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Skuggi View Profile |
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Also I watch how much I feed her, and also, I stop feeding her 5 hours before bed time. Every morning there is poop in the kennel. We are about at our wits end, we do not want to have to get rid of her, but we can’t keep doing this every day. We have had her since around Feb March. Please any advice will be read. |
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| 05/22/08 10:24am |
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KrazyKelli View Profile |
Message To: Skuggi In reference to Message Id: 1743073 Advice
How large is the kennel she’s staying in? The kennel should be just big enough for the dog to turn around in. Any bigger and she’ll find a place to crap. If you feel it’s too long, then section off a part with cardboard. If this dog is a puppy, you have to expect that you’ll need to paper train her. This is part of what owning a dog is all about. If she goes on the floor, you put her in the crate for five minutes and move her directly outside. Find a specific spot in the yard for the dog to go in and go out there every four hours (or less if this is a puppy). Give the dog a command every time you go to the spot and get excited when the dog urinates or defecates there. You should also take the dog out in the 30 minutes after it eats. This is a tedious process that must be done, because the dog will never learn this on her own. If you make a commitment to taking her out every few hours, going to the same spot, and getting excited when the dog goes, she’ll eventually get the idea. However simply throwing her out on her own in the yard for who knows how long will not produce results. She doesn’t know what you want her to do. |
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| 05/22/08 12:04pm |
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Senshokukiba View Profile |
Message To: Skuggi In reference to Message Id: 1743073 Advice
Why don’t you purchase a Pee Post? They’re only about seven dollars. They’re small, yellow posts that attract a dog who wants to urinate. I’ve heard they work really well. You really need to watch your dog. If she doesn’t go potty outside and comes in, it’s pretty obvious that she’ll go inside. Keep an eye on her. Don’t let her come in until she goes to the bathroom! When you take her out to potty, keep her on a leash. Walk out there with her. Make sure she actually goes to the bathroom. Let her know that you’re in control and that she goes to the bathroom when you say. If you see her going to the bathroom in the house, yell at her. Don’t let her get away with it. When she does go potty outside, give her a treat and play with her. |
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| 05/22/08 01:10pm |
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FutureVet123 View Profile |
Message To: Senshokukiba In reference to Message Id: 1743188
Quote: If you see her going to the bathroom in the house, yell at her
I disagree with that, and I’m actually offended that you would suggest that. This dog is only a puppy, and even it’s an adult dog, this is not appropriate. The objective is not to make the dog fear you. A true dog owner can befriend the dog and take control without physical or verbal punishment. Always positive, never negative. Dog will learn through positive actions (example: treats and praise when it goes to the bathroom), rather than negative (discouraging it loudly and physically from pottying in the house). Would you scream a year-old kid from having an accident? Don’t tell me its not the same thing, because it is. Dogs deserve every ounce of the same respect we get. Dogs are members of our family, not our workers. They love unconditionally and deserve it all back, plus more. Good luck, and post pics!! -Peaches and Jeni  |
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| 05/22/08 04:45pm |
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Senshokukiba View Profile |
Message To: FutureVet123 In reference to Message Id: 1743349
Yelling at a dog, whether it’s a pup or an adult, is not cruel or disrespectful. Yelling at a dog every now and then won’t cause a dog to fear you. Be realistic. Yelling at a dog while it’s in the middle of going to the bathroom, startles it. Loud noises usually make dogs stop what they’re doing. If a dog is yelled at continuously, it might become fearful though. Are you going to tell me that clapping your hands loudly to stop the dog from peeing is wrong or disrespectful, too? Yelling at a dog has nothing to do with gaining control over a dog. It has to do with getting a dog to stop doing something. Also, I did not say she should hit the dog. Being posotive towards dogs all the time is ridiculous. It’s not right. A dog that always receives posotive training won’t be able to deal with negative situations. Being posotive with dogs all of the time can and does lead to problems with dogs later on their life. Dogs, like children, need to be yelled at every now and then. Being posotive with a dog doesn’t correct behavior. If a dog is only rewarded for good deeds, it’ll continued to piss all over the place. The dog associates going to the bathroom outside with being rewarded. Because it’s not treated "disrespectfully" though, it realizes that there’s nothing wrong with taking a crap inside the house. The only differance is that the dog doesn’t get a treat. If the dog becomes bored with the treats and praise it receives, things will get even worse. The dog may begin peeing all over the place more and more. There have been numerous studies done that show that dogs who’ve been praised and scolded make better dogs than dogs who are only treated like queens and kings. Puppies are not like babies or toddlers. Puppies have fully developed brains once they’re about six weeks of age. Children don’t. They do, however, both lack basic experience. A puppy that pees in the house is not like a toddler who’s one year old. Toddlers aren’t fully developed yet. Even if this dog were an adult, you’d still say the dog shouldn’t be yelled at. Dogs and children need to be scolded once in awhile. I’m not telling her, or you to go out and abuse your dogs. I’m saying that there’s nothing wrong with yelling a dog once in awhile. There’s nothing wrong with yelling "Stop it" at a dog. It’s perfectly harmless. |
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| 05/22/08 08:31pm |
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KrazyKelli View Profile |
Message To: Senshokukiba In reference to Message Id: 1743586 Advice
Yelling can mean many things. There’s a right way and wrong way (which Sensh just explained). I usually clap or go ’Eh!" sharply to get the dog’s attention, then redirect the dog to do the proper behavior. I also brought up putting the dog in the crate for 5 minutes. This is also punishing a dog, especially a puppy. A puppy is always enthusiastic and being stuck in the crate can be severe boredom, but it should only be done for a small bit of time (if used for punishment at all) so the dog doesn’t always think going into the crate is a bad thing. For night time in the crate, I give my dog a baby carrot - which is not only healthy, but he knows that the crate isn’t always a bad thing. Another thing you should know about yelling is that you should never use the dog’s name. This will go a long way for calling the dog to you in the future by name. If you use the dog’s name for startling it or yelling at it, it will associate the name as the wrong thing. Henceforth why I do an abrupt "Eh!" instead of calling out, "Yukito!" The loud voice should be abrupt, as a long string of yelling can only mean excitement to the dog, which can then lead to further future misunderstandings. When I do the abrupt noise, I mean it. This works for training as well. The dog has a larger chance of understanding you if you use a commanding voice instead of an every day one or questioning one. Lastly, I yell at my dog all the time. =P I have to on some occasions as he wont be able to hear me otherwise. So long as I keep the commanding voice in my yelling (to the point that I sound like I’m from the Marines) and stay calm, my dog will not think of the louder voice as threatening or scary, but as commands that the dog has to figure out and follow. In this case, yelling is good. I’ve also developed a system of hand signals and sharp whistles, but sometimes when the dog can’t see me, yelling is the best method. Not that I recommend yelling at your dog in every day house activities, but I’m just pointing out that yelling isn’t always bad. The only bad thing to really come of it is delivering excitement to your dog, and that wont happen if you remain calm while doing it. |
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| 05/22/08 09:50pm |
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