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 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

I left off from part 1 at the end of July. The second half of the year was not as productive as the first half, although I picked up 2 lifers and saw some cool herps nonetheless. My apologies if you have already seen these pictures.

August 9th I had planned to meet up with Dan Riley and his family for some herping. The place we were going held the northernmost population of Butler’s Garters Snakes, and, the southernmost population of Mink Frogs in Ontario. It also held Redbelly Snakes, a species I had yet to see this year.

We did find some Redbelly Snakes under boards in the morning, but no Butlers garters. We drove around a bit and discovered a nice marsh.



Lots of Mink Frogs were everywhere. Many people confuse Green Frogs with them, but once you see a good number of bonafide Mink Frogs, you’ll never mistake the species again.
Even though me missed our main target, I picked up a lifer and finally found some Redbellys.



Two weekends later I got a few days off work and sped down to the north shore of Lake Erie to camp and relax. I did meet up with Dan and Dav for an afternoon. We had moderate success, flipping a number of Five-lined Skinks,



Fowler’s Toads, Northern Ribbon Snakes,



Wolf Spiders,



and more skinks.



as well as the usual suspects.
No hognose snakes, oh well it will have to wait till next year.

September 2 was warm and sunny. Dav and another herper, Wayne, picked me up to go investigate a suspected population of the Queen Snake, rare in Ontario.
Here is Dav photographing a Northern Water Snake.



We were ready to go home, when Dav found a queen snake in the backwaters of the river. Success!



The next week I headed north on my annual fishing trip. Nice scenery there.



I found a large Nerodia eating a Bullfrog.





The next weekend, we woke up nice and early and headed north to a spot that Dav and Dan had a lot of success with. We were hoping it was not too late in the year to find saugas in the upland rocky areas.
The habitat was nice this time of year.



The conditions were pretty dry, but with a little work, we managed to turn up 16 species. A lone Redbelly Snake was turned up.



We found 3 Northern Ringnecks, a lifer for me :) .



On day two, a couple Smooth Green Snakes turned up as well.



No saugas, but a productive weekend for sure.

September 29 Dan, Dav and I checked an area that has black rat snakes, but none were turned up. Dan and Dav had each found them on seperate trips in the summer. We did find a number of Spotted Salamanders, Blue-spotted Salamanders,



Northern Water Snakes, and Garters.



We will have to return in the spring to find Black Rat Snakes.

One spot in particularly, a 10 minute drive from my house, has been particularly productive this fall. I have seen hundreds of snakes, and countless salamanders and frogs there.

I met up with Dan and family on September 15. The weather was cool and windy, but I hoped we would be able to flip a few salamanders.
His brother flipped a beautiful Spotted Salamander on a dry hillside.



We found some more spotties, some Blue-spotted Salamanders, a Ribbon Snake, and the usuals before heading to a road to try and find some birds.
Along the way I spotted a little Gray Tree Frog clinging to the underside of a branch. First of the year for Dan.



September 30 I got my first two Fourtoed Salamanders of the year.



These flowers were growing in one small area.



Occasionally I find newts here, this one was a nice looking adult.



October 8 was probably my most productive day of the year. 51 snakes were found, including a number of Northern Brown Snakes.



This one was consuming an earthworm in the open.



I was fortunate to find an area that had two pairs of snakes mating, including these Northern Ribbon Snakes.



Wood frogs are common in the area, and I found a couple hopping through the leaves.



I turned up a number of these Spring Peepers hopping in the woods.



Some habitat from that day. This road cut is really good for 4 species of snakes.



And a Redback Salamander a few weeks later.



October 22 was our last warm day of the year. We headed down to some marshes near Lake Erie, hoping to turn up a few of the species that inhabit that area. We found lots of garters, Leopard Frogs, and Map Turtles.



Dan and I after the capture:



October 27 I tried once more at the spot 10 minutes from my house. Even though it was cold (about 50 degrees, 10 Celsius), rainy, and windy, a couple ribbon snakes were on the crawl. I did not expect to find anything that day.



Here is a beautiful Red Wood Frog that I almost stepped on.



The last few trees with leaves still on:



A bunch of peepers were hopping around and calling.



I flipped a number of Spotted Salamanders also. A good end to a great year!



[b][u]Ontario Totals 2007:[/b][/u]
(note: tadpoles and other larval form not included in totals)
Lifers in italics.

[i]Snakes[/i]
270 Eastern Garter Snake
64 Northern Brown Snake
42 Northern Ribbon Snake
29 Lake Erie Water Snake
24 Northern Water Snake
6 Eastern Fox Snake
4 Northern Redbelly Snake
3 [i]Smooth Green Snake[/i]
3 Blue Racer
3 [i]Northern Ringneck Snake[/i]
2 [i]Queen Snake[/i]
2 Eastern Milk Snake

[i]Turtles[/i]
236 Midland Painted Turtle
53 Common Snapping Turtle
12 Common Map Turtle
3 [i]Eastern Spiny Softshell[/i]
1 [i]Blanding’s Turtle[/i]
1 [i]Red-eared Slider[/i]

[i]Lizards[/i]
35 Five-lined Skink

[i]Frogs and Toads[/i]
1005 Green Frog
577 Northern Leopard Frog
155 American Toad
109 [i]Mink Frog[/i]
104 Bull Frog
60 Wood Frog
45 Spring Peeper
29 Grey Tree Frog
8 Fowler’s Toad
5 Western Chorus Frog
1 [i]Pickerel Frog[/i]

[i]Salamanders and Newts[/i]
182 Blue-Spotted Salamander
151 Eastern Redback Salamander (37 leadback phase)
51 Spotted Salamander
6 Jefferson’s Salamander *possibly hybrids
3 Smallmouth Salamander *possible hybrids
3 Eastern Newt
2 Fourtoed Salamander


It was good to meet all these herpers/birders this year, many who helped me find target animals or showed me their spots: Dav N., Dan R., Dan’s parents, Andrew R., Wayne K., Warren, Jeff H., David D., Megan R., James B., Sarah Jane S., Stew S., Steve M., and many others.



11/04/07  01:05pm

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TIMSNAKR
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  Message To: Joshsnakeman   In reference to Message Id: 1500831


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

WOW

Really Impressed! Especially that you managed to keep count of all those frogs! Great Pics

Tim



11/04/07  01:50pm

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Whitie
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  Message To: Joshsnakeman   In reference to Message Id: 1500831


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

Just beautiful!!!
I love how you do all the work and we get to enjoy the pics!! lol

Once again Josh, GREAT JOB!!!



11/04/07  02:56pm

 #1501762


Joshsnakeman
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  Message To: Whitie   In reference to Message Id: 1500974


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

Thanks! I appreciate your comments!
Tim we got to do some herping next year.
Any species you want to find in particular?



11/04/07  11:56pm

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  Message To: Joshsnakeman   In reference to Message Id: 1500831


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

u went to the places in those pics and didnt fish at all?!



11/05/07  09:59pm

 #1503153


Joshsnakeman
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  Message To: Gecko boy12   In reference to Message Id: 1502988


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

Well we did a bit of fishing, though not with rods. While turtling, my buddy Warren and I managed to catch some carp with our hands.
Here is me releasing one:



And Warren crept up to a freshwater drum and caught it with his bare hands.



11/05/07  11:43pm

 #1504408


Snakes guy
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  Message To: Joshsnakeman   In reference to Message Id: 1503153


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

nobody else totaled those huh?
2712 reptiles and amphibians total lol
Nice catch



11/06/07  10:17pm

 #1504518


Joshsnakeman
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  Message To: Snakes guy   In reference to Message Id: 1504408


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

According to my spreadsheet, 3312 (including the 50 or so herps I have found after that post was made).



11/06/07  11:34pm

 #1505403


TIMSNAKR
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  Message To: Joshsnakeman   In reference to Message Id: 1504518


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

According to my charts, around 100 this year! So measly compared to your numbers. lol

Honestly I have kind of given up herping for now and only do it when I have a chance to find something new.

Tim



11/07/07  06:54pm

 #1506447


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  Message To: Joshsnakeman   In reference to Message Id: 1500831


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

Josh, your photography is getting to be the best on the forum mate. Stunning images with great composition. Lovely job, and great herps too. I really need to visit the States... *sigh*



11/08/07  04:18pm

 #1506460


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  Message To: Yellowhammer   In reference to Message Id: 1506447


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

Not the states lol, Canada!

Tim



11/08/07  04:28pm

 #1507520


Joshsnakeman
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  Message To: TIMSNAKR   In reference to Message Id: 1506460


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

Yeah if it was the states, the post would be about 10 times longer.lol We dont really have that much diversity, but in spots its not unreasonable to find 15-20 species or 50 individual snakes in an afternoon.



11/09/07  03:34pm

 #1513333


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  Message To: Joshsnakeman   In reference to Message Id: 1507520


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

Excellent posts and pictures. I’m curious though on how you keep track of what you see while in the field do you carry around a spiral or what do you use? For instance, with frogs and toads I pretty much don’t even try to keep count anymore because I see so many and I never know if i’m seeing the same one multiple times. I’ve been thinking lately about taking better notes and have been looking into ways to track sightings by GPS for even better data and trying to get an idea on other options.



11/13/07  11:41pm

 #1514362


TIMSNAKR
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  Message To: Saleenadam   In reference to Message Id: 1513333


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

Where did you find the red-eared slider in Ontario?

Tim



11/14/07  10:13pm

 #1514508


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  Message To: TIMSNAKR   In reference to Message Id: 1514362


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

I’ve seen red-eared sliders in Point Pelee National Park along with in the Lake Erie in Leamington.



11/15/07  12:15am

 #1516368


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  Message To: Saleenadam   In reference to Message Id: 1514508


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

Tim, in my local river (you should know which one I mean).

Quote:

Excellent posts and pictures. I’m curious though on how you keep track of what you see while in the field do you carry around a spiral or what do you use? For instance, with frogs and toads I pretty much don’t even try to keep count anymore because I see so many and I never know if i’m seeing the same one multiple times. I’ve been thinking lately about taking better notes and have been looking into ways to track sightings by GPS for even better data and trying to get an idea on other options.



With most days, I keep track in my head. If we start finding a lot of stuff, then I write it down in my mini notebook I carry around in my pack. Some days it can be hard to count frogs, for instance I know I might have seen between 60 and 80 green frogs, so I usually go halfway with 70.

When I get home I plug it into a spreadsheet with nicely calculated the totals for me. So if I want to know what percent of the frogs I saw in July were leopard frogs, it is easy to find.

GPS can be an awesome way to keep track of where you found what, and also to find again those herping spots in the middle of nowhere. It can be time consuming to GPS everything, I know one herper who GPSs almost everything he finds, and it takes about 5 minutes to do.

Josh



11/16/07  07:09pm

 #1517272


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  Message To: Joshsnakeman   In reference to Message Id: 1516368


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

Some amazing photographs!



11/17/07  04:06pm

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  Message To: Cpx_20o5   In reference to Message Id: 1517272


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

HEY! thats not fair he lives in Canada every1 knows thats the animal state your a fraud. lol that was a total joke i enjoyed your picks happy new year.



12/06/07  11:30am

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  Message To: MOZIAK66   In reference to Message Id: 1537578


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

even know its not a state lol.



12/06/07  11:31am

 #1537581


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  Message To: MOZIAK66   In reference to Message Id: 1537578


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

even though its not a state lol.



12/06/07  11:31am

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  Message To: MOZIAK66   In reference to Message Id: 1537581


 A chronology of herping in Ontario: part 2

hi I’m only 13 but I wanna go to Ontario with my sister and look for reptiles and salamanders to!!! Is there a lot of venomous snakes? can u name a few?



03/27/08  11:44pm


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