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 Tree frog care sheet. (feed back please)

I made a care sheet for caring for tree frogs (particularly gray and green tree frogs) and I would like to get some feed back on it. Here it is.

A tree frog is an excellent choice! most common ones are gray tree frogs, and green tree frogs, and red eyed tree frogs are just awesome. Should you decide to get a tree frog, here is an easy way to set up your tank.

WHAT YOU WILL NEED:

-For one frog a 5 gallon, 2-4 a 10-15 gallon tank, and for 5 a 20 gallon tank. For every other 1-2 frogs add 5 gallons.

-You will need some rocks and dirt to make a "shore"

-Sticks

-Crickets, fruit flies, and any insect besides beetles or ants. crickets can be bought at petco/petsmart for 10-12 cents a cricket depending on size. (size of cricket depends on frog size, they can stomach some pretty big prey, but the width of the prey shouldn’t be bigger then the space between their eyes.)

-spray bottle, You will need to mist them/it often since humidity is vital.

THE SET UP:

1. First, take your tank and fill it up with water. The water shouldn’t be any higher then half the frogs height. It is ok to go a little over board, but remember, young tree frogs can drown.

2. Now using rocks and dirt, make a shore for the frogs to come out of the water, and for the crickets to walk on so the frogs can hunt them. (If you are not hand feeding them)

3. Then just add some sticks for them to climb on. (They are called tree frogs for a reason.) Also, a little place for them to hide in is always good. Don’t forget a cover to the tank with a lockable screen.

4. Your pretty much done now. You don’t NEED a UV light, but I always have one on during the day for my gray tree frogs because I think it makes the habitat look cool. Most frogs are comfortable at room temperature.

CARING FOR THEM:

-Remember to mist them daily, but it is not vital if you have water in the tank, as they drink through their skin so misting them is like giving them something to drink, but it still important for maintaining humidity, and I HIGHLY SUGGEST you add AT LEAST a water dish.

-For the younger ones, I think it is best to hand feeder them crickets, young frogs suck at cricket catching but they will also keep on attempting to ambush any prey that moves until they get the whole predator thing down. They won’t attack prey if it doesn’t move. A baby tree frog will average 1-2 small crickets a day. But until they are big enough for large crickets, You might end up feeding them up to 5 crickets a day! However They will be fine with 2-3. You should be spending about 15 crickets a week on each frog.

-Wash your hands before (ESPECIALLY BEFORE) and after handling. And don’t handle them often, since your bodies natural oils can be harmful to them.

-I Once had 6 in one tank once (eventually donated 3 since crickets were getting expensive) and I cleaned their tank every month. So I would figure If you have 1 tree frog, clean the tank every 6 months. I like to completely replace everything in the tank (except rocks, and this really good stick i found) but cleaning the walls, and removing feces, and replacing/adding substrate will work just fine.

AND NOW YOUR DONE!!!

Enjoy the tree frogs.

ALSO, I would suggest getting them as tadpoles because they are cheaper, and less stress when they change enclosure. tadpoles are easier to take care of then fish.

Other good choices would be a Pacman frog or a bull frog or a pixie frog.

The bigger frogs are usually more lazy so sticks aren’t important, but substrate that they can dig into is very important. eco-earth coconut husks is an excellent substrate/bedding choice for any frog.

Well I hope this helps!

EDIT: one more thing, just keep in mind that if you get multiple frogs, crickets are expensive, and frogs will eat 2-4 crickets a day EACH! So if you’re getting more then 3 try breeding your own insects.

EDIT: Also, frogs bigger then tree frogs, will obviously need a bigger tank.



09/03/09  10:57pm

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  Message To: Kingcosmo7   In reference to Message Id: 2067381


 Tree frog care sheet. (feed back please)

No frog does well in a 5 gallon tank. Even a 10 gallon doesn’t provide enough space for a tree frog, the only thing I do with 10’s is flip them on their side and make tall tanks for some thumbnail dart frogs. You’d have a massively overcrowded tank 5 in a 20 gallon. 1 frog 20 gallons +5 gallons for each additional frog.

You’re idea for substrate is ill advised, you’d keep the humidity levels way too high and likely lose your animals to bacterial and fungal infections. Coco fiber or organic soil is a good substrate, not water...

Tadpoles depending on the species need high water quality or they will not morph out well. Baby frogs are very difficult to feed and fairly delicate. It’s better to get a 2-3 month old frog than a tadpole for a beginner.

Some big mistakes, but don’t sweat it if it is your first try. Next time do research towards a specific species. Each frog has it’s own quirks that makes it special.



09/04/09  12:21am

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  Message To: Sh0e   In reference to Message Id: 2067411


 Tree frog care sheet. (feed back please)

well that helps, but I have kept 2-3 in 10 gallon tanks and they don’t seem to get over crowded. A gray tree frog only gets about 2 inches long. And The water substrate has worked well for me for a long time, but then again, I do go crazy with cleaning the tank, so you may have a point. And I don’t know about you, but gray tree frog (species which i’m talking about) tadpoles are EXTREMELY easy to take care of. I have been breading a few generations of them, and are really hardy. As for feeding baby frogs, your right it is difficult, but not that hard to over come.

But still, thank you for your feed back, I’m really trying to make a good care sheet. Also, I added a breeding section, but I’m gonna get better with the other stuff before releasing it. And I think I should make breeding a completely different care sheet. Since I have bred gray tree frogs and it takes A LOT of dedication, but for every 2000 tadpoles that live I make $500 dollars.

Thanks again for your feed back!



09/04/09  12:30am

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  Message To: Kingcosmo7   In reference to Message Id: 2067415


 Tree frog care sheet. (feed back please)

Keep in mind the people that read care sheets are people with little to know experience with that given animal. You mention RETF’s in your opening statement and I know you didn’t say the caresheet was for them, but people will misread you all the time even if you are crystal clear.

Grays are a pretty easy species to keep, but any froglet is going to be difficult for someone who doesn’t realize they need to culture fruit flies, and not every pet store offers pinhead crickets.

Water quality is very important. I’ve heard of lots of people losing batches of gray eggs due to poor water quality, consider yourself lucky that you have good water it seems, or very good breeding frogs. Personally, I can attest for the importance for the more delicate species like red eyed tree frogs and dart frogs.

A lot of the literature is outdated as far as humidity levels in frog tanks. Most state humidity levels that are way to high, and then I get people coming in with bacterial infections killing their animals. 30-50% relative humidity is a good level for most tree frogs. With a tank of water at the bottom I can’t see how you don’t keep the humidity low enough to prevent this. Or maybe you just have a super strain of grays.



09/04/09  02:12am

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  Message To: Sh0e   In reference to Message Id: 2067448


 Tree frog care sheet. (feed back please)

Thanks. I always thought that humidity was important, but I’ll keep that in mind for my next revision.



09/04/09  01:58pm


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