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#2255397 Lani123 View Profile	Supplements? What supplements should I use for my corn, or non?
02/15/12  03:07pm
#2255467 Snakeman14 View Profile	Message To: Lani123   In reference to Message Id: 2255397  Supplements? i dont think it needs them unless its not getting enough vitamins and stuff in his diet. but im not forsure.
02/15/12  09:58pm
#2255565 Old rex View Profile	Message To: Snakeman14   In reference to Message Id: 2255467  Supplements? They should get plenty from the food like like mice
02/16/12  03:46pm
#2255584 Fairy Frog Mother View Profile	Message To: Old rex   In reference to Message Id: 2255565  Supplements? What Old Rex said. If you feed them mice that have been well fed, they should get all the nutrition they need.
02/16/12  05:00pm
#2255639 Lani123 View Profile	Message To: Fairy Frog Mother   In reference to Message Id: 2255584  Supplements? Well I feed her 1-2 hoppers every 5 days. The hoppers nurse my mother mice, and the mother mice eat a mix of: Sunflower seeds, corn, dog kibble, millet, rye, oats, stale bread, veggies or chicken here and there, other grain products, nature patch organic cereal and other dye-less cereals, and a bit of this and that.
02/16/12  09:58pm
#2255659 Cphill58 View Profile	Message To: Lani123   In reference to Message Id: 2255639  Supplements? Lani-MYG, all snakes get their protein and vitamins from the rodents they eat. It is completely unnecessary to add or provide supplements to a snakes diet. Only under a vets recommendation for a snake that is ill would you need to add anything else.
02/17/12  12:29am
#2255666 Lani123 View Profile	Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2255659  Supplements? What does MYG mean cp?
02/17/12  01:23am
#2255673 Cphill58 View Profile	Message To: Lani123   In reference to Message Id: 2255666  Supplements? Miss you Geico...
02/17/12  02:05am
#2255674 Lani123 View Profile	Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2255673  Supplements? Oh...
02/17/12  02:35am
#2255684 Fairy Frog Mother View Profile	Message To: Lani123   In reference to Message Id: 2255674  Supplements? And Lani, it sounds like your mice get a really great diet. I have to give you Kudos for asking a lot of questions. CLEARLY you care for your pets. I think I said it in another post, but beware of overfeeding your snake. One prey item once a week should be plenty- unless the backbone is showing. Overfeeding or "Powerfeeding" ( the practice of intentionally feeding two or more prey items in a feeding on a regular basis) is extremely detrimental to your snakes health. They get heart and organ problems, just like us humans. It seriously shortens their life span from 20-25 years normally down to 5-8 years if left unchecked. You can spoil your pet instead ( snakes would rather be left alone, but will get used to us fussing) by providing fresh water, spot cleaning the tank of any urates or feces or sheds right away, making sure the temps are right. Really- snakes are simple yet beautiful critters. Good luck!
02/17/12  08:13am
#2255920 Lani123 View Profile	Message To: Fairy Frog Mother   In reference to Message Id: 2255684  Supplements? Ok no supp. It’s so hard not to overfeed! I give her one and then she goes around the feeding bin licking up blood and mouse pee, and when I give her another she eats it up. One thing I noticed is it takes her 3 mins+ to swallow each hopper... Yet, she still wants more...
02/19/12  01:18am
#2255938 Cphill58 View Profile	Message To: Lani123   In reference to Message Id: 2255920  Supplements? Although the snake may be smelling with it’s tongue the urine and blood...it is not licking it up. If the snake can eat 2 hoppers easily maybe you should start feeding it 1 small sub adult...often called a speedster. Have you posted pics of the corn snake ? How big is it ?
02/19/12  10:54am
#2255964 Lani123 View Profile	Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2255938  Supplements? The hoppers she eats she can barely get down and like I said it takes her 3 mins + to eat one. She would not be able to eat a speedster/small adult mouse.
02/19/12  01:50pm
#2255968 Cphill58 View Profile	Message To: Lani123   In reference to Message Id: 2255964  Supplements? Hmmm , OK ... mine take a few minutes to eat a hopper / speedster as well... the frozen thawed ones I use look like this.. Fed them last night ....they powered down a speedster with ease ..taking no more than 5 minutes.
02/19/12  02:16pm
#2255989 Lani123 View Profile	Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2255968  Supplements? Anoxes is a wee bit shorter than those snakes and a lot thicker. Plus, Ann has never regurgitated anything! So I really think it’s fine to keep her on 2 hoppers every 5 days. She’s thriving on it!
02/19/12  04:02pm
#2256262 Lani123 View Profile	Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2255968  Supplements? Oh, Cp the ones you call ’sub adult speedster’ are the size I’m feeding Ann... Btw anyone know why the mice eyes do that weird thing in the freezer. Hey I’m excited now! Why? Anoxes ate 1 "speedster" today with no difficulty and it took (approx) 35 seconds! One more thing, after she ate when I lifted her to put her back in her cage, her mouth started bubbling (I told myself ’rabies’, lol) and a long string of liquid like mucusish stuff drooped out of her mouth... Sorry for the detail,
02/21/12  01:48am
#2256423 Lani123 View Profile	Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2255968  Supplements? Cp!!! Answer! Is it ok that she had that snot like stuff come out of her mouth? read post above.
02/22/12  02:24pm
#2256507 Cphill58 View Profile	Message To: Lani123   In reference to Message Id: 2256423  Supplements? I am out of state working ...get a grip and stop stamping your feet. I am lucky to even get a wireless signal tonight. I have no clue what your snakes are doing ...when it occurred / if it just had a huge drink of water ...if your temps are correct...what enclosure / environment you provide / substrate. Did you medicate the mice with Ivomec??? You are all over the map and I can not keep track of you or your critters... why don’t you post pictures?? Please give as many details as you can including how you measure the temps...I saw your web site and the advice you offer ...but I have never seen pictures of your set up. I won’t be back until Saturday.... You better start learning and practicing some manners young lady....
02/22/12  11:24pm
#2256527 Lani123 View Profile	Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2256507  Supplements? Sorry, Cphill... :( I forgot to add lol or a smile I guess. You’re a big help and I shouldn’t take advantage of you... One thing after another. She’s on Aspen snake bedding, she has 2 hides on the cool side, one taped to the top of her cage (humid hide, stays in there ALL the time), and one hide on the hot side. I measure temps with a sticky thermometer and a digital once and a while. Cool side 75F middle 81, hot side 86-100 (100 being rare). I do leave her food VERY wet when I fed it to her... I have not given any on my mice ANY med’s ever.
02/23/12  01:43am
#2256822 Cphill58 View Profile	Message To: Lani123   In reference to Message Id: 2256527  Supplements? If the snake gets a very wet rodent and it has substrate stuck to it ...maybe she was just eliminating the yickma...? Has she done it again / anymore?
02/25/12  01:20pm
#2256826 Lani123 View Profile	Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2256822  Supplements? This was the first time I’ve seen her do it. She eats in a box with nothing in it, but I keep the mice wet because I’ve never seen her drink from her water bowl. Just slurping water off herself when I spray the humid hide with her in it. Thank you for responding, sorry about my rudeness :)
02/25/12  02:13pm
#2256829 Cphill58 View Profile	Message To: Lani123   In reference to Message Id: 2256826  Supplements? Well , I must say you sure are different...wet mice...live or frozen thawed? Just because you don’t see them drink doesn’t mean they don’t ...you might cause the snake some unnecessary harm if you keep doing that?? I notice that after a meal within minutes my snakes will usually drink...sometimes I go so far as to gently put their head in the water so they know it’s there...often times a fresh bowl of water will get them to drink also.Always have fresh water ..change it 2x a week. You are forgiven ...peace
02/25/12  02:29pm
#2256843 Lani123 View Profile	Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2256829  Supplements? The live mice I do not dampen, I think that would be to cruel to the mice... The thawed ones are the ones I wet.
02/25/12  04:52pm
#2256854 Cphill58 View Profile	Message To: Lani123   In reference to Message Id: 2256843  Supplements? Whenever I do frozen thawed I take an old towel and pat the rodent dry before serving...
02/25/12  08:14pm
#2256873 Lani123 View Profile	Message To: Cphill58   In reference to Message Id: 2256854  Supplements? OK, will do. Thanks cp!
02/26/12  12:14am

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