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 Neat Page for Newb’s :-)

I was just buzzing around and found this, may be useful for a small bit of info for newbies. :-)

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Cody



10/27/09  05:55pm

 #2089433


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  Message To: Lone Wolf   In reference to Message Id: 2089134


 Neat Page for Newb’s :-)

Bump :-)



10/28/09  05:47pm

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  Message To: Lone Wolf   In reference to Message Id: 2089134


 Neat Page for Newb’s :-)

Even a for not know what it it’s always good rereading something that’s helpful and refreshes our memory



10/28/09  07:05pm

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  Message To: Lone Wolf   In reference to Message Id: 2089134


 Neat Page for Newb’s :-)

There are quite a few inaccuracies in that link and I don’t think it is wise for new comers to believe everything in it.

One thing to note is that the article goes back and forth between the leopard gecko and ’gecko’ in general. Leopard geckos do not make a ’gecko, gecko’ sound. Tokays do.

It also only speaks halftruths and doens’t provide more interesting facts on wild ones. For example, leopard geckos in the Iraqi/Iran/Afgan area are split into four subspecies. While one of these subs is indeed called eublepharus macularius, the ’eublepharus macularius’ you see in today’s petstores are actually from mixbreeding all four subspecies to get the different colors and genes. None of this, or other very informational garble, was ever brought up. As for halftruths, it confuses captive with wild. In the wild they don’t sit under logs during the day, they instead burrow into clay, rock, and gypsum deposits. Though yes, I guess they would hide under logs in tank settings. It also brings up how leos don’t’ need UVB, but says absolutely NOTHING about how it’s essential they get calcium and vitamins.

Another thing that bawked me was the whole, ’leos with missing tails are lower class and don’t breed’. What kind of tripe is that? What would have been more informational and not a freaking all out lie is, "Leopard geckos shake/wave their tails to distract predators into believing the tail is the head. When the predator grabs it, the leo drops the tail. The new tail grows back to look more like a second head. Leos with or without tails will breed regardless. After all, they want that second-head trait to survive. Many many leos in the wild do not have their original tail for this very reason. Now what’s more accurate is that, in breeding captive leos, breeders will sell off ones with dropped tails for a lower price because they are not as ’pretty’ as those with original tails. The fact of the matter is that leos with regrown tails are not infertile.

One absolutely silly part is the whole ’some people let their geckos loose in the house to eat pests’. ... I don’t think I need to fill in on that one. Can you imagine a new leo owner, albeit one far too gullible, reading that, buying a few leos, and setting them free in the house? Fact, I believe I came across an anole owner a year or two ago that believed that and bought a whole bunch of anoles for their greenhouse in Wisconson. Needless to say that they all dropped dead the second the weather took a dive.





Does anyone else want to point out inaccuracies in the link? Or add to the info?



10/28/09  10:04pm

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  Message To: KrazyKelli   In reference to Message Id: 2089537


 Neat Page for Newb’s :-)

Kelli is right about the leopard geckos not making the gecko sound. Geckos are the only lizards who have voice boxes. Either the first discovered, or the most popular species made the "gecko" noise.

In the reproduction section, it forgot to note that first time breeding females usually only lay 1 egg in a clutch. 3 is very rare, and 4 is almost legendary :P... (unless he was adding all the clutches for the month... in that case he needs to be more specific.) (I have not completely looked into to breeding because I dont not have the money nore the space at the moment, so I dont know how many clutches they can have per month.)

He needs to put that the males pores are in a ^ shape. He says line.

Geckos are only released into their houses by morons (especially leos). Geckos that are found in houses are in their natural habitat. The reason they are in the houses is because its easy shelter and prey usually lives in there too...







10/28/09  10:44pm

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Lone Wolf
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  Message To: Zeek2493   In reference to Message Id: 2089546


 Neat Page for Newb’s :-)

Okay, the stuff about breeding them I wasn’t sure about as I don’t intend to breed Leo’s so I’ve never looked into it. The stuff about letting them go in the house I think is nuts unless you live in a tent in Pakistan.
And the tail wiggling I know is crap because my Leo is a female and she wiggles her tail almost every time just before she pounces on the cricket, worm, whatever. Sorry, I guess I just already knew to discredit all the gobly gook, I didn’t think about someone new not knowing what to listen to on there. The gecko gecko thing I wasn’t sure, I’ve heard a Leo squelch or whatever you want to call, I just figured that the writer thought it sounded like them saying gecko. But, the breeding stuff was what I was unsure about but, if someone is new they shouldn’t consider it yet anyways. Didn’t know that Tokay’s made a gecko noise, I’ve always wanted to get a Tokay to add to my mini zoo but haven’t yet. I will someday though... :-)

Cody



10/29/09  07:33am

 #2089884


KrazyKelli
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  Message To: Lone Wolf   In reference to Message Id: 2089615


 Neat Page for Newb’s :-)

Link Here is a link of tokay calls. Scroll down and listen to the male one. You’ll see what I mean.


Be warned that tokays will bite and bite hard. Many also come in wildcaught and will come with parasites, so you’ll need to take it to a vet and all that.



10/29/09  10:46pm

 #2089957


Lone Wolf
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  Message To: KrazyKelli   In reference to Message Id: 2089884


 Neat Page for Newb’s :-)

Yeah, I did know they bite. It’s not like I’m getting one know. It’ll have to wait a few years till’ my monitors grow up. :-)

Cody



10/30/09  06:46am


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