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Philupthecup
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 Birth

i saw this vide on youtube and this guy said his crestie laid an egg about 4 months ago and he showed it and it was still in the cage and not in an incubator, is that bad? i commented and ask why it wasnt in an incubator but he said that the best thing to do about an accidental birth is to let the mom do the work, what is the best thing for that egg?



04/15/08  10:21pm

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  Message To: Philupthecup   In reference to Message Id: 1704926


 Birth

Let the mom do the work? . . . That’s not a good idea at all.

Cresteds lay their eggs, then forget about them. They are also opportunistic and may eat their young. They don’t know it’s their baby, it’s just a small, mobile meal to them.

If his egg is just sitting exposed in the tank it’s not very likely to hatch. In fact, at four months old it’s past the end of its possible hatch date. Incubation for crested eggs is usually 60-80 days. Four months would be 120 days, give or take.



04/15/08  11:07pm

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  Message To: Stray_Mongrel   In reference to Message Id: 1704995


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though it can take up to 180 days depending upon the temp of the incubator, or in this case the cage, the humidity for an egg to survive needs to be between 95-99% if the egg is exposed to air. so the chances of the eggs hatching are very slim if they are visible, but other than laying the eggs, the parents have no involvement in the "birth" or "raising" of their young, and will eat them. i mean think of it this way, an adult breeding crested gecko should be anywhere from 36-65g’s, and when a baby hatches it is usually between 1.5 and 2.5g’s... it is just stupid to think that something that big will not eat something that small
i have had eggs that took just over four months to hatch, and i have eggs that i couldn’t find for two months that are doing well and are going to hatch in the next coupe of months! [they look completely normal, and are growing just like all the other eggs i have had as well], but they were completely buried and the substrate holds moisture really well as well. but how long it takes to hatch depends entirely upon what the temp is. these guys were incubated at a lower temperature because they were layed in mid november, and just hatched on april first. these eggs were also lost in the substrate for a week or so before i found them, but most substrates will kill eggs because they leach dyes or other chemicles into them, or let them dry out. i use completely natural peat moss for my females tank which is a naturalistic terrarium [i had a teacher who was a herpetologist, and she suggested it to me. she told me that it is the best thing for a bio-active terrarium because it doesn’t mold easily, it does not leach anything, it holds moisture really well, and it is already pretty much biologically charged. so it is the only thing that i will use! lol i think that i got an A in her class because she found out about my obsession! and we shared reptiles and wanting to provide them naturalistic enclosures in common!] any ways, here are the guys who hatched two weeks ago and they are fine, but i would tell the guy that if he wants the little ones to survive an not be eaten, he needs to get them out of there!



i wasn’t trying to hijack or anything, but i just wanted to let you know that the eggs can survive and even hatch in a naturalistic enclosure if they are buried and in the correct substrate, even though that is not the best idea because they could be eaten, and that it can also take up to six months for an egg to hatch, so if you or anyone else you know decides to breed, or accidentally do, or end up buying a gravid female [however you could get a gravid female] you don’t throw the egg out thinking it is bad or won’t hatch or something...

i can’t believe that someone would do that! if he didn’t want an "accidental birth" a male shouldn’t have been housed with a female...



04/16/08  12:45am


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