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 #2087009


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 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

I got a baby coern snake 9 days ago form a pet store..He was healthy and 100% fine...Well last night he was fine moving around cage etc..Tried to fed him he denied...I com hom today he is on the edge of dieing he cant move at all.he is fliping up side down and back and tyrign to move as much as possible..He can barly move at all i sat him onbed he could go any were...He has under tank heater...lamp/hides/water bowl etc everything tems around 75-80f hes been fine pleaes let me know anything that i can do to save him he is moing a lil..Hes tyring atleast pleaes hlep!
10/21/09  03:36pm

 #2087025


Snakesgalore
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   Message To: Corn snake   In reference to Message Id: 2087009


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

do you have any pics of him? i had a 2 year old corn that was very healthy eating every week was active i placed her on my lap and she flipd upside down and went very stiff almost like your saying i upped her temps and placed her in a room that had very lil traffic but that night when i got home from work she had passd away on me i was very sad cuz it was my first snake i ever got
10/21/09  04:06pm

 #2087027


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   Message To: Snakesgalore   In reference to Message Id: 2087025


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

I have pics befor this happend yes...I was looking at him..He ate 1 week ago but his skin is like tightened up lik he is starving kidna and has lost weight..But hes been fed
10/21/09  04:11pm

 #2087037


Fairy Frog Mother
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   Message To: Corn snake   In reference to Message Id: 2087027


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

does he have water?
10/21/09  04:21pm

 #2087041


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   Message To: Fairy Frog Mother   In reference to Message Id: 2087037


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

Yes he does..He has everything he needs..as of what his tank has been staying...40-45% humidity...75-80degres...aspen water bowl..2 hides and some fake plants..Same stuff i have had in all my other snakes tanks..Never any problems
10/21/09  04:25pm

 #2087045


EvilTrailMix
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   Message To: Corn snake   In reference to Message Id: 2087009


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

Flipping upside down/slithering on its side or back is a sign of a genetic disorder called stargazing. Give this website a look and compare it to what your snake is doing. They’ve got a couple of video clips.

Stargazing

The not eating isn’t anything to be worried about yet; babies should eat every 5-7 days but they can go weeks without.

Have you been handling him all these 9 days? If so, he will be really stressed out. You need to leave him alone for a full week and then try to feed him a small meal. (Then don’t handle him for 48 hours)

Also, do you have any hides for him? If he’s living in a big empty tank, he will feel exposed and that will stress him out too. He needs at least 2 hides, one for each side of the tank, but more is better.

One more thing; bumping up the temperature on the warm side may help. Babies like a warm side between 85-90F so if you’ve got your UTH on a dimmer, turn it up a bit. Also, the temps need to be measured with the thermometors laying directly on the bedding; sticking them to the glass won’t get you an accurate reading.)

Good luck with your little guy!
10/21/09  04:27pm

 #2087047


Snakesgalore
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   Message To: Corn snake   In reference to Message Id: 2087041


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

he might have had a stroke some times there is a hic cup in the genetics and this will result in a heatly snake taken a very bad turn for the worse
10/21/09  04:28pm

 #2087052


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   Message To: Snakesgalore   In reference to Message Id: 2087047


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

I dont thank he is star gazing or w/e...He’s never had any problems with it befor or anyting nothing close to what he is doin now...Hes got 1 hide on hot side 1 hid on the cooler side..I let him sit for 3 days then fed him then 2 more then held him..Wasnt ruf with him at all seeing that he is just a baby....
10/21/09  04:35pm

 #2087066


Snakesgalore
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   Message To: Corn snake   In reference to Message Id: 2087052


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

take him to vet then none of us are vets we cant help up in this matter we have said what it could be but none of use are traind to diagnose what your snake has
10/21/09  04:57pm

 #2087079


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   Message To: Snakesgalore   In reference to Message Id: 2087066


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

Well....imo i dont thank you know if everyone on this site that looks at these fourms are vets or not..So dont put in yoru input..I’m trying to see if anyone has had this happen to there snakes..Or know about it or read about it...I mean its worth asking so please dont bring comments in here if it isnt going to help at all...Thank you!
10/21/09  05:10pm

 #2087085


Snakesgalore
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   Message To: Corn snake   In reference to Message Id: 2087079


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

well cornsnake imo i think we have gave a few opinions about what is happening to your snake and you shot them down faster then a cricket in a gecko tank and i think many people here would say the same thing to take it to a vet and get him chekd out it could be fixable but the more you wait on here looking for an answer you could have had him to the vet and been home by now with the proper diagnosis and thats my opinion a sick animal should be treated like a person say if you had this happen to you youd want to go to the hospital wouldnt you?



10/21/09  05:21pm

 #2087090


Snakesgalore
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   Message To: Snakesgalore   In reference to Message Id: 2087085


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

and didnt you post that you smoke both cigs and pot in the same room os your snake? that could have had an ill effect on this lil guy and if its the albino that you have pics posted of it could just be cuz of the hic cup in the genetics i bought one at a reptile expo was perfectly fine 3 days later at home it passed away no reason he flipped around like you described and poof it was gone so like i said befor take him to a vet
10/21/09  05:28pm

 #2087097


Corn snake
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   Message To: Snakesgalore   In reference to Message Id: 2087090


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

No i dont smoke in the same room as him...I askd if it would be bad for him...I askd this soon as i got him and have ben out in the garage....Like i said I com home and he was liek this....He already passed away a lil bit ago...I didnt have much time to doanything I had schoool......
10/21/09  05:44pm

 #2087099


EvilTrailMix
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   Message To: Corn snake   In reference to Message Id: 2087052


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

Three days isn’t long enough, though. It takes time for a snake to adapt to its new environment, especially if it’s young. Starting today, leave him alone for a whole week and then offer him a small meal. Some snakes just take longer to acclimate than others. When handling, only keep him out for about 15 minutes, and only once or twice a day. You can gradually work your way up to handling more often, but it’s best to take it slow in the beginning.

If he keeps on turning upside down you could take him to a vet, but really, those sort of disorders are neurological and are either inherited or caused by high temperatures either during incubation or after, and there’s nothing a vet can do for that. Plus, the added stress of being taken to the vet would make him less likely to eat for you. I’d focus on getting him to eat regularly before you do anything else.

I suppose it may be possible that he has mites and is scratching them, so you could give him a look over and see if you can see any tiny bugs under his scales (you might see them as lumpy or raised scales) or in his bedding. If that’s the case, you can buy some Mite-off or other brand of mite killer from your pet store and take care of that.



10/21/09  05:46pm

 #2087164


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   Message To: EvilTrailMix   In reference to Message Id: 2087099


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

Sorry you lost the little guy. Sometimes that happens to them. I don’t know why, but working in a breeding facility I have seen it happen on several ocations, even the ones that were eating regularly and growing nicely. Then one day, dead.

It could be genetics, if you think about it a lot of the reptiles on the market today are inbread, that is how all of the bright colors are created. Because of this, the genetics do get a little screwed up and you never really know what will happen.

I have personally lost several baby corns suddenly.



10/21/09  07:44pm

 #2087188


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   Message To: OX   In reference to Message Id: 2087164


 HELP ASAP!!!PLEASE SOON very soon or he will die

Yea i know...It was sad..Cause he was a fisty lil fella lol love lil baby corns when there nippy at first funny imo cuase they thank there doing damage but there really not..lol..But he was pretty...I have a freind that is a breeder and is going to an expo..I’m going to clean up the tnak really good and all the acceseries and get me another baby corn..I still have my 6ft red tail but i want another smaller snake that isnt as big of a hastle to get out lol
10/21/09  08:18pm


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