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Terralove
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 Eastern Fence Lizard - Something seems wrong

Problem; It seems like there might be something wrong with my Eastern fence lizard..

Well.. up until three or four days ago, he seemed perfectly normal.
I have a heat lamp for him, it came in the tank I bought, which they said was good for both fish and lizards, and he seems to enjoy that and get more active.
I take a wet cloth and scatter droplets around for him every day.
I feed him small crickets and little isopods/rollie pollies, which he enjoys immensely, that I catch myself. I believe in a more natural environment, and I don’t trust the source of my pet store’s crickets, or what they feed them.
I’m not quite sure what gender he is, but I say he because it’s easier - it’s still a juvenile, so I can’t really tell yet.
I’ve had him about a month, from about a day or so after his group hatched - the cats were eating them all, and I’d had lizards before, so I decided to save him.

I noticed that a few days ago, though he wasn’t as active, he barely held his head up, and he wasn’t eating.. his eyes are closed all the time, and he won’t hold on to anything, he just slides right off. He’s getting really thin.

A few things that might have caused this -

- It was after I changed cloths to water him. Maybe there could have been some chemical in the water?
- He fell off of the log I have in there, must have caught himself oddly or gotten frightened, because his tail came off. Do these grow back like Anoles, green anoles, and the types of skinks that I’ve had before? Could the energy of doing that cause it?
- I noticed that he was over-eating tiny bugs that were in his cage. We took him out and put him in a smaller enclosure with no bugs for the day (ten hours, maybe?), because he was extremely bloated and he needed some time. Could the changing environment or stress have done this?
- He’s had mostly a variety of things to eat, small crickets, grasshoppers, moths, isopods, and other small bugs which came in with some of the wood-chips we had in the cage. (This was fine with the five-lined skink I had for a few months before.. I changed the bedding, of course.) But could the over-eating have done it?

Please.. I don’t want the poor thing to die. My lizards usually don’t.. but I grew up with salamanders, anoles, and skinks, and I only moved four years ago, so I’m not quite sure about this species of lizard.



09/27/09  07:40pm

 #2077397


Gsb92606
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  Message To: Terralove   In reference to Message Id: 2077355


 Eastern Fence Lizard - Something seems wrong

They regrow their tails, so don’t worry. The small bugs crawling around your tank may ber mites. I don’t think its good for them to eat mites. The limpness is a mystery. As I am pretty new myself, I cannot answer all questions. Jd_, Jared T, XE King, or Greatballzofire may know better than I do.



09/27/09  09:05pm

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Terralove
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  Message To: Gsb92606   In reference to Message Id: 2077397


 Eastern Fence Lizard - Something seems wrong

I have a new problem - He’s spazzing. Like, whenever I touch him he flips around or thrashes.



09/27/09  10:51pm

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  Message To: Terralove   In reference to Message Id: 2077455


 Eastern Fence Lizard - Something seems wrong

Okay... mine is not tame so he sometimes does that. Maybe you scared him in some way?



09/28/09  12:14pm

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Terralove
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  Message To: Gsb92606   In reference to Message Id: 2077665


 Eastern Fence Lizard - Something seems wrong

No. It might have been something in his genes, there’s barely any fence lizards around my house, because all of the cats eat them, so he might have been a result of inbreeding. Being less than two, possibly even one, month old, I can understand the fatality rate. Most baby lizards die, and so did mine. Though I think a few crickets or isopods escaped from him and hid, because when I found him he looked like he’d been dead a week, just dried skin and a skeleton(possibly eaten?), but, I guess I saved him as long as I could. The thing that upsets me is I had already gotten attached, and I’ve never had a lizard die in my care from anything other than some problem from old age. Are skinks, anoles, green anoles, and other reptiles and amphibians more strong than Eastern Fence Lizards? It seems like they get a lot of problems.

Would a Bearded Dragon or something of the like be better? I guess I’d buy new store supplies, and take a bit better care of it. My boyfriend got deeply attached to it, and I feel really bad. I want to make it up. I feel like I could have prevented it, somehow, but I did everything the way I usually do..



09/28/09  04:54pm

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Jared T
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  Message To: Terralove   In reference to Message Id: 2077809


 Eastern Fence Lizard - Something seems wrong

Seizures is a possibility to dehydration. Put him in a bowl with enough water so that his vent will be submerged.

Mites externally are easy to get rid of. Mites internally can indeed be fatal; but yet can also be taken care of. What did the mites look like that came with the bedding?

Impaction is another story. The stiffness could be a factor of being unable to pass meals. and if he looks bloated, stop feeding him for a couple days. Soaking him in luke warm water won’t only help hydration, but will also help digestion.

Improper lighting is also a miss key. UVA/UVB linear bulb is a must. And also a UVA basking light dome fixture. The dome basking area helps them greatly to pass their foods while they digest. If you don’t have both lights, I would suggest getting them.

Impaction of the bedding is also a problem. Make sure you’re not using sand or something similar. In my opinion repti-bark is the best that I’ve ever used.



09/28/09  06:32pm

 #2079683


Alliebear123
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  Message To: Terralove   In reference to Message Id: 2077355


 Eastern Fence Lizard - Something seems wrong

When ur lizard lost its tail it loses some balance and cant really figure out how to move fast and then will get used to it and will go back to its normal self, plus it does grow back its tail. I am an expert at these lizards, so if u need any more help ask me, thanks!!!

Hoped that helped u!! =)
Allie



10/02/09  11:06pm

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  Message To: Alliebear123   In reference to Message Id: 2079683


 Eastern Fence Lizard - Something seems wrong

OK your lizard is in stress, this is what you have to do:
Get a big, clean tank, than have sand, like playground sand, thats the best kind. Make sure you cheack his eyes if you use sand it may get into the eyes. Next Put like two crickets in there, one other thing you can use to feed him that will make him very fat is mealworms. These worms are like candy and if he eats some thats good. How big is he, or she, if shes at lease two inches long she or he will eat them, get th small ones, at your pet store. Next keep the wash cloth in there, they like the feeling of it. If he or she is getting worse, just tell me. PLus to make him less hiper, hold him every three hours, but school and sleep, they need alot of attention. I have a male and two females, all calm because i did that. To tell if its a girl or boy:
Males: Dark blue belly, sometimes blue on throut, When babies cant really tell, bright colors on back
Females: Light belly, dark colors on back like brown and black
Males are usually are more hiper.



11/18/09  10:06pm


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