilelver101 In reference to Message Id: 1729598 New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
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| 05/08/08 06:12pm |
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New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)
New pics of Henry and Rosie Viv’. (criticism Welcome)