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#659496
Animals-Are-My-Life
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Kangaroo 
Hi,
I live in new jersey.I was wondering where can i buy one?Do they have to be in a hot place?
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02/20/06 08:50pm
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#659503
Animals-Are-My-Life
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Message To: Animals-Are-My-Life In reference to Message Id: 659496
Kangaroo
I ether want a kangaroo or a wallaby where can i get one?How do I care for one?
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02/20/06 08:52pm
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#659589
Jord
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Message To: Animals-Are-My-Life In reference to Message Id: 659503
Kangaroo
I honestly believe that a kangaroo would make an impractical pet, not to mention hard to fence in (wallabies need 6 foot high fence so I shudder at what you’d need to fence in a kangaroo) in addition I have yet to hear of a kangaroo breeder. A wallaby would be a much better pet. There are breeders in many places so look around on the Internet and I’m sure you’ll be able to find a breeder close by. You do realize these animals make poor full time house pets right? I have been told they will graze on your carpet in absence of grass and I imagine that wouldn’t make very many people pleased. They can be destructive, although house trainable, and you’ll have to wallaby proof your house. Along with that you will have to carry the joey after you receive it from the breeder and you’ll have to feed it frequently and keep it warm and safe. For food they can be feed a macropod diet (Happy Hopper) as well as fruits and veggies. Your fence will need to be 6 foot high and the area must be at least be 50 x 50 ft. Over all they seem like demanding but interesting pets so I would make sure you can provide all this before considering buying one. Bennett’s wallabies seem to be the most commonly kept and bred. Let us know how your search for your joey goes should you decide to get one.
Jordan
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02/20/06 09:22pm
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#659819
Draco1215
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Message To: Jord In reference to Message Id: 659589
Kangaroo
I don’t think that they’re legal in New Jersey. Doesn’t New Jeresey have some really strict laws about exotics?
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02/20/06 11:31pm
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#659839
Draco1215
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Message To: Draco1215 In reference to Message Id: 659819
Kangaroo
I just checked the usda website and it looks like they’re legal as long as they were born inside the state otherwise you need an import permit. But it’s usually not a big deal.
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02/20/06 11:45pm
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#661877
Las696s
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Message To: Draco1215 In reference to Message Id: 659839
Kangaroo
I breed roos and lots of other exotics. Kangaroos need about 2 acres apeice and they don’t do well alone. So basically it would be really impractical to have an animal that gets 6 feet tall and moody in your house. You can not litter/house train them. They eat a lot. They have to have heated barns in the winter. And dependant upon your state you probably have to have a USDA permits and state permits to have one (which is about the biggest twice annual pain of my life). Same goes for the wallabys. Much smaller, but same senerio. I agree with Jord.
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02/22/06 09:39am
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#663232
Jord
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 661877
Kangaroo
Wow cool, I guess I know if a roo breeder now. Pleased to meet you las696s. Very cute little joey, is that a roo or wally joey? (wild guess on my part is kangaroo). Just a quick question if you don’t mind- I know that males are best neutered for behavioral problems and whatnot but is it necessary to spay the females? Just curious since I know health problem can arise in dogs which aren’t spayed but of course marsupials are a completely different story. Well either way, cute little bugger in the pic, I’m sure he’s a handful- he looks like he’s got attitude lol.
Jordan
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02/22/06 11:53pm
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#663525
Las696s
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Message To: Jord In reference to Message Id: 663232
Kangaroo
Bo is a red kangaroo. I would never nueter/spay a roo or wallaby. If they are raised properly they will remain realatively tame, but they are wild animals and we only keep them in the house when they are bottle fed and very young. They all have different personalities, but that is no reason to rob them of their sex organs. Plus, they are far to valuable to remove genitals unless there is some sort of problem like a torn testical or injury of that sort. And Yes "Bo" is a roo with a tude.
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02/23/06 10:38am
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#663926
Draco1215
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 663525
Kangaroo
HI Bo is really cute. Sorry to inturupt a post , But you said that you raise several exotics. I’m starting my own exotics business. What do you raise? I’ve been looking into expanding into a new species and was just looking for ideas. Thanks, Aaron
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02/23/06 05:06pm
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#663928
Draco1215
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 663525
Kangaroo
HI Bo is really cute. Sorry to inturupt a post , But you said that you raise several exotics. I’m starting my own exotics business. What do you raise? I’ve been looking into expanding into a new species and was just looking for ideas. Thanks, Aaron
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02/23/06 05:07pm
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#664081
Jord
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 663525
Kangaroo
I suppose I shouldn’t believe everything I read on the internet. This one site read
Quote: If your wallaby is going to be strictly a pet, then have him neutered at least several weeks prior to the breeder sending him to you. The cost of the neutering will almost certainly add to the price of the joey. Spaying is not necessary with female wallabies.
Not calling you a liar, actually your explanation for keeping the animals intact made more sense than that breeder’s reason for neutering. Thankyou for clarifying that, I’m glad I’m learning this now- I plan to get a Bennett’s wallaby once I’m all through school. Well that’s about it, thanks for answering my question. Take care.
Jordan
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02/23/06 06:12pm
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#664132
Las696s
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Message To: Jord In reference to Message Id: 664081
Kangaroo
Good luck. And remember that they are wild animals and not pets. So they need to be treated as such. Wallabies in the US will run you several thousand dollars so start saving. Las
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02/23/06 06:30pm
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#664317
Jord
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 664132
Kangaroo
Thankyou, I will most defiantly keep in mind to treat them as wild animals. I keep other exotics currently so I know exactly what you mean by not setting expectations like what one would expect from a domestic animal. I imagine I better start saving for even more than you predicted since I live in Canadian it can only get more expensive. Thanks for all your help Las.
Jordan
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02/23/06 07:55pm
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#664553
Las696s
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Message To: Jord In reference to Message Id: 664317
Kangaroo
Canada, oye, I’d say you better start saving for a nice heated barn also. what other exotics do you have?
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02/23/06 09:32pm
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#666372
Jord
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 664553
Kangaroo
Yeah I’m from the frozen north, not the best place to live if you’re into exotics as we’re a little short on anything that isn’t considered ’normal’ pet wise. Along with the fact that it can get pretty cold at certain times of the year so everything has to be kept indoors for at least part of the years- or if they’re larger a heated barn as you mentioned. At the current moment I’m lucky enough to keep a pair of sugar gliders, a pygmy hedgehog and a large variety of lizards. I used to have Gambian pouched rats as well. Lizards have been the main thing I have kept and just recently I started getting into smaller exotic mammals. When I finish up school and get my own place I’d like to look into a muntjac deer and a wallaby for exotics. I think I may move somewhere warmer if possible so it would be easier to have these little guys as pets. So at the moment I don’t keep anything too amazing or on the large side, the sugar gliders are enough to keep my hands full. I only breed the lizards at the moment but I will hopefully be starting gliders soon if everything goes well. You mentioned you had other exotics besides your roos and your wallies, just out of curiosity- what else do you keep/breed?
Jordan
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02/25/06 11:16am
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#667048
Las696s
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Message To: Jord In reference to Message Id: 666372
Kangaroo
I’m trying to get a trio of muntjac right now. Not any available ANYWHERE! Plus, they are really getting pricey. The market for them 10 years ago was nothing and everybody had a few. Now not so much. We have antelope: Nilgai, Blackbuck, Eland, Scimitar-horned Oryx, Beisa Orxy, Auodads. Elk, Bison, Wildebeast, Nubian Ibex, Peacocks, Mini horses and donkeys, Patagonian Cavies, Coatimundis, Pygmy Goats, dromedary camels, red kangaroos, prairie dogs, burmese pythons, iguanas, hedgehogs, pot-bellied pigs, grant’s zebra, ellipsis waterbuck, emu, ostrich, flemish giant rabbits, axis deer, japanese sika deer, formosa sika deer, 3 varieties of fallow deer, white-tailed deer, and I’m sure I’m forgetting some. lol. ITS A ZOO OUT HERE! Las
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02/25/06 07:59pm
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#667812
Draco1215
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 667048
Kangaroo
Hi I saw that you have coatis. Do you ever have any babies available? I’ve been thinking about getting a female. Thanks.
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02/26/06 10:55am
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#668270
Jord
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 667048
Kangaroo
Hmmm that’s too bad I was looking forward to getting a muntjac but it doesn’t sound as if there will be any left for less than half a million by the time I can get one lol. haha Las you truly do have a zoo by the sounds of it!!! I just have a few questions if you don’t mind me asking- what are Patagonian Cavies like as pets? I recently was offered one for what sounds like a fair price should I want it, it’s a young female but I have yet to speak to any owners so I’m a little wary. I have the space time and money but I want to make sure I know what I’m getting into before I take on anymore pets. Also, dromedary camels and zebra are my most ultimate dream animals (another future dream which if I have the space would hopefully come true). What are they like to keep? Is it true that zebra can’t be ridden? Are camels more demanding animals to keep than say... horses? Sorry I know this is a lot of questions but you’re the first person I’ve met with this wide array of animals. I have most defiantly decided to move south to the southern US (it’s far far too cold here in Canada) and should I be given the opportunity I would like to own some of these animals. Just wanted the personal imput from a experienced owner if that’s not asking too much. lol I thought I had my hands full with a few gliders and lizards and then I see your list... wow. I am jealous and stunned beyond words. I hope to be as lucky some day.
Jordan
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02/26/06 04:25pm
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#668420
Las696s
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Message To: Draco1215 In reference to Message Id: 667812
Kangaroo
Yeah I have two from may 05. One bottle raised male and one mother raised female. Coatis are not pets they are just like a raccoon and can be very dangerous.
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02/26/06 06:15pm
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#668437
Las696s
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Message To: Jord In reference to Message Id: 668270
Kangaroo
I bottle raise all of our cavies in my kitchen and I think that the make great pets...if you like a big rat that will get up to 20 pounds. They are in the guinea pig family and vocalize by making squeaks and whistles. I love em...my first bottle baby "Goliath" shocked me when he was born b/c he weighed in a 1.5 pounds. That is twice the size of a normal baby; hence his clever name. They can not be litter trained but he was pretty well house-broken before he moved outside to the breeder pen. They are truely monogomous and will keep their mate for life. I would reccommend a same sex pair for bonding b/c they don’t do well alone. I sold all my girls from this past litter for $300.00 each and that is a fair and standard price for a tame bottle baby. They bond well with humans, but I would highly reccommend a young bottle baby b/c the mother raised ones are just plain wild.
Camels are a pain because they are sooooo big and clumsy. Ours break out of their pen constantly and run people down. They love to play with "toys" (i.e. old tires and basketballs, ect) VERY EXPENSIVE like tens of thousands of dollars.
Zebras are not friendly and I have never seen a live one being ridden. They are as strong as a horse and can kick the back doors off a horse trailer. I did know someone who lost a finger from a zebra bite! Just like any animal they need food water a warm barn and a little love...And really strong fences. Let me know if you need more info on cavy recipies and stuff b/c I have developed a good system that keeps them very healthy.
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02/26/06 06:29pm
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#668856
Draco1215
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 668437
Kangaroo
Hi Thanks for the reply. I know how coatis can be. I have two white nosed and a mountain (blonde). What kind is this female? My mountain is about 8 mos. old and I was thinking about getting a female to make a pair. Any information about her would be appreciated. Thanks.
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02/26/06 11:00pm
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#669171
Las696s
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Message To: Draco1215 In reference to Message Id: 668856
Kangaroo
She is a white-nosed that has been raised in he petting zoo, but is not tame. All intact and good and healthy. She currently lives outdoors with her brother who was bottle-fed and they play all day. They do have a heated barn and get along fine together, but I will warn you that for 95% of the year coatis are solitary animals in adulthood and should be housed separately. They are solitary in the wild. Our adult male is still off-exhibit because he was badly scratched and bitten by the female during breeding.
While-nosed Coati Female 01/06
White-nosed Coati, female born 05/05
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02/27/06 09:53am
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#669390
Kristy74115
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 669171
Kangaroo
Hi Las,
You are becoming a celebrity! I have a couple questions too if you don’t mind, and if its non of my business just tell me to mind my own. I was just wondering if all these pets were for your own personal enjoyment, or do you let peope come and see them? Also how many people do you have to help you care for them all and how many hours a day do you spend just caring for the animals? How in the world do you have time for anything else lol.
It has always been a dream of mine to have a bunch of animals when I get older and just spend my days caring for all my animals and enjoying them. Sounds like you have it made!!
We are really enjoying your stories and pictures so keep it up!
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02/27/06 02:06pm
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#669798
Jord
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 668437
Kangaroo
Quote: if you like a big rat that will get up to 20 pounds
Oddly enough the sound of a 20 pound rat sounds intriguing, although I’m sure many people would beg to differ on that point (especially since many aren’t overly fond of the regular sized ones lol of course cavies are much cuter- like a stilt legged rabbit). I will see if I can find a companion for the little female I’ll be getting. She was bottle raised by the owner and is about 6 months old. I was offered $325 for her and I assume the extra is because of their rarity in Canada. I have yet to go see her so I will determine then whether she’s tame enough to make a good pet. If I could get a few cavy recipes from you that would be great and would help a ton.
Thanks for letting me know about the camels and zebras. haha I had to laugh when you mentioned yours will run people down, although I’m sure it’s less funny when you have a huge camel barreling down towards you. I reconsidered the idea of having a now zebra after the whole “bit someone’s finger off” and “kick down horse trailer doors” but I still think a camel would be a neat pet. Are they really has badly tempered as people claim them to be?
Well, thanks for answering all my questions. Great pics btw. Take care and have a good week.
Jordan
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02/27/06 05:33pm
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#670498
Las696s
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Message To: Kristy74115 In reference to Message Id: 669390
Kangaroo
I’m the curator, but its a family owned business and private zoo that has been open to the public since 1999. It started as a private collection and now has evolved into public entertainment and education. I do all of the bottle feeding and employee crap (we have 2 other zookeepers) with the zoo end of it, but two of my four brothers also work here part-time and my mother and father also do a lot of the work. It is not easy to care for 400 animals alone, so a lot of help is used. I’m starting an internship program for high school students this year and coordinating a bunch of volunteers. I work at least 3 hours every day (seven days a week), but it comes out to 30-40 hours a week on the clock.
Jordan- Yeah, zebras are really aggressive...don’t always believe what a breeder tells you; they are just trying to secure the sale. Camels need to be worked with a lot and we never halter broke ours and now they are 600 pound 8 foot tall toddlers with loud bellows. They were both bottle fed, but that just means that now they aren’t afraid of anyone. They try and fight with the tractor and break in with our roos and chase them silly. I would never go into the camel pen and expect to come out alive at this rate. "Moses" is 20 months and likes to kick people and sit on them. He’s the goof-ball in the pic.
Pat. Cavies are in the guinea pig family and need vitamin C in their diets otherwise they will develop scurvy. I have developed a good recipe based on the AZA requirements:
4 parts alfalfa pellets
2 part guinea pig pellets (we use Hartz b/c no dyes)(vit C in it)
2 part wild bird seed
2 parts corn chops (these are corn pieces, not whole corn)
1 part raisins
-we make up enough to last a whole month or two, if they
start to get chunky just cut out the corn chops (especially in
the summer time)
They also like dehydrated fruits, peanuts (unsalted of course), flake alfalfa, apples, pears, you name it and they will probably eat it. Stay away from broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage and other gassy foods because they will upset your cavies tummy. I also have a good formula recipe if you breed them.
Cavy
One of my prairie dogs (who is severely overweight) wanted to say hi.
Have a great night, LAS
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02/27/06 10:47pm
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#670673
Devilsangel69
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 670498
Kangaroo
Hello las, I have a question for you too. Are prairie dogs good companions? (I hate using the word "pet" so I say companion) I heard that they are really social and you need at least two, same sex if you dont want breeding, but they will still bond with you. Is this true? thank you
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02/28/06 01:21am
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#670886
Las696s
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Message To: Devilsangel69 In reference to Message Id: 670673
Kangaroo
They make great pets, we have 3, but they are banned in the US and there are steep fines for trade, transport, buy, and selling. Durring the winter months they go off feed and social behaviour changes b/c of hibernation. It is better to have two, but same sex or not it is practically impossible to breed pdogs in captivity (I heard only a 1% success rate), b/c they have to dig deep tunnels with chambers to reproduce. I’m currently building a tank that will sit 7 feet tall and 3x3 feet on wide and deep so that they can make burrows and have babies, hopefully. Our three are 6(F), 7(M), and 8(f) years old! So it will be like trying to get the retirement home to start having babies, but its worth a try. They only way to get a pdog is if you live in a different country where they have a big pet pop and aren’t banned. Sorry and good luck.
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02/28/06 09:34am
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#670951
Devilsangel69
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 670886
Kangaroo
I already read the post that they are banned here. But I was just wondering because I am fascinated by all animals, and would like to (try to) learn all I can about anything. Thank you though for your help.
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02/28/06 10:48am
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#673692
Jord
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 670498
Kangaroo
Thanks a ton for everything Las, I’ll be sure to use the recipe. You’ve been an awesome help. I’ll be sure to put up pictures if I end up getting the pat. cavy. I’m going to see her on the friday of next week so if all goes well I’ll have a new addition to the family running around the house. Sydney and Meka say hi-
as does Gem
Jordan
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03/01/06 10:58pm
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#708441
Queenb
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Message To: Las696s In reference to Message Id: 664132
 Kangaroo
hi there .i been watching whats going on. and you said you have have patigionion cavies?? will you have any babies soon i would like to purchase one. im not new to exotics . i have had animals my whole life from tiggers to everyhting . i live in toledo ohio . please get back with me thanks janet 
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03/25/06 01:53pm
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