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 #1830449


Adjecyca
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 Greyhound Raceing?

umm yeah alot of people say it’s wrong and stuff. but I’ve been to a race or two when i was little and i dont see how it’s wong? the dogs weren’t being hit or anything so how is it abuse? the dogs seem to enjoy the running.. I LOVE DOGS, and if some one can explain to me how it’s abuse please do so. thank you
08/14/08  06:24am

 #1830462


Skullkeeper
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   Message To: Adjecyca   In reference to Message Id: 1830449


 Greyhound Racing?

I don’t know much about Gray hound Racing . I am sure if you Google it you will come up with the pros’s and con’s of it . I do remember seeing some thing on TV about it years ago. It was legal here in Ohio but is now illegal. Many of the puppies born were killed if they did not think that they were racing quality. I am not sue how well the actual racing dogs were treated but after they were older and unable to race they were usually mistreated and killed. I will look it up and see what I can find .There must be a good reason why it is not legal anymore .



08/14/08  07:30am

 #1830730


FutureVet123
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   Message To: Skullkeeper   In reference to Message Id: 1830462


 Greyhound Racing?

I don’t support it at all, and I NEVER will (zero, zilp chance, it’s iminent). Unlike show dogs, when they come home after a race, they don’t turn in to these cuddly, love able pets their owners let sleep in their beds. Pretty much all day, they’re training, racing, being kept in pens (ergo, they’re anti social), getting injected with steroids, training on top quality machines, etc. Is that really any life for a dog? We all know the answer to that one. So why do we continue to do it? Dogs should not be responsible for undergoing pain and loneliness just so their owners can make money on bets, and then kill them or send them off to a shelter when they retire or aren’t good enough. Since they usually retire as young adults, that sends SO many greyhounds over flooding shelters and so many more puppies being buffed up and unloved. Fortunately, there are people like several of my dad’s coworkers that are devoted to rescuing them, but I think that it is one of the most wrong things, as well as dogfighting, that you can do to your dog. If you think about it, just bully breeds and racing hounds make up a large pool of shelter dogs, and the law is seemingly oblivious to the matter (that’s why we need a presidential candidate that cares about animal rights, but it’s not like they’re going to have a debate over it, so how do we know where they stand?!). Consider that!!
-Peaches and Jeni
08/14/08  01:02pm

 #1831197


Skullkeeper
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   Message To: Adjecyca   In reference to Message Id: 1830449


 Greyhound Racing?

Go to the Humane Society of The United States web page and find the article on Gray Hound Racing . It states how it is purely for money and that thousands of dogs are breed and abused. I am 100% against it .

Honestly I am against horse racing, bull riding , bull fighting , fighting and killing animals for fur also.
08/14/08  08:03pm

 #1831209


CelticTigeress
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   Message To: Skullkeeper   In reference to Message Id: 1831197


 Greyhound Racing?

I need to add something.. I am against Horse Racing and Greyhound Racing.. these animals are bred purely for sport they are conditioned and run many of the horses I have worked with are retired racers and they have lost the mentality to be sane..all they know is run as fast as you can and dont stop.... We used to take the racers when they were to old..yup to old, they hit 3 at the max and well if they placed they are bred if they didnt well not much to them they go to auction...the problem with dog and horse racing is they focus so much on speed and endurance they dont focus on health and are actually breeding weakers animals for th4e sake of "quicker" most of these animals have congenital defects and as soon as they get hurt are put down...if a race horse breaks its front leg they put it down they dont consider making it a broodmare or a pasture pet which is cruel..front legs can heal with great care and patience and even some back leg injuries like sprains and torn ligs and the like.. but their idea breed more breed weak but quick and if its hurt shoot it

Bull Riding and Bronc riding however I am not against.... those animals are NOT treated inhumanely...at least with the broncs when they are out of the bucking bit they are often retired on ranches to become ranch horses.. Bulls are the same they are bred sure but get a glorious life of pasture they arent beat to be made mean the only thing is the flank strap used even then its a belt that goes around the flanks... these animals are praised to buck and once done they go into stalls and are well fed and cared for and actually when not in a rodeo ring some of the calmest horses you would meet...or bulls for that matter they associate the two "Oh I buck here" and "guess I should be nice now" they get the best feed and best care and are more then just a tool these animals are actually loved... and if hurt recieve good vet care and usually end up a pasture companion or go on to be ropers and barrel racers..cowboys love their horses and respect them the rodeo isnt about money so much as it is a love for the sport and tradition sure some bet mopney some want to win but the winnings arent all that great its the thrill and when the horse reaches its potential they go on to be someone elses pet.If they were good in the rodeo used to breed and put on pasture if noone has ever rodeo’d and been behind the scenes then you cant assume the worst rodeo is NOTHING like racing they arent conditioned and run on a treadmill, the broncs are stabled and fed and on pasture to roam until the event essentially just unbroke horses and bulls that are praised to buck they have it easy they arent forced on steroids and made to run and given this and given that...

one of the best cow horses I ever roe was a retired bronc... I think as far as rodeos people have the wrong idea...although I understand every event in rodeo except bullriding Im wondering who the crazy person was that went "See that bull??Watch this" its the only one that doesnt sewrve a purpose to tradition, bronc riding is the cowboy breaking, bull dogging calf roping all has to do with ranch work and cowboying...but the bull riding while fun to watch just...thats as bad as the guy going "See that animal over there Ima squeeze its t*t and drink whatever comes out...

Bull fighting where they slaughter the animal I dont agree with I actually find it barbaric and cruel...
08/14/08  08:28pm

 #1831346


KrazyKelli
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   Message To: CelticTigeress   In reference to Message Id: 1831209


 Greyhound Racing?

I’m half/half with greyhound racing. There are many rumors that aren’t true (like the injecting with steroid things, which - if caught - will get the dog and owner evicted from the racetrack). The greyhounds are not completely neglected. They are kept in pens, but are also moderately socialized, taken for walks two to three times a day, let out to roam in running yards, and before they’re set to race they’re socialized and played with as puppies.

Now in the past, every greyhound that was a loosing dog or roughly 2+ years of age (and not of breeding stock) were put down, but that is no longer the case. A few rescues started collecting greyhounds, and now there’s a whole business outside of shelters over taking retired greyhounds,fixing them, home-training them (teaching them about stairways, paper training, and getting them familiar with dogs and pets outside of their species), and homing them. Greyhound puppies that are not race quality are also homed off through these agencies and not put down immediately like, say, 10 to 20 years ago. The greyhounds, which are usually all successfully homed, have not been beaten whatsoever and normally make wonderful pets.

I wont argue the fact that injured dogs may be put down. I also find the entire gambling affair lame, as I hate gambling outside of poker - which really isn’t gambling as you use strategy to win.

But let’s be fair: there are way too many false rumors out there and the whole concept of greyhound racing has been dramatically rewritten in the past few years to the point that it’s no longer the barbaric sport it once was.

On the by, if anyone is interested in adopting a greyhound, doesn’t mind walking their dog in a mask, and doesn’t have smaller pets running around, then you can very easily get an adult or a pre-raced puppy for around 200 dollars through rescues or organizations. You can find one near you by typing in Greyhound and your local area.
08/14/08  10:48pm

 #1831543


Scruffy~n~sage
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   Message To: KrazyKelli   In reference to Message Id: 1831346


 Greyhound Racing?

The above posters said it all.

Greyhoung racing is bad. Unnatural. BAD.
Dogs are friends, not objects to place bets on.
08/15/08  05:36am

 #1831615


Skullkeeper
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   Message To: KrazyKelli   In reference to Message Id: 1831346


 Greyhound Racing?

I do not agree with every thing said but I am glad that people have educated me to some things . I have seen some sad stories about horses being breed to be larger and larger for horse racing . Then the ankles can not support the large horse . Eventually they end up lame . Now that’s sad and wrong . I did not know about the Bulls for bull riding or the horses at rodeos . I can see the need to practice roping and riding . I have changed my mind about the rodeo stuff .

I know that things are better than they use to be when it comes to Gray Hound racing , more regulated because of people complaining about the cruelty. I am still against it though. I still think its wrong .
08/15/08  08:53am

 #1831708


CelticTigeress
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   Message To: Skullkeeper   In reference to Message Id: 1831615


 Greyhound Racing?

I didnt know myself about the greyhound racing either... I keep to my horses

Skull it takes a big person to admit they didnt know...but many dont, when others watch the rodeos all they see are people on an animal trying to throw them off...they have complained the flank straps are cruel and the spurs mark them up..the spurs dont mark them and they dont hurt..they dont ’jab them’ they actually roll the spurs off the shoulders and call it ’marking’ which keeps in tradition... bulls the same way those guys have a really REALLY cozy lifestyle they work in the rodeo and go home to pasture and stalls...all rodeoing is is a tradition from the old west... One I was proud to be part of, but as I said cowboys LOVE their horses and animals...

the horse racing itsself IS horrible... it isnt just that they are breeding ’large animals’ and the weight cant be supported... they are breeding animnals for less bone denisity as well and thinner beasts but they are taking horses with some congenital defects (What I mean by congenital horses with weaker bone structure and need to clarify) and breeding, a TBs bones are horrible and many retired that DO find good homes often end up lame like you said as riding horses they hit 12 or so and BAM arthritis/tendonitis and other complications from their race days, the breeding has also created a very flighty very unpredictable breed a horse that is often calm goes ’stupid’ literally and for no reason flips out on their owner...I have seen it one to many times with people getting OTTBs I don’t trust the breed at all if it has ’good race lines’ because many of the breeders breeding to race have ruined the breed (not all but most) just like the appaloosa and most of the breeds bred for color (ie paints) when they became popular there were a lot of backyard breeders that bred strictly for color and bred unpredictable and stupid horses...yup backyard breeders for horses...and now that they have no slaughter homes most are being starved.. at any rate thats my rant on horses, but they are crossing for the best features of TB and QH... that breed now known as ’appendix’ of course unlike a dog horses can be duel registered which means you can register a paint qh cross ect ect, heh okay Im done
08/15/08  10:34am

 #1831769


DaneEliza
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   Message To: CelticTigeress   In reference to Message Id: 1831708


 Greyhound Racing?

Grey hounds love to run. It’s part of them. But the way the owners of racing dogs treat those dogs is complete animal cruelty and that I am against. It’s not cruel to race them. It’s cruel to give them a porr diet, poor living area, and then when their out of their racing abilities or loose a couple races they are either murdered or pitched like a worthless piece of crap. That is what is wrong with it. But there are grey hound clubs, where breeders and rescuers will bring their grey hounds just to run and race, because they love it and not for the win and money.



08/15/08  11:59am

 #1831867


Saucier
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   Message To: DaneEliza   In reference to Message Id: 1831769


 Greyhound Racing?

I saw something on animal planet about what happens to them once they have lost to many times or are to old to race. This one man would tie his dogs to the train tracks to kill them. I thought that was the most disgusting thing I have ever heard and the sad part it is that it isn’t the worst thing that happens to dogs.

Stupid, stupid people!!!!!!!!



08/15/08  02:06pm


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