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 #1856463


AmberEyes
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 What dog would be best?

i need help choosing a dog to get, I’m really not to picky as to the breed, but i was thinking st Bernard) i have a ton of space (5 aches fenced) and i work by my self quit a bit (i want a dog that will bark and hopefully scare anything that gets closer than comfort)i get a lot of kids around my house some very young and i don’t want that to be a problem ether ( its never good when your dog eats your Sunday school class) i have a Big dog door and I’m willing to pay for the required training classes but i only do them if i am the one training training the dog under the guide of a pro trainer, any questions please just ask I’m not great with explaining so sorry about that. any help would be great.



09/10/08  09:23pm

 #1856522


Amyers
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  Message To: AmberEyes   In reference to Message Id: 1856463


 What dog would be best?

maybe a boxer or doberman Pinscher?



09/10/08  11:06pm

 #1856538


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  Message To: Amyers   In reference to Message Id: 1856522


 What dog would be best?

Check a shelter..........lots of dogs needing a good home there.



09/10/08  11:26pm

 #1856988


AmberEyes
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  Message To: Turtlemom   In reference to Message Id: 1856538


 What dog would be best?

i will check shelters long before i go to a breeder. but its nice to know about what to look for.



09/11/08  05:42pm

 #1857021


Freecellgame1
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  Message To: AmberEyes   In reference to Message Id: 1856988


 What dog would be best?

i say forget the breed and get a nice dog from a shelter. they will always be better than a purebred IMO.

if you really really really want a pure bred dog i would suggest a border collie or aussie shepherd because in my experience they do really well with large yards. ive also heard that greyhounds make good pets but ive never met one. i know they would do well with a large yard because its pretty much a necessity for them.

but yeah if you’re going to a shelter, try getting a border collie or aussie shepherd mix because they’re really nice dogs if raised right. aussies seem to be more mellow than border collies, but they’re both fun. you may have an issue with herding though so they need to be trained out of that. both breeds (again in my experience) tend to herd things such as cars... bikes... skateboards... kids... etc haha

good luck



09/11/08  06:06pm

 #1857266


KrazyKelli
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  Message To: AmberEyes   In reference to Message Id: 1856463


 What dog would be best?

An aussie or border is a high energy level dog. They’ll drive someone crazy if not given extensive exercise and constant chores to do. They also jump, which isn’t very good for little kids. Another reason to be wary is because they are herding dogs, and will therefore nip at heels or grab a running kid due to sheer instinct and drive. It’s impossible to train the ’herd’ out of a ’herding’ dog, very hard to train an excited herding dog not to herd, and generally something owners need to warn young kids about on walks if interacted with. These are all reasons why this breed (or mix thereof) ends up in shelters. The owners get the dog and don’t understand the breed, then end up with this crazy creature that constantly demands attention, gets frustrated easily, and herd anything they can find.

Greyhounds are nice, social animals (it’s better to have 2 or more) that tend to be melo’ed out if purchased from an adoption agency (ie, past racer). Inside the house they are fine couch potatoes that will more than likely lay around. They have to be monitored outside at all times because, if they are free, they will run, and you will never be able to catch them. If they escape, they are in great danger. If walked they need to have a head harness/ open muzzle on. Diet is a little hard to work with.


Personally, I say go with the St Bernard. If it’s what you’re thinking of, then it’s the way to go. They are nice, big, pleasant dogs that can put up with a lot - especially from children. It may not be the right sort of animal for hotter climates, but is definitely a nice breed to have if you’re looking for gentle interaction. The dog will need a long walk per day and would even enjoy small hikes if you’re up to that sort of thing. If you or someone you are with are in danger, the dog will generally stand in the way. I don’t know about barking, though. (Mind you, St Bernards are also herders. I wont dispute this fact. But they aren’t nearly as high of a level of raw energy as aussies and borders.) What else... Bernards are a very large dog, and generally live around 10 years. Due to their size, it’s essential to get one you either know was trained, or train one from an early age. ~ which is common sense, any dog should be trained. But large breed dogs pretty much have to be, regardless of who owns it.

If you don’t want a pure bred dog like the Bernard, which would be generally hard to find in shelters, but want a shelter dog regardless, tell the people at the shelter your living arrangements and what you’re looking for. I’m sure they’ll try their best to put you up with a dog that is best for that situation. Though there’s a good chance, since you’ll be dealing with kids, that they’ll either recommend a small dog, a retriever, a lab, or a mix of those.



09/11/08  09:35pm

 #1857488


AmberEyes
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  Message To: KrazyKelli   In reference to Message Id: 1857266


 What dog would be best?

well i’m not sure a hearding dog would be bad if she’d herd the kids... j/k i’ll look at the shelters for a dog but i have a hard time with recues because if they flinch with loud sounds or gun shots, but i know how to introduce a pup to that, (i’m not looking for a hunting dog but i do use a gun quite a bit and i dont want to fire it and the dog to take off.) thats why i was looking more for pups than dogs. and i dont care about purebreds or anything like that but i know that some breeds or breed mixes will do better with what i need.



09/12/08  03:08am

 #1857952


XxxShoc+Collarxxx
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  Message To: AmberEyes   In reference to Message Id: 1857488


 What dog would be best?

like the previous posts said i would pick a dog from the shelter. That’s where I got mine, she is as sweet as can be, and an excellent gaurd dog. I think shelter dogs bond more quickly with there owners because of there neglect earlier then when they finally learn to trust you, they become protective of you, but also friendly towards others. (my opinion)



09/12/08  08:04pm

 #1859097


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  Message To: XxxShoc+Collarxxx   In reference to Message Id: 1857952


 What dog would be best?

With all those acres and kids around I say Basset Hound, or two. They are so lovable and friendly, but have a big deep bark that sounds like a big mastiff. Mine are so awesome, couldnt ask for a better dog around kids, but they have a pact mentality and I believe would go after an intruder. This is Snowman when he was a baby, ears drug the floor!

And this is(left to right) Red Hot Lucifer R.I.P., with Scarlet and her sister Jeezabelle, they are my spoiled furry kids! I also have Black Jack, but no pic of him right now.

If someone we dont know comes up the walkway, they let us know before they ever reach the front door, and they dont bark all the time, but we know it if there is even a stray cat on the fence, and they went nuts one day wanting to eat the air conditioner repair man on the roof, I have seen the door to door salesmen turn and leave when they heard the booming bark come from behind the door!



09/14/08  01:01am

 #1859187


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  Message To: Scaly   In reference to Message Id: 1859097


 What dog would be best?

well there is a website called dog finder and you can find a doog that way



09/14/08  08:12am

 #1859269


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09/14/08  11:41am

 #1859304


Barker
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  Message To: Swimmerbby13   In reference to Message Id: 1859187


 What dog would be best?

A rott or rott mix maybe a good idea as well. They are protective and gentle to those it knows as well as kids(from my experiences with them). Here are some pics over time of our male rott mix and some with our daughter.

3 months


1 year


With our daughter when she was just a few months old


and just a few days ago



He looks viscous doesn’t he!!

Randi



09/14/08  12:41pm

 #1859381


Kam88
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  Message To: Barker   In reference to Message Id: 1859304


 What dog would be best?

Beautiful pup Randi and I agree. Rotts would be my pick if I had children. My grandfather had a rott mix and she was an absolute doll especially with the young grandchildren.



09/14/08  02:34pm

 #1860804


Dragongirl6
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  Message To: Kam88   In reference to Message Id: 1859381


 What dog would be best?

Rotties, Bassets, Blood Hounds, Standard Poodles, St. Bernards, Newfoundlands, most Shepherds, Mastiffs, etc. would all make good choices. Most of these breeds (with the exception of many poodles/mixes) are fairly laid back (especially Newfies and Mastiffs) and would do extremely well with children, but would also alert you to visitors on the property, etc. (as most dogs usually do by nature).

You can find mixes of these breeds in shelters. Where are you located? I might be able to help.



09/16/08  12:50am

 #1862332


AmberEyes
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  Message To: Dragongirl6   In reference to Message Id: 1860804


 What dog would be best?

i am in colorado...lost in the mountains LOL i had a BIG black lab (he was an amazing dog) he not only gaurded me and such he would help with the work if he could (he would find firewood and drag it to the house or drag me to it so icould drag it back and if i were spliting wood he would pile the split peaces up) i dont expect that out of another dog and it suprised me when he started that, but dogs dont live forever.



anyway thats why i was looking into another dog. what should i look for in a mix?



09/18/08  12:33am

 #1862360


Dragongirl6
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  Message To: AmberEyes   In reference to Message Id: 1862332


 What dog would be best?

The best thing to do is check petfinder.com and search for shelter dogs nearest to you. If you see one that interests you, head to that shelter and just meet the dogs. It’s sort of hard to explain, but you’ll know when you’ve found the right one.

You could also consider fostering dogs until you foster one that you really like and adopt him/her. You’d be saving lives and making sure you find the right pet at the same time.

I just did the search for Denver, but you can change it to the city nearest to you.
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Ok I’ll stop now I promise lol. Just search petfinder until you find one that interests you. Hopefully some of these are remotely near you. You can also search by breed, so if you like Pits (though it looks like they are banned in Denver), search for them.

Good luck!



09/18/08  01:27am

 #1863190


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  Message To: Dragongirl6   In reference to Message Id: 1862360


 What dog would be best?

Think of the facts:

1. How much time you have to spend with a dog, some breeds require lots of attention, where as others dont.

2. How much space, of course some require more than the average room.

3. what are you looking for in a dog?

I usually go for mongrals, as theyre really good dogs to have. I have had many dogs since i was only 1 week old to now 16 years of age. Most of my dogs ahve been stray mongrals, or just mixed bred dogs. I right now have a 13 year old male Lurcher x greyhound x mongral. Ive had him since i was 2 years old.

We recently wanted a pedigree, for a change. So we looked around and eventually we got a Rough Collie (lassie dog). He is 9 weeks, we named him Jericho.

Rough collies are fantastic family dogs, they have one of the best Tempermants, they are very good with kids and other animals. They are rarely nasty, and if brought as pups, they will grow up to be protective over their owner and their other loved ones (companions, other house-mates such as dogs and cats.)

We had a rough collie when we was younger named Flint. he was a fantastic dog, and very protective, easy to train and very obediant.

Fun dogs all round.

ITs really what you want.

If you are adopting, then thats great! but if you have children, or children visiting your home and other animals then make sure the dog is friendly for kids and other animals around.



09/19/08  09:45am

 #1865691


AmberEyes
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  Message To: RepticTay   In reference to Message Id: 1863190


 What dog would be best?

thanks for the help dragongirl


1 i live in a small town (well out side of one) and most people dont care about the pup in the stores, so he will be spending most of the time with me i work at my parents pet store and she will probably go to work with me too. so i’d say at lease 22 hours a day

2. i have 5 aches, its got a wire fence (my last dog just stayed in the fence but i know i will have to train a pup to... how would i do that anyway...anyway i have a good sized dog door leading to my sunroom (it would fit most BIG dogs) and i have a 30 foot chain but i’d rather not teather a dog

3. i work out in the middle of a wooded area and a feild area i’m looking for a dog that will warn be (barking or such) of bears and pumas as there really not that uncommon, but not try to attack them (i’v seen a few bears and with a barking dog they didnt bother me they just went on there own bussness as did i) but i dont want a curious bear to come see me because i dont know he was there. even a pup will bark at a bear usualy and i can i be prepaired if i need to be. but i dont worry near as much about the bears as i do about the crazy dememted people that live around my house.


i dont mind getting a mutt or purebreed but i wanted at least a little guide as to what i was looking for
a friend of mine breeds stbernards and said she would get me a pair of female pups if i wanted ( they always have females that noone wants for some reason) thats why i was asking about them. but i am willing to buy/ adopt/ save/ foster/ whatever another breed.



09/22/08  11:50am

 #1865752


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  Message To: AmberEyes   In reference to Message Id: 1865691


 What dog would be best?

If you have a breeder friend that is willing to give you puppies of a dog you preferably want (as you started the thread kinda over the St Bernard), then seize the day. The breeder would be able to tell you everything and a half of what you want to know, and since it’s a friend, you have access to help if you need it immediately.

I don’t know about a wire fence. You’d have to ask your breeder friend if the St Bernard can be trained irreversibly to stay in it. I know for a fact that the breed will do everything it can to stay with the herd, and will not wander off from it. So if you create and train the dog to a herd atmosphere (even if it’s a herd of family or children) it should theoretically not wander too far. I would not recommend letting it wander aimlessly during the night, however. You could construct a cage or pen-area for the dog, since you have enough room for it. That may fix the problem over all.

It looks like you’re seriously set on the one breed. Quit being so uncertain, it looks like your living arrangements have all about destined you for this dog/ these dogs. You have the breeder friend who’s willing to help. I know that everyone and their mother on this forum will tell you instinctively to go grab a shelter dog, and that’s a mentality that will probably never change, but it’s completely up to you on what you want to do.



09/22/08  02:35pm

 #1867681


Firebellyboy
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  Message To: KrazyKelli   In reference to Message Id: 1865752


 What dog would be best?

I have a yellow labrador retriever, she is not very big, but loves to run around. She is quite obediant, and very cudely (sorry) Ku-del-EE, especially around kids.



09/24/08  07:56pm

 #1868459


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  Message To: Firebellyboy   In reference to Message Id: 1867681


 What dog would be best?

I would say maybe a german shepherd or maybe even a shih-tzu i have two shih-tzu’s and their great i also have a german shepherd they are very pertective when ever we walk her and my sister runs a head she starts freaking out and starts to whine and also at my aunts house i have a dog named king and he’s a rottie / border collie and he’s great with her baby he’s also VERY playful! lol!



09/25/08  10:42pm

 #1889514


Sw1c
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  Message To: Mk17rules   In reference to Message Id: 1868459


 What dog would be best?

Link try this site. can sort dog breeds by commonality of how wellw ith kids, strangers, other animals etc and descriptions about each. you might be suprised by what you choose. wife chose pitbull before we read name id goen through list by good with kids and ranked as some the best(always relies on what around etc. and how treated) but a good source of info.



10/28/08  09:57pm

 #1889537


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  Message To: Sw1c   In reference to Message Id: 1889514


 What dog would be best?

I would recommend an APBT as sw1c did, but if I am correct and it hasn’t been reversed, I believe they are banned in Denver. (I saw that in one of the posts so I’m assuming thats where you are.) St. Bernards are awesome with kids, NEED the large space you have, but are iffy on guarding. It depends on the qualities the breeder has sought in them, but they, just as ANY breed, have the loyalty and instinct to protect their "pack" and territory.
I do recommend a Rottweiler, I’ve been studying them HARDCORE for a while. Briefly, my hubby wanted one, I wanted my research done since I’m only extremely experienced with APBTs and just had a more general knowledge on Rotties since I only experienced a few hands on. Great all around dogs though (from my few personal exp.) and what I am seeing with our pup. As far as my research goes, they would definitely suit your purpose and fit your requirements.
I don’t recommend first timers of certain breeds like APBTs/Am. Staffs, Staffy Bulls, GSDs, Rottweilers, Dobermans, Akitas, Sarloos Wolf Hounds, NAIDs (rare ones, but common to me), Mastiffs, Rhodesians, and Boxers to obtain from shelters unless a full and reliable background is available from the shelter from the surrendering owners or extremely detailed seizure report. Most of those breeds when in the shelter, they are there for a reason and YOU need to know that reason no matter what it is before bringing it home and running the possibility of it going bad, especially with a decent group of children around. Unless you get the rare chance to have it as a pup from a shelter, I would avoid those adult breeds from the shelter unless you are going to be there to monitor and train for a minimum of 10-12 hours a day. This is my professional opinion coming from being a Rescue for 10+ years, but what you do is your business.
If you feel secure in procuring the pup from your friend, by all means do so. It is a great opportunity as said by Dragongirl (I believe). You know the breeder well and chances are you know the sire and dam well also so you can have an idea temperment wise of what to expect from the pup when it is older.
Good Luck to you and make the choice that best suits YOU, no one else. Keep posted!
-Brandy



10/28/08  10:27pm

 #1889576


Sw1c
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  Message To: BrandyLynn1182   In reference to Message Id: 1889537


 What dog would be best?

i didnt recommend pitbull because hard to find non inbred ones lately lol. but mentioned because wife was the usualy person who went by the rep animals had. but when she saw the proper dog and the info she liked them. i recommend the site. although apbt are awsome dogs and once my knees fixed im getting one for sure lol. good luck with finding a breed that will suite you and your needs:D



10/28/08  11:27pm

 #1889676


BrandyLynn1182
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  Message To: Sw1c   In reference to Message Id: 1889576


 What dog would be best?

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i didnt recommend pitbull because hard to find non inbred ones lately lol



Really? Where do you live? I’ve never heard such things before.

-Brandy



10/29/08  08:16am

 #1895923


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  Message To: BrandyLynn1182   In reference to Message Id: 1889676


 What dog would be best?

Quote:

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i didnt recommend pitbull because hard to find non inbred ones lately lol

Really? Where do you live? I’ve never heard such things before.

-Brandy



First, pit bulls aren’t usually a good guard dog (I’ve rescued many many pit bulls the past 5+ years, very few could be considered a guard dog.) Next, whoever said it’s hard to find "non inbred ones" really doesn’t know what they’re talking about. No offense. There are literally thousands upon thousands of pit bulls in irresponsible homes, who aren’t sterilized, in turn creating even more unwanted puppies that end up in shelters. There’s absolutely no shortage of loving, stable, "non inbred" pit bulls in this country. I still wouldn’t recommend one as a guard dog though. My pit bull would sooner lick you all over, then show you where I keep the money and good jewelry before he would react aggressively to an intruder. Which is why I have an American Bulldog, she gets the protection job done.



11/09/08  09:15pm

 #1896132


BrandyLynn1182
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  Message To: SugarFox03   In reference to Message Id: 1895923


 What dog would be best?

Sugarfox, Sw1c made the inbred comment...thats why I questioned it too.
In the 15 years I have been dealing with Pits, no they’re not very good guard dogs, but they are very loyal and will defend their "pack" be it a mix of humans and themselves or humans and pets/livestock, from predators. They will protect their humans from intruders and the sort, but as SugarFox made reference to it, they do tend to gladly help thieves find the "goods" and even help you carry it out to the getaway vehicle as long as their human isn’t home to protect and the thief stays away from their food source and sleeping area (thier absolute territory)...lol.
I have a 4.5 month old Rottweiler pup, and let me tell you...she is already displaying natural territorial guard qualities with strangers. I don’t encourage it in her, but I don’t discourage it either, it is a natural quality that comes with her breed, just like SugarFox’s Am. Bull. So I would once again recommend you definitely consider a Rott or Am. Bull and they are both, from my few experiences, research, and speaking with longtime owners/breeders are good with children when brought up with them and the children, as well as the dog, have been taught boundaries. That goes for pretty much any breed in my book though.
-Brandy



11/10/08  11:23am


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