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 #1758100


Utahraptr
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 New Guinea Frillie

Does anyone know the average size for a female adult New Guinea? I’m trying to determine how big my frillie will get when she’s fully grown.

This is Everest (aka Evie), "she" (according to the vet) is almost a year old. She’s about 16 inches long now, (missing about 1 inch on her tail tip). I’m pretty sure she’s a New Guinea. She eats a diet of super worms, horn worms, and silkworms, as well as veggies. Her enclosure is approximately 5 feet tall, 4 feet long, and 2 feet wide.














06/11/08  05:24pm

 #1758851


Threnagyn
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  Message To: Utahraptr   In reference to Message Id: 1758100


 New Guinea Frillie

Males get about 3 feet, females will be 2ft 4in-2ft 8in from what ive seen



06/12/08  01:40pm

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Chippychop
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  Message To: Threnagyn   In reference to Message Id: 1758851


 New Guinea Frillie

thats correct males get huge //but believe it or not so can females I’ve seen them over two feet long and fat holycats /if your female hasn’t turned into a trash compactor of bugs I,m sure she will! they get pretty big and yours looks to be just a baby!but she’s beautiful and healthy lookin/I have a male about a yr old and he seems to grow about an inch every month!he’s huge!he will eat anything that fits between his two eyes!and he’s become a great friend ///we play peek a boo all the time /it’s fun he eats from my hand///I can cuddle him into a baby position and feed him!it took a while to get to that piont but we’re there now and it’s such a reward!you can see my male on look at this baby!when I bought him I was told he was an aussie/but later learned he’ s really just a new guinea/wich doesn’t matter I’ll bet he lives to be twenty yrs old or better! cool talkin at you! CHIP!



06/13/08  07:46pm

 #1760191


Utahraptr
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  Message To: Chippychop   In reference to Message Id: 1760159


 New Guinea Frillie

Awww chippychop your frillie sounds like he’s great!!! How big is he now?

Evie is very friendly, we get comments from her vet because she lets him hold her and check her over, doesn’t give him any trouble, even when he sexed her (held her on her back under the magnifying glass) she didn’t mind, just sat there nice and calm. She loves to be pet and held, and one of her favorite places to sleep is in my hair. She’s 16 inches long now, and her frill is much larger than in the pic of her as a baby. She rarely frills now, just when she yawns. Although she frilled at my finance today when he turned her lights on, she didn’t want to come out of her enclosure for a morning bath. We try to bathe her daily, especially when she’s in shed. Usually she enjoys it, sits in the bath for a bit, drinks some water. But she didn’t want any part of it this morning, so she frilled him when he opened her enclosure, jumped out of her bath when he got her in (it’s just a pie dish that he fills with luke warm water and sets on the floor) and bounced around the enclosure door until he let her back in, then climbed to her light and basked and let me pet her.

I’m hoping she gets HUGE, she has to grow into her enclosure. She gets about 8 worms and veggies every morning, sometimes she eats the worms right away and then gets more, other times she snacks on them during the day. I had one morning where she ate 12 supers! I don’t know where she put them. When I get home after work, I hand feed her more worms and depending on how many she ate while I was gone, the afternoon feeding can be anywhere from no worms (she ignores them) up to about 8 (the other day she ate 8 superworms plus two horns in the afternoon, but not much in the morning/during the day). I’ve seen her eat veggies as well, I know most don’t but she seems to enjoy them. So I put them in her food dish daily. She also drinks from her water dish on her own and enjoys occasional watermelon juice dripped on her nose.



06/13/08  08:37pm

 #1760522


Threnagyn
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  Message To: Utahraptr   In reference to Message Id: 1760191


 New Guinea Frillie

Your enclosure should be big enough, about the size I keep mine in. One thing you should watch out for though... in my experience, frilleds will drink out of their water, but will later forget about it. I learned that the hard way when one went through a dehydration issue a while back. Previously, she drank from a water bowl for about a whole year, but then she stopped and I didnt notice, and I had to spray her mouth, and then she went back to the water bowl. Just keep an eye out, and offer it here and there by spraying. Lizards work differently than other animals- It can be confusing sometimes.



06/14/08  07:33am

 #1760571


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  Message To: Threnagyn   In reference to Message Id: 1760522


 New Guinea Frillie

Utahraptr good to see you & Evie here...... I have one question for you. What type of greens will Evie eat for you. I have offered Swizz all kinds ,the only type of green stuff he tried to eat is the painted moss on his food dish.



06/14/08  09:45am

 #1760681


Utahraptr
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  Message To: DV   In reference to Message Id: 1760571


 New Guinea Frillie

Hey, I have a beardie as well and Evie gets the same types of greens as my beardie - I make two separate salads each morning, except Evie gets a lot more worms. We use endive, escarole, collard greens, mustard greens, dandelion greens, sometimes kale or romaine if we’re running low on the others. I also have tried hand feeding her some fruits, such as banana, apples, blueberries, black berries, raspberries, watermelon, honeydew, ,cantalope. She doesn’t eat the fruit, although she will lick at it for the juice and seemd to enjoy the watermelon juice (she licked that for a bit, licked the drips off her nose. Just wouldn’t eat it).

I found out she ate veggies on accident - back when I fed crickets, I didn’t want the crickets to bother her during the day while I was at work. I’d put a bunch in during the morning, but if she didn’t eat them all, I didn’t have time to try and find every one and get them out before work. So I put in a pile of greens for the crickets to munch on, then Evie could snack on the crickets whenever she wanted during the day. All crickets were removed after I got home, and her enclosure is cleaned every night. When she moved on to worms (she’s cricket free now, we don’t feed any of our lizards crickets), I continued putting in veggies for the worms to eat. And I’d come home to a missing pile of veggies, or veggies torn apart and most of them eaten. At first I thought maybe it was the worms eating them, but I did the same for my beardie (putting in worms and salad) and there were days when her salad dish was still full, so I realized t couldn’t be the worms - why would the ones in Evie’s enclosure eat all the salad, and the ones in my beardie’s not?And then I caught Evie eating her mustard greens one day. So she gets a giant bowl of greens, sometimes she eats them, other days she ignores them. But it’s good to know she enjoys them.

She also has a live ficus tree in the living room, I’ve caught her sneaking bites from the leaves there too.



06/14/08  12:25pm

 #1765780


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  Message To: Utahraptr   In reference to Message Id: 1760681


 New Guinea Frillie

Male NG’s only get 2 ft and females get 18-20 inches. Australian males get 3 ft and females get 26 inches. Your female will get 18-20 inches. You were given the wrong information.



06/18/08  11:11pm

 #1766837


Chippychop
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  Message To: Renae   In reference to Message Id: 1765780


 New Guinea Frillie

you know renae is probbably right //she’s been workin out some of my bugs for a while now thanks Chip the rock star!



06/19/08  08:47pm

 #1827588


Utahraptr
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  Message To: Chippychop   In reference to Message Id: 1766837


 New Guinea Frillie

Hey, I’m bringing back my old post about Evie with a new question. I measured Evie today, she is 17 long nose to end of tail when lying down (she’d be 18 with the missing inch on the tip of her tail). She’s a bit over a year old now (we’ve had her a full year since July 21, she was about a month or 2 old at that time).

My question: what is the average size for a year old female New Guinea? Is Evie about average, or does she seem bigger or smaller? In May her weight was 118 grams (up 68 from the end of October when she was 50 grams). She full body shed in June (shed complete around June 10th), frill/head/tail/chest shed August 2nd and just finished the rest of her tail. Her back and legs are getting ready to shed again, and it looks like her frill is starting to turn the shed color again (basically I think she’s in a growth spurt).

About how long will she take to reach full growth? I’ve been told it takes them 2 to 3 years for full growth? Also, could being in her larger enclosure that she moved into in the beginning of June be a cause for a growth spurt, or could it just be that it’s summer and she’s eating a lot and growing more? And am I measuring her correctly - lying down with her head on the ground and her tail straight out behind her? If she’s sitting up, she’s 16 just over 16 inches.

Some pics of her growth:

July 2007 size measurement



July 2007 hand size comparison




January measurement



January hand size comparison



And July 2008 hand size comparison (I still need to do a pic of her against the tape measurer)



08/11/08  09:04pm

 #1833777


Chippychop
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  Message To: Utahraptr   In reference to Message Id: 1827588


 New Guinea Frillie

ok !!!!well heres what Ive learned!!!! NG frillies get about 20 inches for males and around 17 for females on an average;however ther are exceptions to the rule some get bigger .I imagine your female is now topped out on length and will start to grow outward or fatter!aussie frillies get really big twice the size even as a NG frilly’it,s not unherd of for the two species to cross breed causing a high brid!then you just never know till about after two yrs of growth!however the chances of having a hi brid is rare!looking at your pics shows your frilly is happy and healthy!I say keep up the good work!!keep showing pics!!!laters Chip!



08/17/08  11:29am

 #1834003


Utahraptr
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  Message To: Chippychop   In reference to Message Id: 1833777


 New Guinea Frillie

Hey, thanks for responding. Well, the growing outward might explain all the shedding (she’s about to full body shed again!) She’s defiantly getting wider and we’re thinking of cutting back on her worms so she doesn’t get fat. She’s got quite the little frillie belly now!



08/17/08  03:28pm


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