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 #362547


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 New PICS of female!!!

Here are some quick pics of my female I took today. I got her back in February 2004 as well but at 17 inches. She is now about 40-42 inches. Hope you like them!



-Adam



06/04/05  08:23pm

 #362581


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  Message To: Anole_keeper   In reference to Message Id: 362547


 New PICS of female!!!

Nice female corn !



06/04/05  09:11pm

 #362610


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  Message To: Flip   In reference to Message Id: 362581


 New PICS of female!!!

Thanks! Anyone elsE?



06/04/05  09:45pm

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  Message To: Anole_keeper   In reference to Message Id: 362610


 New PICS of female!!!

she’s a pretty thing, adam!! quite beautiful, is she a reverse okeetee? gorgeous!

jen



06/04/05  10:08pm

 #362640


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  Message To: Cornlover   In reference to Message Id: 362630


 New PICS of female!!!

Thanks Jen! She’s just a good ole’ amelanistic (albino). In person though, she is almost totally orange with red saddles. As you can see, in the pics she looks more white than she really is.



06/04/05  10:19pm

 #362644


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  Message To: Anole_keeper   In reference to Message Id: 362640


 New PICS of female!!!

this is my amel male, nakoorie...he’s my baby!!

jen


and this is my new puppy gypsy!!


she’s so cute...i justa had to post her!!lol



06/04/05  10:23pm

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  Message To: Cornlover   In reference to Message Id: 362644


 New PICS of female!!!

Very nice amel.! The amels. come in such different colors that each is like a different morph in itself LOL! OMG, your puppy is adorable! How old is she?

-Adam



06/04/05  10:26pm

 #362654


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  Message To: Anole_keeper   In reference to Message Id: 362648


 New PICS of female!!!

gypsy is 10 weeks old, now, the picture is two weeks old...she’s cute!!



06/04/05  10:31pm

 #362665


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  Message To: Cornlover   In reference to Message Id: 362654


 New PICS of female!!!

All I can say is SOOOOO CUTE! I forgot to ask though, what breed is she?



06/04/05  10:40pm

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  Message To: Anole_keeper   In reference to Message Id: 362665


 New PICS of female!!!

Adam, your female is stunning. What a handsome breeding pair you have! How are the babies? I hope the parents are proud lol!!!

Jen, your puppy is SOOO cute!! Those big eyes... he’d get away with murder with that expression on his face I’m sure!

Jessica



06/05/05  06:26am

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  Message To: Anole_keeper   In reference to Message Id: 362665


 New PICS of female!!!

Adam, your female is stunning. What a handsome breeding pair you have! How are the babies? I hope the parents are proud lol!!!

Jen, your puppy is SOOO cute!! Those big eyes... she’d get away with murder with that expression on her face I’m sure!

Jessica



06/05/05  06:27am

 #362874


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  Message To: Jessica71   In reference to Message Id: 362873


 New PICS of female!!!

Sorry I posted twice - just noticed your puppy is a girl, Jen lol!!!!



06/05/05  06:28am

 #362899


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  Message To: Jessica71   In reference to Message Id: 362874


 New PICS of female!!!

no problem!! she’s an english springer spaniel...i have a liver and white male springer, i have gypsy, i have a retreiver/shepherd mix(named cuddles), i have a beagle/bluetick hound cross(named roofie), and an old walker hound named bree....my male springer is CJ...i got gypsy so i could have a breeding pair...i also have a dsh cat that throws ploydactyl kittens(multi-toed)...i had a lady from madison wisconsin drive up here yesterday(15 hour drive-over800 miles) to buy two of my kittens...all i was asking was $75 each for the kittens...they wanted two, so with the vet check, it was $200 canadian i needed for both...she paid me $205 american!! which is $256 with the exchange, so i made a little bit more than i expected to...very cool...but imagine, to drive all that way!!! crazy!!!

so yes, i am crazy too, with all my animals...i also want a parrot...but that will be when my kids are gone out of the house...when they’ve grown...until then, just the regular-snakes, dogs, cats, salamanders, horses,.......lol

jen



06/05/05  10:04am

 #362963


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  Message To: Cornlover   In reference to Message Id: 362899


 New PICS of female!!!

Yeah that’s quite a lot of animals you have there! I think a parrot would be great. I think having a bird of prey would be fantastic too - my husband and I had a go at falconry in Scotland last year and it was fantastic! - we took a Harris hawk for a walk and met the other birds the falconer keeps, including this European eagle owl - had to show you this picture because the bird was so fantastic although my hair is a mess because it was raining! lol.



What kind of horses do you have?

Off to drill a hole in the new viv for the heater! Speak later,

Jessica



06/05/05  12:20pm

 #363034


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  Message To: Jessica71   In reference to Message Id: 362963


 New PICS of female!!!

LOL, once again... take a guess... yep that’s right... late as usual !!!

Anyway, Adam your female is stunning, I know you got her in Feb 04 but how old is she. Very nice. Have to admit, I would have said a reverse okeetee if you hadn’t told Jen already.

Jen, your puppy is sooooo adorable. Not much else I can say that no one else already has.

Jessica, I’ve been to 2 Falconry’s in Scotland, also one in England near Salisbury (can’t remember the exact name). I got some pics taken there, it was a fantastic day !!!
Loved every minute of it... Got to hold some Birds of Prey as well (With the big annoying leather gloves lol). What was the one in Scotland you went to?

C ya

- Shaun



06/05/05  01:48pm

 #363061


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  Message To: King_Doc_10   In reference to Message Id: 363034


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Hi Shaun,

The falconer lives in Kinlochewe in Wester Ross, near Loch Torridon. He and his wife own a bed and breakfast there, and when we went which was last November, all the birds were tied to perches on the front lawn - amazing! He had a golden eagle too, the first time I’d ever seen one, and a snowy owl, which was absolutely gorgeous. Birds of prey are a lot of work though - snakes are much easier! This European eagle owl was called Gudrun and she let me stroke her feathers. They were so soft!

I’m a bit annoyed/upset because we just attached the heater to the wall of the new viv, but when we were trying to staple the heater sensor to the ceiling of the viv (the way we’ve done for the other two), the staple gun decided to stop working properly and pierced the sensor cord, and now the heater doesn’t work (well at least I don’t know if it worked before, but it certainly doesn’t now!). So we’ll have to buy a new one, AND a new staple gun. The expense never ends with snakes! Still, at least all our little friends are ok. That’s the main thing. I took Henri out of the tank in her lay box and put her in the sitting room while the drilling was being done, and she came out eventually (she probably got cold even though I had a fan heater on in there - bl**dy June and it’s still 14 degrees!), so I’ve removed and disinfected the lay box and filled it with damp wood chips as a humid hide because she’s going to shed soon. She had a drink too and we’ll feed her tonight. Adam, how long do you think we should feed fuzzies for? When should we build up to bigger prey? She’s so thin...

Speak to you later,

Jessica



06/05/05  02:21pm

 #363193


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  Message To: Jessica71   In reference to Message Id: 363061


 New PICS of female!!!

Hi Jessica,

I can’t say I’ve been to the Falconer in Kinlochewe (He sounds very good and experienced), but I have been to Loch Torridon a few times with my cousins and Papa (Although my favourite is either "Loch Long" or "The Smiddy"). Beautiful place, very scenic.
Sounds like a very good day out, might go one day.

Sorry to hear about the staple gun incident. I would be very annoyed as well, presuming it happened to me. Take it you have bought a wooden viv (since you need to attach the heater to the wall of the enclosure, I had to do that before I got a glass one), I prefer wooden ones, not exactly sure why, just think they look better. What would make me even more annoyed/angry, is if the heater was brand new. As you said, the main thing is that everyone is alright, on that subject how is Henri and the eggs.


JUNE, JUNE, JUNE !!!!!!!! No way. This was supposed to be a hot summer this year, according to predictors. One of the coldest in ages, I don’t think it could get much worse if it tried.

- Speak to you soon

- Shaun



06/05/05  05:20pm

 #363232


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  Message To: King_Doc_10   In reference to Message Id: 363193


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Yeah, I know. One hot day so far, or two at a push. We’ve had some reasonable weather, well what would be reasonable for April anyway, but that’s it really. Mind you as I’ve mentioned before I find it unbearable when it’s hot in the south east because it’s just so humid at the same time. That’s what makes our weather so crap in the UK, the humidity and the fact that it’s overcast so much of the time - as it doesn’t actually rain as much in London as it does in Rome, for instance - but it makes it feel colder in winter and warmer in summer. When the heat is dry like in Spain it’s so much more bearable than 30 degrees and 80% humidity uurgghh! Remember that very hot day 2 years ago in August when it got up to 38 (100) at Heathrow? That was unbearable!

Yes, the viv is wooden. Luckily I have this week off work (apart from a one day course on Friday) so I’ll go and change the heater - but yes I was pretty annoyed! But it can’t be helped. Henri is fine thanks, becoming more herself if thin. She’s very opaque and lethargic but has just eaten two fuzzies again and I hope will be her old self after shedding. Gerald’s not getting his hands(?) on her again though - we don’t want another ten eggs this year!

Jessica



06/05/05  06:24pm

 #363282


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  Message To: Jessica71   In reference to Message Id: 363232


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Yep I hate it when it’s all hot ’n sticky, lol. Ruins the good weather all over the UK when it’s like that (not that we see much of that here in Scotland). Yeah I remember (I think) the weather got outragious one day in heathrow couple of years back. Just like being abroad, lol, without the Sun, Sand, Sea of course. Yep Think everyone would like to swap weather with Spain, 10 times better when it’s not humid.

Lucky you !!! Nearly a whole week off. You could try hide the visible damage and see if the shop would replace or refund you, Hope they do. Glad Henri’s getting within herself again, Very glad she’s eating. I’ve heard of many snakes losing their appetite completely after becoming gravid all the way through even up to months after the birth.

Feel sorry for Gerald, lol. Boys will be boys. LoL !!!

Anyway, Speak to you soon

- Shaun



06/05/05  07:11pm

 #363533


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  Message To: King_Doc_10   In reference to Message Id: 363282


 New PICS of female!!!

Sorry guys! I’ve been busy. Thanks for the nice compliments. Its odd, unlike other amels., her color is not fading. It is just intensifing and becoming more and more orange! I am not sure on her age but when I bought her I was told 6 months. Oh the babies are doing great. Started out with 50 pinkies and only 6 left LOL! Jess and Jen, how are the eggs doing? Once again, thanks for the compliments!
-Adam



06/06/05  12:24am

 #363651


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  Message To: Anole_keeper   In reference to Message Id: 363533


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Hi Adam,

She looks almost like a sunglow to me, if the white patches were missing. Anyway she’s beautiful! The eggs are good thanks - at least I didn’t look at them yesterday apart from through the little plastic window, as I didn’t want to disturb the temperatures again. I’ll look at them later. And my female is eating ok. She’s never had a problem in that department - in fact I find in general corns as less fussy eaters than trinkets. Our trinket snakes eat well as a rule, but can be picky when they’re not in the mood for some reason, whereas Gerald and Henrietta have never refused a mouse, ever, since we got them!

Shaun, yeah I thought about not saying what happened to the heater, but the holes are quite visible and we know the people in the reptile shop pretty well by this stage which puts me off lying! Maybe they’ll give me a discount on a new heater if I come out with it... or maybe not.

Yeah, boys will be boys! I feel sorry for Gerald too. If there were any contraceptive injection I could give Henri so I could put them back together and let them enjoy themselves, I would! But I don’t think we need any more eggs in a couple of months - especially as, as it is, I don’t quite know how we’re going to organise looking after the ones we have when we go to the States for two weeks in September! One of my friends feeds them while we’re away, with her two daughters who are 13 and 10 and love the snakes, but this time by September we may have 17 snakes which is getting beyond a joke! Unless I’ve managed to ship any by then, but it depends how quickly they settle down. They should hatch late July, so we’ll see. Mind you I think sometimes mating is a bit one sided in snakes. I’m sure she enjoyed it originally, but not when she’s feeling weak and horrible, and there’s no reasoning with a male snake!!

Jen, how is Nikita today, and the eggs!

Jessica



06/06/05  04:52am

 #363706


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  Message To: Jessica71   In reference to Message Id: 363651


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hey everyone...

eggs are good, they all still look great...the icubator seems to be working great, keeping them at a temp of 84 degrees..the humidity is good, 95%, and they are all still big and white...how long til i know for sure they are going to be ok?

as for poor nikita, i can’t get her to eat anything...i even tried pinkies, with the brains leaking out...she’s just not into it...she hardly can lift her head...i keep trying every day...she seems like she wants to, she tastes it with her tongue, and rubs her nose on it, but just won’t open her mouth...maybe her insides just aren’t ready yet...i know sometimes they just need to wait, but i’m not going to let her wait too long before i take her in to the vet....still no more sign of an ri, which is very good, but not eating will kill her too, so hopefully she works up an appetite very soon...

thanks for being around, you guys, like i’ve said beofre, you all keep me sane!!

jen
ps-my horse is morgan-quarter cross, his name is bronx, and he’s still a stallion, but he’s so calm you would never know...he’s beautiful...very handsome boy!!



06/06/05  09:39am

 #363930


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  Message To: Cornlover   In reference to Message Id: 363706


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Hi Jen,

Your horse sounds lovely! It must be great living in the country with all those animals...

Glad to hear the eggs are ok. I think in a week you should have some idea if they are ok. You could candle them after a week - I’ve decided not to with mine, because they look white and I don’t want to disturb them. If they’re going to die I think they will do so pretty quickly, will change colour in a matter of a few days I would say - although I’m no expert of course! What kind of incubator do you have? I’m interested you have it at 95% humidity - mine is a bit lower because higher than that there was so much condensation. Do you get much condensation?

I’m sorry about poor Nikita - it breaks my heart hearing about her rubbing her nose on the mouse. I don’t have any experience of this so I would be fairly quick to agree with you on the vet side of things. It’s probably that she’s worn out - it took her so long to lay them - but it’s probably best to get her checked soon in case. Was she a good eater before she became gravid? I think some snakes do go off eating after they lay.

Speak to you later,

Jessica



06/06/05  03:20pm

 #363978


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  Message To: Jessica71   In reference to Message Id: 363930


 New PICS of female!!!

hey jess...my incubator is homemade, i have a large plastic tote, insulated on the inside with styrofoam, then the eggs are in a closed tupperware container with small ventilation holes, in a mixed medium of perlite and vermiculiteat a ratio of 2 to 1...the vermiculite does not hold as much moisture as the perlite, but it lets go of it easier....so, the perlite soaks up any excess moisture from condensation, and the transfer between the perlite (which to touch feels dry) and the vermiculite is slowed so that the eggs do not get actually wet, but are kept slightly dampened....then underneath the egg container, i have a glass tank (3 gallon) filled with water, with an aquarium heater turned on high...there are also holes in the bottom of the egg container, small ones, to let in the moisture to the medium....the eggs are not wet to touch in their container, but the perlite/vermic mix can be squeezed into a ball, with no drips, all around the eggs...it seems to work...so far...we will see, though, as its a first for me...nikita, she is still not eating, but seems to be up and about more now....i hope she eats by tomorrow...

jen



06/06/05  04:21pm

 #363982


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  Message To: Cornlover   In reference to Message Id: 363978


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Jen, I have read about some females not eating until a shed after laying. This could be possible. Oh and it is important to not try to feed her everyday! Try every 3 days. I know its hard to resist but by doing it everyday, you are causing her so much stress! I’m sure everything will work out.



06/06/05  04:29pm

 #363995


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  Message To: Anole_keeper   In reference to Message Id: 363982


 New PICS of female!!!

oh, thats great news!! thanks so much adam...i will stop trying to feed her so much, and wait a couple days in between...thanks for making me calm...my own personal stress reliever!!

jen



06/06/05  04:47pm

 #364079


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  Message To: Cornlover   In reference to Message Id: 363995


 New PICS of female!!!

That’s interesting that they don’t always eat till after the first shed. It makes sense though. I am still ok to feed my female while she’s in shed though am I, Adam? She seems hungry.



06/06/05  06:38pm

 #364098


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  Message To: Jessica71   In reference to Message Id: 364079


 New PICS of female!!!

Hey all,

I am very inexperienced on this topic, but I would say yes. In my opinion, she has been through a lot lately, and I think she needs the food to regain her strength and confidence. After laying all of those eggs, she must be on the bare foundations, you need to build her up again (excuse the phrase, couldn’t think of a suitable word, lol)

Anyway, Just read the posts up until now, and yep, shame you can’t get contraceptives for snakes or give them the pill, lol.

Anyway, how are the eggs doing?

Speak to you soon.

- Shaun



06/06/05  07:04pm

 #364120


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  Message To: King_Doc_10   In reference to Message Id: 364098


 New PICS of female!!!

Ah thank you Shaun, was feeling a bit silly as I advised Jen to take Nikita to the vet and then it seems I was being over the top. I suppose I just get a bit freaked out by how unwell she seemed to have been pre lay and the fact that Jen was going to take her to the vet and then found eggs. Always get annoyed with myself when it seems there’s something I missed in my snake reading... well you cheered me up thanks!! Glad the picture thing seems to be sorted and can’t wait to see Titan!!

Also feel I should have put vermiculite AND perlite in the incubator, as Jen and Adam did, and it’s too late now unless I move them again, which I don’t really want to. Another thing I never read. The books I’ve read seem to say any substrate - moss, vermiculite, perlite is ok - not a mixture. Aarggghh... well yes the eggs look ok thanks! Cooking you a beautiful little hatchling.

Glad you’ve got a day off. Yes, pills for snakes, great idea, or even better, injection lasting 12 weeks like for humans! But it’s not to be.

Speak later and thanks for cheering me up,

Jessica



06/06/05  07:26pm

 #364132


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  Message To: Jessica71   In reference to Message Id: 364120


 New PICS of female!!!

LOL, no problem !!!

I finf that it is hard to beleive that the vet trip was canceled by laying too. That is lucky.

As for the substrate, again I am unhelpful and useless on the whole ’breeding’ topic, but I would not thinl it matters much if you have read that vermiculite is acceptable and not a mixure. Remember, in the wild, corns lay in very poor conditions without all the monitoring, spraying, etc etc. 9 out of 10 of these corns are healthy and live a long life. Not sure if that helps, but anyway...


Speak tomorrow

- Shaun



06/06/05  07:37pm
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