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Bubba13 View Profile |
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| 07/20/07 09:07pm |
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Adzscott View Profile |
Message To: Bubba13 In reference to Message Id: 1367782 Legal or illegal
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| 07/29/07 04:08am |
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Savannah monitor 4 View Profile |
Message To: Adzscott In reference to Message Id: 1378975
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| 08/05/07 05:30pm |
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Reedie View Profile |
Message To: Savannah monitor 4 In reference to Message Id: 1389811 Legal or illegal
Quote: (next to Savannah Monitors, of course).
Actually, savs don’t make near as great "pets" as frillies. Savs aren’t our pets they are our captives, contrary to common belief they cannot be "tamed" and shouldn’t be handled on a regular basis. -Reed
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| 08/05/07 05:55pm |
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Savannah monitor 4 View Profile |
Message To: Reedie In reference to Message Id: 1389850
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| 08/05/07 08:40pm |
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Pink801 View Profile |
Message To: Savannah monitor 4 In reference to Message Id: 1390057 Legal or illegal
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| 08/11/07 01:41am |
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Timorguy View Profile |
Message To: Pink801 In reference to Message Id: 1398583
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| 08/14/07 02:27pm |
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Jamesherps View Profile |
Message To: Bubba13 In reference to Message Id: 1367782 Legal or illegal
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| 07/25/08 05:50pm |
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VenomPrx View Profile |
Message To: Jamesherps In reference to Message Id: 1808573 Legal or illegal
§ 161.01. Wild animals prohibited. [FN1] (a) No person shall sell or give to another person, possess, harbor or keep wild animals identified in subsection (b) of this section or in regulations promulgated by the Commissioner pursuant to subsection (e) of this section other than in: (1) A zoological park or aquarium operated by the Department of Parks, by the Wildlife Conservation Society, or by the Staten Island Zoological Society; or (2) A laboratory operated pursuant to § 504 of the Public Health Law; or (3) A circus or native wildlife rehabilitator licensed by federal or state agencies; or (4) A place which has received the approval of the Department to exhibit or use such animals, and which has protective devices which are adequate to prevent such animal from escaping or injuring the public. The Department may impose reasonable conditions and time limits on the granting of such approval. (b) For the purposes of this Code, wild animals are deemed to be any animals which are naturally inclined to do harm and capable of inflicting harm upon human beings and are hereby prohibited pursuant to subsection (a). Such animals shall include: (i) any animals specified by the Commissioner in regulations promulgated pursuant to this section; (ii) any native or exotic wildlife whose possession or sale is prohibited because they are designated as protected or endangered pursuant to any federal, state or local law, regulation, or rule; and (iii) any of the following animals: (1) All dogs other than domesticated dogs (Canis familiaris), including, but not limited to, wolf, fox, coyote, hyaena, dingo, jackal, dhole, fennec, raccoon dog, zorro, bush dog, aardwolf, cape hunting dog and any hybrid offspring of a wild dog and domesticated dog. (2) All cats other than domesticated cats (Felis catus), including, but not limited to, lion, tiger, leopard, ocelot, jaguar, puma, panther, mountain lion, cheetah, wild cat, cougar, bobcat, lynx, serval, caracal, jaguarundi, margay and any hybrid offspring of a wild cat and domesticated cat. (3) All bears, including polar, grizzly, brown and black bear. (4) All fur bearing mammals of the family Mustelidae, including, but not limited to, weasel, marten, mink, badger, ermine, skunk, otter, pole cat, zorille, wolverine, stoat and ferret. (5) All Procyonidae: All raccoon (eastern, desert, ring-tailed cat), kinkajou, cacomistle, cat-bear, panda and coatimundi. (6) All carnivorous mammals of the family Viverridae, including, but not limited to, civet, mongoose, genet, binturong, fossa, linsang and suri- cate. (7) All bats (Chiroptera). (8) All non-human primates, including, but not limited to, monkey, ape, chimpanzee, gorilla and lemur. (9) All squirrels (Sciuridae). (10) Reptiles (Reptilia). All Helodermatidae (gila monster and Mexican beaded lizard); all front-fanged venomous snakes, even if devenomized, including, but not limited to, all Viperidae (viper, pit viper), all Elapidae (cobra, mamba, krait, coral snake), all Atractaspididae (African burrowing asp), all Hydrophiidae (sea snake), all Laticaudidae (sea krait); all venomous, mid-or rear-fanged, Duvernoy-glanded members of the family Colubridae, even if devenomized; any member, or hybrid offspring of the family Boidae, including, but not limited to, the common or green anaconda and yellow anaconda; any member of the family Pythonidae, including but not limited to the African rock python, Indian or Burmese python, Amethystine or scrub python; any member of the family Varanidae, including the white throated monitor, Bosc’s or African savannah monitor, Komodo monitor or dragon, Nile monitor, crocodile monitor, water monitor, Bornean earless monitor; any member of the family Iguanidae, including the green or common iguana; any member of the family teiidae, including, but not limited to the golden, common, or black and white tegu; all members of the family Chelydridae, including snapping turtle and alligator snapping turtle; and all members of the order Crocodylia, including, but not limited to alligator, caiman and crocodile. (11) Birds and Fowl (Aves): All predatory or large birds, including, but not limited to, eagle, hawk, falcon, owl, vulture, condor, emu, rhea and ostrich; roosters, geese, ducks and turkeys prohibited or otherwise regulated pursuant to § 161.19 of this Code, the Agriculture and Markets Law or applicable federal law. (12) All venomous insects, including, but not limited to, bee, hornet and wasp. (13) Arachnida and Chilopoda: All venomous spiders, including, but not limited to, tarantula, black widow and solifugid; scorpion; all venomous arthropods including, but not limited to, centipede. (14) All large rodents (Rodentia), including, but not limited to, gopher, muskrat, paca, woodchuck, marmot, beaver, prairie dog, capybara, sewellel, viscacha, porcupine and hutia. (15) All even-toed ungulates (Artiodactyla) including, but not limited to, deer, antelope, sheep, giraffe and hippopotamus. (16) All odd-toed ungulates (Perissodactyla) other than domesticated horses (Equus caballus), including, but not limited to, zebra, rhinoceros and tapir. (17) All marsupials, including, but not limited to, Tasmanian devil, dasyure, bandicoot, kangaroo, wallaby, opossum, wombat, koala bear, cuscus, numbat and pigmy, sugar and greater glider. (18) Sea mammals (Cetacea, Pinnipedia and Sirenia), including, but not limited to, dolphin, whale, seal, sea lion and walrus. (19) All elephants (Proboscides). (20) All hyrax (Hyracoidea). (21) All pangolin (Pholidota). (22) All sloth and armadillo (Edentala). (23) Insectivorous mammals (Insectivora): All aardvark (Tubulidentata), anteater, shrew, otter shrew, gymnure, desman, tenrec, mole and hedge hog. (24) Gliding lemur (Dermoptera). (c) In addition to domesticated dogs and cats, an animal may be kept, possessed, harbored or sold in the City of New York provided that possession of the animal is not otherwise prohibited by law, including federal, state and local laws regulating domestic animals and livestock or protecting wildlife and endangered species. Such animals include, but are not limited to, gerbil, hamster (Mesocricetus auratus), guinea pig, domesticated rabbit and fowl or small birds such as parakeet, parrot, canary and finch. (d) An animal whose possession is prohibited pursuant to this section may be seized by any authorized employee, officer or agent of the Department or of any other agency of the City of New York, and the Commissioner shall provide for such animal’s appropriate disposition. (1) An order issued by the Commissioner pursuant to this section shall contain a notice that the owner of such animal may, within three business days of receipt of the order, request an opportunity to be heard with respect to whether the animal is a prohibited animal and its appropriate disposition. The Commissioner shall provide such an opportunity to be heard as soon as practicable, but no later than 15 days after receipt of such request. (2) With the written consent of the Department, an owner of any animal whose possession is prohibited pursuant to this section, may remove such animal to another jurisdiction where its possession is not prohibited pursuant to any local or other law. (e) The Commissioner may promulgate such regulations as may be necessary to add to the list in subsection (b) any animal which the Commissioner determines is naturally inclined to do harm and capable of inflicting bodily harm upon human beings. (f) If any provision of this section is adjudged invalid by any court of competent jurisdiction, such judgment shall not affect or impair the validity of the remainder of this section. |
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| 07/25/08 10:56pm |
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Chippychop View Profile |
Message To: Reedie In reference to Message Id: 1389850
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| 07/31/08 11:46pm |
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VenomPrx View Profile |
Message To: Chippychop In reference to Message Id: 1815475 Legal or illegal
monitors make incredible fascinating animals....for those that can keep them properly. i.e stable, enough space, out of school, with enough disposable income to satiate the big ol’ lizards mighty appetite and heat needs. not to mention some are downright dangerous to own (croc monitors). monitors are many things, stupid isn’t one of them. some species have been shown to recognize and differentiate between keepers in zoos, as well as from my standpoint seem to be the most evolved out of the lizards, almost snakelike in many functions (share the forked tongue and possibly correct me if I’m wrong, Jacobson’s organ.) agamids (including frillies), at least from my recollection are a much older family with members somewhat archaic in design. in essence they operate under mostly instinct. frilled’s make better pets, however, monitors are stunning animals that can truly be appreciated as one of natures gems. |
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| 08/06/08 09:59pm |
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VenomPrx View Profile |
Message To: VenomPrx In reference to Message Id: 1822297 Legal or illegal
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| 08/06/08 10:06pm |
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