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 #1845107


EM-JAY
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 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

so my neighbor(not for long, tho, im moving.Yay) has gotten a new puppy. i hear it whining all frikn night. the last few nights have been raining like a son of a gun, and their keeping it outside. with nowhere for it to hide from the rain. its just a puppy.
so heres my question, whats wrong with people? why do people see a cute little puppy, decide to take it home,cuz its just sooo sute, only to throw it outside all day and night?i meen it hasnt even occured to them that its too young to be left outside all the time.
i kno to some people ignorance is bliss. but to me, its just plain stupid, and ignorant!



08/28/08  02:24pm

 #1845172


DaneEliza
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  Message To: EM-JAY   In reference to Message Id: 1845107


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

Just to have a dog, some people rent property also and aren’t aloud to have a dog in the house, but they love dogs so they’ll go out and buy a puppy and put it outside so that they are able to have it. I’m sure some people have good reasons for, it’s not all bad.

I don’t agree with dogs being outside, but it’s the owners preferance....you know.



08/28/08  03:48pm

 #1845226


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  Message To: DaneEliza   In reference to Message Id: 1845172


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

i know it is a personal choice to me it is cruel i would`nt consider buying any animal unless i could give it all the love and attention it deserves we have 2 big dogs 1 boxer and 1 bull masstiff amongst other pets and both dogs live indoors with us they have plenty of walks and a big garden to play in and they both sleep with us in the bedroom. i would`nt have it any other way they are part of the family



08/28/08  04:37pm

 #1845519


DaneEliza
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  Message To: Tuppence03   In reference to Message Id: 1845226


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

Technically it’s not cruel as long as the dog has the proper enclosure, the proper shelter, and is fed and watered properly. I’ve seen outside dogs that are very happy with where they are, and would prefer to be there then in the house, some dogs just don’t like the indoors as well as the outdoors.



08/28/08  08:21pm

 #1845548


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  Message To: DaneEliza   In reference to Message Id: 1845519


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

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with nowhere for it to hide from the rain


If I’m correct, the puppy is exposed to the elements with no shelter.
Also, my dog, Peaches, lived for 13 years a happy, healthy, playful dog. Most people would agree (including me), that a 17 pound dog should be inside, but it’s not like putting a 3 pound Yorkie out there, ya know? And Peaches wouldn’t have it any other way. Because of a heart murmur (and old age) that was discovered about 3 months before she died, she was forced to be inside with minimal exercise so she could rest and not be stressed. She HATED it. You could see it in her eyes; she wanted to be outside. She wanted to run, to play, to bark, to pee and poop on free will wherever and whenever she wanted, to mingle with other dogs, and to feel the breeze. She would dart out the door if you opened it to come inside. Some dogs just like the outside better.
-Peaches and Jeni



08/28/08  08:40pm

 #1845564


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  Message To: FutureVet123   In reference to Message Id: 1845548


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

Sounds like ignorance. If people can’t give an animal the proper care and attention, they really shouldn’t get one. If the dog has no adequate shelter (and a tree isn’t shelter, as some people seem to think for some reason, lol) you can actually call in and report them to the humane society.



08/28/08  08:53pm

 #1845620


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  Message To: EM-JAY   In reference to Message Id: 1845107


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

i agree that its not right to leave a dog outside with no shelter but i dont agree with them not staying outside i wish i owned my home so i could put my dog outside she LOVES being outdoors for digging and what not and she tears the crap out of my house even with a 2 hour walk every day some dogs are just outside dogs but every animal needs a place to find shelter i would call my local dog warden if i were you and they should make the people get the puppy a dog house or if the noise is making you crazy call the police and let them know the dog is making a disturbance then they will either have to get rid of the poor thing or bring it in at night im guessing the pup is lonely or something because my dog wines like crazy but just thought id pop in lol



08/28/08  09:27pm

 #1845959


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  Message To: EM-JAY   In reference to Message Id: 1845107


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

Report them to the Humane Society . The dog probably does not have a license or shots . It needs a shelter from the elements . The Humane Society will come out and cheek but you may need to call several times . Keep calling until they come out . Tell them you want to remain anonymous .



08/29/08  10:00am

 #1846193


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  Message To: Skullkeeper   In reference to Message Id: 1845959


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

well I can see both sides to this coin... I have 2 outside Pit Bulls. (they have great dog houses though).. and a Lab that prefers inside(so she has free range of my yard and my barn) and I just got a Rottie pup. He does stay in the house b/c he is only 7 1/2 weeks old now.... BUT I still put him on a runner outside when I’m home.. and only allow him minimal run of the house when he is inside... like someone said... some dogs are NOT meant to be inside. However, this does not mean that I shouldn’t own dogs b/c I don’t want them to destroy my house... and trust me... puppies will do it every time. So, I crate train my animals... they know when its bed time... that’s where to go. NOW that being said... the neighbor should provide shelter for this animal. and YES... you can call the authorities... and they will give them 48 hours to provide such shelter.. THEN they take the puppy to the pound.. and MAYBE it will be adopted... and MAYBE not. If not, it’s put to sleep. All because someone thought he shouldn’t get rained on. So, what would I do? I’d go buy a cheap lil house and give it to them as a present.. but hey that’s me... or I’d take a tarp over there and hang it up. With all the kill shelters today... I would suggest picking your battles... should we chance a puppy being put to sleep because he wasn’t adopted... all because someone didn’t like the way the owners were treating it? less than perfect life...vs..death... I’ll let you decide.



08/29/08  02:38pm

 #1846220


EM-JAY
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  Message To: SusanC   In reference to Message Id: 1846193


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

first off, we dont have kill shelters.
second, i think that some of u are missing the point. i think its fine to have an outside dog. dogs like it outside.(well some prefer to be inside,ie my dog,inles im outside with her).
but the point is, this isnt a dog. its a puppy. only a couple months old. and my neighbors are druggies, so no, it doesnt have its shots. iehter way, a couple month old puppy, has no business being outide all day and night. we have concrete backyards.
and im not gunna buy it a dog house,becuz wen its not a puppy, they’ll probably get rid of it, like most people do.and this housing allows pets.so there isno legal reason for it being outside. the owners r just A holes.



08/29/08  03:31pm

 #1847006


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  Message To: EM-JAY   In reference to Message Id: 1846220


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

Well, a lot of people have their dogs outside because they need dogs to protect their house and cars and stuff. I had a friend (he’s a to me now) who had like 3 german shepherds to guard his dads cars because there were like 20 cars there, and his dogs were viscous if they didn’t know you, and pretty nice if they did.

My uncles dog is special in a lot of ways, but he likes to be outside all the time. He rarely will come inside before 3 or 4 in the morning because he likes it out there.

People throw their dogs outside if they have been misbehaving or did something bad like pooped on the carpet or something.

There’s a million reasons for a dog to be locked outside and if you think about it, it’s a lot better than being trapped in a cage with 30 other puppies in a dim room.

It sounds like in these circumstances that these people are just keeping their puppy out for no apparent reason but who knows...

I’m not saying there’s always a good reason, just that you can’t assume things.



08/30/08  12:19pm

 #1849245


EM-JAY
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  Message To: Freecellgame1   In reference to Message Id: 1847006


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

thats true, as ive stated above, theres nuthing wrng with outside dogs. if u provide their needs for them, ei: shelter,food.
these people r not. and the other night, i heard them throw it outside. it yelped pretty loud. poor thing
their too stoned, to realize its a puppy. a holes.lol
im gunna call the spca, they wont do anything, but at least i did all i could



09/02/08  12:34am

 #1849412


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  Message To: EM-JAY   In reference to Message Id: 1849245


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

I think you need to educate yourself on marijuana, because it doesn’t make you irresponsible at all... These people must just be buttmunch. So go read some books on medical and recreational marijuana and how it DOESN’T make you an irresponsible like these people are. I see where you’re coming from though, because I used to have neighbors with this HUGE Italian Mastiff, like 26" at 9 months old, and it would run around chasing cats off it’s leash. No matter how many times we talked to them, they wouldn’t do anything about it because they didn’t care. I mean it was a cool dog but it was dangerous. I saw that thing knock their 4 year old down just messing around, and it made this huge gash on my back from me playing with it. I mean it’s not really the same circumstances but it’s the same because my neighbors used to be irresponsible like that... now we have new neighbors though.



09/02/08  10:17am

 #1849556


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  Message To: Freecellgame1   In reference to Message Id: 1849412


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

i agree that certainly a dog or any animal shouldn’t be left out with nothing. But unless this puppy has shelter, food and water (given as needed) you should report abuse.



09/02/08  02:55pm

 #1849575


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  Message To: EM-JAY   In reference to Message Id: 1845107


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

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09/02/08  03:39pm

 #1850444


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  Message To: No_glory   In reference to Message Id: 1849575


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

Now that does change the whole perspection. No puppy let alone any dog belongs on a concrete surface 24/7, it cause joint problems and enhanses hip displasia. The proper shelter for a dog outside in my area is a sturdy dog house, kennel, the kennel should be lined with hay or dead grass, and a tarp over the kennel. The kennel should be at least 5 times the size of the dog and should be tied down into the ground. There should be fresh water and food provided for the dog at all times, especially in the hot weather. Puppies can live outside as well, they just need the proper shelter.Especially if you planning to make the dog an outside dog from the beggining, you don’t want the puppy getting used to house life, if you want them outside. just depends on the person really.



09/03/08  01:57pm

 #1850600


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  Message To: Freecellgame1   In reference to Message Id: 1849412


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

freecellgame1 -wow, obviuosly u smoke pot. and i know about dope.and wat it does, and doesnt do. also people have different reactions to it.maybe it makes u responsable, and other not so much. i have ac uple friends, that act like idiots, wen they smoke up,(and olny wen they smoke up), and others that act normal. dont assume everyone has the same reaction to a drug.. iether way i didnt say they were pot heads, im pretty sure i didnt specify the drug they were using... so please dont assume, im ignorant of things im talking about.



09/03/08  04:45pm

 #1850837


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  Message To: EM-JAY   In reference to Message Id: 1850600


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

i’m sending you a message instead of posting it here because it’s me ranting about medical and industrial marijuana blah blah boring i know but you need some edumacation so i thought i would give it a shot and give you some good google keywords...

all i will say is that assuming i "obviously smoke pot" and then telling me to not assume things of you is a huge hypocrisy...



09/03/08  08:38pm

 #1851256


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  Message To: Freecellgame1   In reference to Message Id: 1850837


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

Good Lord whether he does or doesnt smoke pot (Free) does not matter in this topic, don’t assume I dont see how arguing over marijuana has anything to do with the topic at hand ~shakes head~ marijuana is a drug and it does effect people in different ways, some because they smoke it tend to act stupid others it tends to mellow out, regardless thats all I have to say about that

We kept our wolves outside, they had an enclosed doghouse with straw in it, and lived happy lives as such, My goats live in an outside enclosure with straw in the Houses...they are not on cement and do fine, My other four ie 2 danes a boxer and a pitamute are inside and outside dogs, the boxer and pit mix are outside during the day with the horses come in at night and danes stay in during the day and go potty when they need to... I have seen both sides and outside dogs are alright so long as they are given the proper shelter for protection from the elements and have clean water and are fed...

Some people are stupid and simply get the dog to say they have one or get the dog because they want one but like someone mentioned cant keep them inside... I dont agree with chaining a dog either not a puppy I believe the yard should be able to support the animal and be secured to keep your dog from getting out and other dogs from getting in...chaining should be a final resort when all other methods have failed ie they keep getting out and you have tried EVERYTHING.. that doesnt mean calling it quits after the dog gets out several times.. our wolves used to dig out a LOT so we started digging the trenches about 2 feet deep lay the wire BEND it and lay a cinder block every 4 or so feet then rebury.... when they tried jumping the fence we lined the top with electrical wire let them feel it once then shut the wire off (once was enough) none of our dogs have ever lived chained we have always adapted so that they could be secure..Im not saying anything negative towards anyone that may or may not chain their dogs, Im simply speaking my opinion. at any rate arguing over ’weed’ is a good way to get this post taken down, keep it in the PMs this IS a family forum yadda yadda and bad enough mys@ce gets a bad rap because of something a kid sees on it, we dont need that for RZ



09/04/08  01:36pm

 #1851778


Freecellgame1
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  Message To: CelticTigeress   In reference to Message Id: 1851256


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

im sorry. i did send him a private message instead of posting it here just so you know...

i completely agree with everything you said though, and i know a lot of people who get dogs just for the hell of it. chihuahuas are popular "oo theyre so cute i want one!" accessory dogs because they stay small for their whole life, but people generally don’t have problems with them that i’ve seen because they don’t need that much space to be content =P



09/04/08  11:02pm

 #1851841


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  Message To: Freecellgame1   In reference to Message Id: 1851778


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

yea my friend has a 9 year old dog that has lived there for its whole life(never has been on a walk) and they got a 3 year old malti-poo they spent 600 bucks on.they act like nothings wrong with that. stupid people, it makes me aggravated.



09/05/08  01:24am

 #1853348


EM-JAY
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  Message To: Freecellgame1   In reference to Message Id: 1850837


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

ok, this is the last time, im gunna say this, cuz it has nuthin to do with my post.
i never said they were POT heads. i said they were stoned. there are multiple drugs u get stoned off of. also, i kno plenty about all drugs.
and for u to assume it has the same effect on all people, makes u kind of one sided, and a little bit of a hpocrit urself, as u tell me and others to "open their eyes".
all drugs/liquer does different things to different people. plain and simple. nothing is black and white.
and im sorry if u dont agree with me. maybe u need to educate urself on drugs and alcohol effect people as individuals,not as a group.


anyways, off that, stupid subject.
i dont liv next to those people anymore, so i dont have to deal wih it.wen my friend gets back to town, shes gunna see if their treating it the same, if so, shes gunna call the spca, and see if theyll do anything about it.




09/06/08  11:51pm

 #1854988


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  Message To: FutureVet123   In reference to Message Id: 1845548


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

I have to say that when we got our dog Mickey(half Arctic wolf half chow chow) we tried to keep him inside but he hated it. So he became an outside dog. He lived outside until he was 13(he just died within the last few months). Anytime he would be brought inside he would sit by the door and shake. If you made any quick movements he would lay down on the floor. And the strange thing was the dog was never hit in his entire life. Not once. Hollered at a few times but NEVER hit. So I never understood why he was so afraid of being inside. He just liked it outside.

Now I am not saying that is the case with this dog but not all owners that have outside dogs are neglectful.

Randi



09/08/08  10:00pm

 #1855049


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  Message To: Barker   In reference to Message Id: 1854988


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

yea I know how some dogs are like that.



09/08/08  10:49pm

 #1855067


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  Message To: Amyers   In reference to Message Id: 1855049


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

Quote:

ok, this is the last time, im gunna say this, cuz it has nuthin to do with my post.
i never said they were POT heads. i said they were stoned. there are multiple drugs u get stoned off of. also, i kno plenty about all drugs.
and for u to assume it has the same effect on all people, makes u kind of one sided, and a little bit of a hpocrit urself, as u tell me and others to "open their eyes".
all drugs/liquer does different things to different people. plain and simple. nothing is black and white.
and im sorry if u dont agree with me. maybe u need to educate urself on drugs and alcohol effect people as individuals,not as a group.


anyways, off that, stupid subject.
i dont liv next to those people anymore, so i dont have to deal wih it.wen my friend gets back to town, shes gunna see if their treating it the same, if so, shes gunna call the spca, and see if theyll do anything about it.



wow lol seriously... you must not have even read my message because im pretty sure i explained that THC affects all brains differently because of brain chemistry, and the chemical balance of it blah blah im pretty sure i included that, and usually when someone says "stoned" it implies that someone is getting stoned from marijuana.

back to the post though, i think that a dog being thrown outside is wrong but there isn’t anything you can do about it because everyone has their excuses.



09/08/08  11:14pm

 #1855193


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  Message To: Freecellgame1   In reference to Message Id: 1855067


 Why do people get dogs just to throw them outside??

This forum is NOT ABOUT POT. Drop it, most of you are ADULTS here.

Anyway, an interesting point was brought up that reporting the owners and getting the dog removed from the property only to be put to sleep would be terrible. I don’t think so.

First of all, a little puppy is extremely unlikely to be put to sleep. Everyone wants puppies.

Second of all, allowing these people to continue to own a dog they can’t care for is irresponsible. A neighbor who watches a dog suffer year after year without doing anything about it is just as guilty of cruelty as the animal’s owner, in my opinion. It takes a neighborhood to raise a dog, and I am grateful for my wonderful neighbors every day. We all look out for the neighborhood animals and have several times had to report the people who live on the next street and used to let their rottweilers run loose. These people need to be educated about how to care for a dog properly, or the cycle of abuse will continue and many more animals will suffer in the future. Some people just need to have it shoved in their face that not providing adequate care for their animals is often a felony offense and can even lead to jail time.

That puppy will be MUCH happier, even if (let’s pretend) it does end up being put to sleep, if his last days are spent sheltered, fed, loved, and cared for and his ending is peaceful and pain free. Leaving it to suffer without shelter being kicked around every day is not being kind, that is selfish. Knowing he is technically still alive is not knowing he is well. Giving the owners a cheap old dog house will not change their behavior. They need to be talked to, educated, and worked with to provide the dog with a good life, or else the dog needs to be removed from the situation. "Kill" shelters are not out to euthanize animals, they are out to protect them and make sure that they don’t suffer. Yes, this means some have to be put to sleep, but it also means that those animals will never suffer or be homeless again, that they will be fed and sheltered prior to euthanasia, and that they will at least have a shot at a second chance and a good life.

Shelter overpopulation is NOT the fault of the shelters!! It is the fault of people like this neighbor who get animals without any thought to the responsibility involved in providing them with happy, healthy lives.

Imagine the painless process of euthanasia, and imagine the ways dogs die slowly and painfully outside instead. Would it really be better for the dog to grow up never leaving one yard, with no shelter and no vet care, until it dies of some untreated illness, gets hit by a car, is beaten, etc. etc. compared to a peaceful ending with a full belly in a warm room at a shelter? I don’t think so.

It’s quality, not quantity. A dog doesn’t have a concept of how long he has lived, will live, or should live. All a dog understands is whether or not his basic daily needs are being met, whether or not he is fed, sheltered, and loved. It is a human characteristic to fear death.



09/09/08  02:45am


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