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 Vitamin deficiency in fish

First, what vitamin(s) do fish lack? Can you pour the multi vitamin powder with the fish to somehow create the vitamins in the fish? Sprinkling the water bowl with it? Thanks, Alec



04/10/08  09:14pm

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  Message To: Reptililian Boy   In reference to Message Id: 1698196


 Vitamin deficiency in fish

I don’t think it’s a case of fish lacking vitamins. Goldfish and rosy red minnows contain an enzyme, thyminase, that breaks down thymine. Thymine is one of the B vitamins and when it gets broken down by the enzyme, it’s not available to the snake. I don’t know how much vitamin you’d have to add to have too much for the enzyme to break down (I’m also not aware of a straight thymine supplement, and you would need to know how much you can give without overdosing the snake). I’ve heard that cooking / boiling the fish denatures the thyminase (makes it inactive).

You can try feeding fish such as mosquito fish. To the best of my knowledge, they do not have thyminase.

Fish are not really the best staple. Petstore feeder fish are frequently treated with antibiotics and antifungals and animals fed these fish could potentially be poisoned. Instead of fish, you can buy night crawlers at stores that sell live bait. Or the best option, get your snake to convert to mice.



04/13/08  10:41pm

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  Message To: Aliceinwl   In reference to Message Id: 1702271


 Vitamin deficiency in fish

I am trying pinkies right now, but my Mom (gosh mom...) accidently (sure) threw them out. So new pinkies will come soon. I’m sorry to report my other Checkered Garter snake died...sniff...He was doing well and everything seemed good. I looked at him after my Mom took him out, but It looked like he had blood in his mouth and before--my mom told me that he had some reptile bark pieces in his mouth. Maybe he choked? It’s probably my fault so please understand that I am at a loss and I did everything I could do. Maybe it wasn’t enough.

R.I.P Stubbz

Thanks, Alec



04/17/08  07:57pm

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Zip chew2
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  Message To: Reptililian Boy   In reference to Message Id: 1698196


 Vitamin deficiency in fish

i just sprinkle powder stuff on my fish



04/19/08  12:06am

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Reptililian Boy
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  Message To: Zip chew2   In reference to Message Id: 1708629


 Vitamin deficiency in fish

Yeah are they dead? My snake doesn’t eat dead fish
Thanks, Alec



04/19/08  06:54pm

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Matt Chandler
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  Message To: Reptililian Boy   In reference to Message Id: 1709336


 Vitamin deficiency in fish

My little garter will eat anything, live fish dead fish, pinlie mice and now, new on his list pieces of chicken. I have a greater appreciation now for garter snakes, especially since it’s so cheap to feed them now. Sorry to hear about Stubbs. Mine is in the same aquarium as my bull snake and they get along just fine. They sleep together and thats as much as they do together. Donnie the bull is 3 feet and had him since he was 18" and now the garter who I am gonna name Spot, because the line in the middle of his back has a missing yellow scale to make the line whole, instead is green scale. To have your snake eat dead fish, just wriggle them a bit like the jumped out the water and bam, SUCCESS!!!



04/20/08  04:57pm

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  Message To: Matt Chandler   In reference to Message Id: 1710279


 Vitamin deficiency in fish

chicken is too fatty for most snakes and will probably higher bad cholesterol and eventually kill them. pythons/anacondas can eat chicken, but the chicken would have to be whole and live, not cooked/fried chicken. i have a small corn snake with my garters but i wouldnt recomend putting a 3 foot bull snake in with it or any large snake with your garter because one day you might find your garter missing-and your bull snake with a full stomach.



04/21/08  08:59am

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  Message To: Gottee guy   In reference to Message Id: 1711013


 Vitamin deficiency in fish

Yesterday I happened to buy a fairly large fuzzy rat for my bullsnake and went downstairs to watch tv and came back and found skinny 18" garter swallowing it. Looked like a ananconda scene. I was standing by incase he chokes on it, but he swallowed the whole thing. When I saw that rat alive I would of nevr thought that would of happened, especially the size comparison. I took some pics for proof but don’t know how to post them.



04/22/08  08:43am

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  Message To: Matt Chandler   In reference to Message Id: 1712167


 Vitamin deficiency in fish

1.make an account on photobucket.
2.post the pics on your account in photobucket.
3.copy the url.
4.come here and press link once, post the url, and press end link.then post the message/link.



04/22/08  07:28pm

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Matt Chandler
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  Message To: Gottee guy   In reference to Message Id: 1712786


 Vitamin deficiency in fish

Well it looks like it didnt get to stay down for more than 24 hours. It only stayed in his stomach for about 18 hours then he threw up, most disgusting thing I ever seen. thats alot of work just to post a picture



04/23/08  09:11am

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  Message To: Matt Chandler   In reference to Message Id: 1713295


 Vitamin deficiency in fish

not really. what did he throw up?



04/24/08  04:48pm

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  Message To: Gottee guy   In reference to Message Id: 1714960


 Vitamin deficiency in fish

a fuzzy rat



04/29/08  08:52am


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