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#1851388

Gecko_lover
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Ok what would a...

ok would a leopard gecko be good for a 13 yr old?? and if so plz let me kno all the stuff i need to get. i will be for ever in ur debt. THANX FOR THE HELP!!

09/04/08 06:05pm

#1851458

Ammeratsu
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Leopard geckos are great for 13 year olds. I’m thirteen, and have 5. You should do lots of research before getting one, though. I’ll give you basic instructions on their care, but you should take a look at some care sheets, too

Supplies:

Minimum 10 gallon aquarium
Pure calcium powder
Calcium with vitamin D3 powder
Under tank heater or heat lamp
Thermostat or light dimmer
Reptile carpet, tile, paper towels, or newspaper(No sand or other loose substrate, unless you’re experienced)
Digital thermometer with probe
2 dry hides and a humid hide(You can use the zoo-med 3 in 1 cave or I can tell you how to make one)
Water bowl
Dish for calcium
Mealworms, crickets, or silkworms
Screen lid

Very basic cage set up:

- First, place a solid substrate like paper towels(Easiest to clean) on the floor of the cage(No sand for beginners. It could cause impaction)
- Then, place a dry hide on each side of the cage
- Place the humid hide in the middle or wherever
- Place the water dish wherever
- Place a dish with some pure calcium powder wherever
- Stick the thermometer on the glass and place the probe inside one of the dry hides
- Place the under tank heater or heat lamp on the side of the cage that has the thermometer

Basic Care Needs:

- Hatchlings and juveniles should eat every day. Feed them for a period of 10-15 minutes. Don’t leave drickets roaming in the cage, because they could bite the gecko. Mealworms can be placed in a dish
- Adults should eat every other day
- Dust their food with pure calcium 3 times a week, and calcium with vitamin D3 2 times a week(VERY IMPORTANT. They could develop metabolic bone disorder from lack of calcium)
- Spot clean every day
- Clean the cage thoroughly every week
- a warm side and a cool side should be kept. The warm side should be 87-93 degrees and the cool side 77-83 on the cool side
- make sure the humidity stays low. They’re desert animals and could get a respiratory infection from high humidty
- Remember, no sand for beginners. Sand could lodge itself in the gecko’s digestive track and cause impaction if they lick it or eat it when trying to hunt. Calcium sand is not digestible, so it should never be used

Other people will come and help you with anything I may have left out.

Remember, read care sheets!

09/04/08 07:03pm

#1851463

Gecko_lover
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Message To: Ammeratsu In reference to Message Id: 1851458

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ur 13 too? cool.

omg thank u so much for this information. i owe u!

09/04/08 07:05pm

#1851468

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Message To: Ammeratsu In reference to Message Id: 1851458

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how much is this going to cost???!!!???!!!

09/04/08 07:10pm

#1851470

Ammeratsu
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Message To: Gecko_lover In reference to Message Id: 1851468

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Well, I helped my cousin set up something for her gecko, and It costed around $200 not counting the gecko.

09/04/08 07:14pm

#1851477

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Message To: Ammeratsu In reference to Message Id: 1851470

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your kidding right?? tht much!?!?!?

09/04/08 07:23pm

#1851483

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Message To: Gecko_lover In reference to Message Id: 1851477

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Looking at the other threads you’ve spammed over the forums, One saying your mom would let you get one, one proclaiming to be your mother, and another titled ’my mom wont let me get one’, and according to your response on the cheap cost it is to get and set up for a leo - which is by far one of the cheapest lizards out there - I really don’t think you are ready to own a lizard. Perhaps when you get a job and do more research.

09/04/08 07:26pm

#1851489

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Message To: KrazyKelli In reference to Message Id: 1851483

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ok i did not mean to spam i am sorry. tht was my mom. i swear to god it was her. and i own two water dragons.

09/04/08 07:29pm

#1851493

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Message To: Gecko_lover In reference to Message Id: 1851489

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Trust me, I know that that was not your mother. Your mother would not start a thread saying, "Oh my (censored) God" in initials. And you stated in one of your threads that your mother owned the water dragons, not you. That you wanted to stuff a ’gecko’ with no species name into a 10 gallon tank you already set up with two accessories. And still, that doesn’t explain that other thread in the General Lizard forum contradicting your other statements and saying you’re mother will not let you own one now.

09/04/08 07:32pm

#1851501

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Message To: KrazyKelli In reference to Message Id: 1851493

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no tht one was me. my mom was the one who posted my daugther wants a gecko.

09/04/08 07:35pm

#1851505

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Message To: KrazyKelli In reference to Message Id: 1851493

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and she said i can not get one till i do more research. so i am doing more research. i want to find out what type of lizard would be good for me and then once i figure tht out i am going to study it and find out if i can take care of it.

09/04/08 07:37pm

#1851508

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Message To: Gecko_lover In reference to Message Id: 1851505

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and i say my mom owns them because they are in her room. yet since i am always on the computer i take care of them. they are pretty much the families.

09/04/08 07:38pm

#1851569

Ammeratsu
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Message To: Gecko_lover In reference to Message Id: 1851508

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Honestly, guys, must everything turn into an argument? People come here, especially younger people, to find out more. Perhaps we should welcome them into the world of reptiles more gently. Your first post was a little uncalled for. A 13 year old came here to find out more on the species by making a thread asking about materials, so I see no reason to attack them. In my first post, I posted basic care and told them they should do a lot more research before deciding to get one. I mentioned multiple times to read more care sheets, and I think I got the point across.

I know when I first came on here, I was very knew to leopard geckos. I bought from petco and didn’t know how to deal with impaction. When the little one died from it, the only thing that motivated me to get another was the people on here. They were nice and told me what happened and I shouldn’t buy from petco. If people were rude, I probably wouldn’t have my 5 leos today.

I agree, Gecko_lover should do much more research. Also, I think you need to realize that supporting an animal is not cheap, and shouldn’t be cheap. You need to be prepared to buy calcium and food and sometimes even vet appointments for when it’s sick or injured.

This wasn’t meant to cause offense or attack anyone, it’s just starting to surprise me as I realize that there’s almost never a peaceful thread, without one little dispute going on in any of the forums except for the tree frogs maybe. Again, no offense meant, I just thought I express my opinion on how to handle younger and new members.

09/04/08 08:20pm

#1851586

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Message To: Ammeratsu In reference to Message Id: 1851569

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i agree with you about being nice to new people that are trying to get in to the reptile hobby. everyone was a new person at one time. but i also think that new people shouldn’t hijack threads and make multiple threads for the same question and then get mad less than an hour later when nobody has answered their threads. make one post in the general lizard forum and wait a day to see if people respond. if you know what species you are looking at getting you could post a second thread in that specific forum.

im all for helping new people but i refuse to give someone all the general info. i will help someone by pointing them in the right direction of books and websites for them to research.

many reptiles live 15+ years and the way i see it is, if someone will not take a few days to research the species that the want and know at least the general care, then it probably means that they will not spend the next 15+ years caring for the animal.

i will point people in the direction to do research and then once they research i will help with info that they could not find and answer any specific questions they have. people should put some effort in to the research before we just hand them the info.

sorry if i sound harsh but its what i think about the situation. i see this all the time on these forums.

09/04/08 08:40pm

#1851624

CAI&TAI
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Message To: Guido1090 In reference to Message Id: 1851586

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Wow I am the one that sent my daughter to this site thinking she would get some help and not be attacked. I guess I was wrong. Thank you to those who have stood up for her she is excited as any child would be. She is doing the research because i said that she could not get one until she did and she could afford one. KrazyKelli the way you talked to her in your responses you should be a shamed of your self she is 13 and I am the one that posted the first message so I think that you owe my daughter an apology. And she was not spamming how you think that you must be crazy. I did not realize that she set up her own profile hers is gecko lover and mine is cai&tai. So the next time you want to run your mouth at my daughter you better make ure you know all the facts not what you think are the facts.

Kara (THE MOM)

09/04/08 08:57pm

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Message To: CAI&TAI In reference to Message Id: 1851624

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okay well i agree with Kelli that your daughter was spamming. she does need to research and this is a great place for help with researching but we are not going to just hand her all the info and let her call that research; that shows no commitment and i believe that to own a reptile you need to be committed to it and taking time to research is a good way to start that. instead of asking for all the stuff and info she needs, she should ask us to point her in the right direction of a good website or book for her to read and learn about the species.

Kara: sorry if i am one of the people who you felt was attacking her. i try my best to help and not be too harsh but sometimes i dont come across in my typing the way that i meant to.

~AC~

09/04/08 09:15pm

#1851667

CAI&TAI
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Message To: Guido1090 In reference to Message Id: 1851660

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No you are not one of them I really am upset with Kelli and the way she called my daughter a lair and I do agree that seh needs to do the research and she was on the computer doing just that. She was not only on this site. I guess I do not understand waht you mean by spamming please explain.

09/04/08 09:19pm

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Ammeratsu
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Message To: CAI&TAI In reference to Message Id: 1851667

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I see people are clearly displeased at my free info. LOL. I gave her basic info because I thought it might help in her research. I wasn’t saying that’s all she needed to know. Just thought I’d pitch in, you know? I did tell her to read care sheets and I am a person who believes you need commitment to own a leo and care for it. I know she should spend more time researching. I just wanted to make it clear that I completely agree with Guido. Gecko_lover was spamming, but I don’t think Kelli needed to be so rude about it.

09/04/08 09:30pm

#1851682

Guido1090
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Message To: CAI&TAI In reference to Message Id: 1851667

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that’s great that she was on other websites researching also!

about the spamming. she posted multiple threads asking basically the same question (i just noticed that they are in different parts of the forum) and then in less than an hour after she posted she got mad when nobody had responded. i see these kind of posts a few times a month on these forums and it gets a little annoying, i know other people get tired of these kind of posts just like i do, some just ignore them and some get mad and are more harsh with their posts.

Kelli really is a nice and helpful person. we all get tired of different people posting the same questions about getting a new reptile and not knowing anything about the animal and wanting us to tell them everything. i dont think she was trying to come across like she did.

does you or her need any more help with the research? let me know if you have any questions and i can try to help as best as i can.

09/04/08 09:34pm

#1851684

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Message To: Ammeratsu In reference to Message Id: 1851678

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ok what is spamming

09/04/08 09:34pm

#1851694

Ammeratsu
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Message To: CAI&TAI In reference to Message Id: 1851684

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Spamming means to post the same thing over and over again, or even just making a lot of threads in a row. For the sake of neatness, you try and get people to post all their questions in one thread, unless it’s an emergency and you must make a new thread a day after your non-emergency. Gecko_lover was spamming. She posted multiple threads that contradicted each other, which led to confusion and suspicion she was lying. There’s no proof that she’s lying, and there’s no proof she’s not. People do get annoyed, and I know the story. I’m just looking out for the gecko. I have nothing against Kelli, I just believe the situation could have been handled a little kinder.

09/04/08 09:40pm

#1851700

Guido1090
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Message To: CAI&TAI In reference to Message Id: 1851684

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there are many types of spam. one form of spamming is posting the same thing multiple times. this is what your daughter was doing. i see now that some of her posts were in different sections to get answers from different people and that one of them was you on her name. it is a good good idea to get answers from different people in different parts of the forum but it does get confusing when they contradict each other. more annoying than spamming in my opinion is when someone gets mad because they dont get a response right away on a forum.

i hope you understand my explanation.

~AC~

09/04/08 09:45pm

#1851703

Ammeratsu
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Message To: Guido1090 In reference to Message Id: 1851700

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I agree 100% with Guido. I just think that even when you’re annoyed, you should try and be as nice as you can. xPP

09/04/08 09:48pm

#1851708

CAI&TAI
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Message To: Guido1090 In reference to Message Id: 1851700

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Ok I will talk to her I do not think she even knows what she was doing and I know that she did not mean to do it. And I am sorry she is used to the site that I am on where you get a response quickly. I will let her know and I will make sure that she does not do it again. I just think that this all could have been handled a little differently. I also have nothing against Kelli I just think she should ask and explain before assuming the worst. and there was no reason for her to talk to her that way. I guess that is all I am saying. Thanks for the help and pointing her in the right direction I really appreciate it and so does she. And I promise you that until she is prepared there is no new lizard coming into this house. I believe in the proper research and care for everything before it enters our house.

Again thank you for your help and for not being rude to my daughter she really does mean well. Just got a little inpatient and excited.

Kara

09/04/08 09:54pm

#1851713

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Message To: Ammeratsu In reference to Message Id: 1851703

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sjipping over all of the responding posts, I will answer the initiall questions as if ther wasnt a long list of posts (not that I disagree with al of them or anything). I say that you are probably not ready, beacuse if you were you would at least be asking more specific questiions due to questions regarding all the caresheets you should have been reading. Google Leopard Gecko Care, and read everything ou can get your hands on. I’m only 15 nd have six leos, one day gecko, one crestie, and two turtles. I never use my age as an excuse, and dont hink that anyone can rightly do so. It takes alot of reading, reaserching to geta pet and take care of it properly. It also takes alot of responcibility. If you dont have 200$ and are starting from scratch (no older supplies) then you should consider saving up. A vet bill alone can get up to 100$ in no time, and if your never willing to take a pet to the bet, then you are never ready for a pet. The food cost will countinue mounding up, and will get quite pricey as leos can live to 20yrs+. I suggest you read lots of caresheets, and go through the older posts on the forums, then if you have any other questions we will be glad to help out.

09/04/08 09:56pm

#1851716

Ammeratsu
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Message To: CAI&TAI In reference to Message Id: 1851708

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I understand. ^^ I’m 13 as well, and it’s not like I’ve never been excited and impatient.

To me, it sounds like she’s under pretty decent supervision with that leo, so I trust everything should turn out okay as long as you don’t try and make everything cheap and do proper research.

09/04/08 09:57pm

#1851729

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Message To: CAI&TAI In reference to Message Id: 1851708

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i completely understand getting excited and impatient, im only 15 and i know what its like to get a new reptile. i am glad to hear that you are making sure she knows enough before she gets the animal. i wish more parents would be involved with their kids when they want reptiles.

if either of you have questions i can try to help. i dont come to the leo forum very often so you can pm me if you have questions and im not answering the threads.

09/04/08 10:07pm

#1852208

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Message To: Guido1090 In reference to Message Id: 1851729

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i did not mean to cause this....sorry for every thing i did cause

09/05/08 05:13pm

#1852477

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Message To: Gecko_lover In reference to Message Id: 1852208

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I have a 7 and a half year old male leo, and I’m 13. His name is (brase for it)... Spot.

Yes I was very young. Anyways, he is really healthy and they make great pets. Only have one, but I hope to have him for a very long time.

09/05/08 11:51pm

#1852740

CAI&TAI
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Message To: Eublepharis maculari In reference to Message Id: 1852477

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i wanted to name mine stickers. but my mom told me to wait till i get him/her and then name it. i have to do a whole weekend of research. i have learned a lot of stuff already. how am i going to b able to tell what gender it is?

09/06/08 11:52am

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