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 #763291


Smurfzilla
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 How grumpy are they?

this isnt my usual forum but anywhoo.. i think tokays are beautiful animals and have thought about getting one.. but from everything ive come up with theyre grumpy and dislike being handled.. but the only one ive come into contact with.. for lack of better wording.. is completely lovable.. it belongs to a friend.. its constantly out with her.. likes being touched and held and basically the exact opposite of everything ive read.. can with regular human interaction can most become relatively mild mannered? and i know that most bite.. a lot but ive probably been bitten by worse. i have a feeling im getting my hopes up.. but it doesnt hurt to ask.
04/29/06  03:34am

 #763707


Dweezle
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   Message To: Smurfzilla   In reference to Message Id: 763291


 How grumpy are they?

Ihave two I got them free from the pet store because nobody would buy them but they are adults so guess they are untameable but beautiful to look at and watch so I am happy with that as I have lizards I can hold if I want
04/29/06  02:26pm

 #763951


Hummi
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   Message To: Dweezle   In reference to Message Id: 763707


 How grumpy are they?

Most tokays are imports and very nasty. They bite and do not mind to hold on for a long time. I have heard of tame tokays, but most of them are CB that were handled from birth. I guess adults could possibly be tamed, but it would take a lot of work and many bites.
04/29/06  05:39pm

 #765069


Dweezle
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   Message To: Hummi   In reference to Message Id: 763951


 How grumpy are they?

mines were cb but I guess they just never got held its a shame but I dont really mind
04/30/06  03:25pm

 #766068


Hoppy
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   Message To: Dweezle   In reference to Message Id: 765069


 How grumpy are they?

They are extremely aggressive and very hard to read apparently. One day they may seem quite passive only to turn.
They are very interesing and lovely to look at. I have birds that I can’t hold, but I still receive alot of satisfaction and joy from owning them.
If you are experienced you would probably enjoy them and may be able to read them too. Some are more aggressive than others.
My info. comes from some that own them as I contemplated on getting one myself. But I’m not experienced enough at this time.
HOPPY
05/01/06  07:35am

 #777449


Smurfzilla
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   Message To: Hoppy   In reference to Message Id: 766068


 How grumpy are they?

ah well.. maybe down the road ill get get a youngish one and try raising it.. had my share of being bitten for now though.. (pills + bulldog)
05/08/06  08:07pm

 #853193


Lively
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   Message To: Smurfzilla   In reference to Message Id: 777449


 How grumpy are they?

hi,
i run a reptile shop, and put i this way mine were babys and now adults and i have never had any intrest what so ever in them being purchased. they are very very aggressive. however the are very very beautifull. i have got the trio up for £40 for all 3 which is bout $73. one of my staff is constantly being bit by them, and they get through two household rubbervgloves with bite! so be warned.
06/26/06  09:27pm

 #863610


Ross grant
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   Message To: Lively   In reference to Message Id: 853193


 How grumpy are they?

yip they chew ya good
07/02/06  08:13pm

 #1096789


Camo_pants
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   Message To: Ross grant   In reference to Message Id: 863610


 How grumpy are they?

those pics are crazy!!!! i’m bumping this thread
12/16/06  01:41am

 #1096994


LeapingLeo123
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   Message To: Camo_pants   In reference to Message Id: 1096789


 How grumpy are they?

wow I didnt know they could bite that hard!
12/16/06  11:23am

 #1097803


Rangus
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   Message To: LeapingLeo123   In reference to Message Id: 1096994


 How grumpy are they?

My girlfriend thought I had cut myself with a knife the first time she saw a bite wound on my hand from our Tokay. I don’t know if its to do with the shape of their teeth, but Tokay wounds are typically bleeders.
12/17/06  06:55am

 #1245499


Yuromastic
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   Message To: Rangus   In reference to Message Id: 1097803


 How grumpy are they?

Yeah, I seen my big male bite the head off a picky mouse clean. It was crazy. I hand feed mine most of the time and I’ve had him grab my thumb and put indentations in my nail. My female just kind of puffs up and growls a bit, but rarely bites. I think they are actually cool pets if you don’t mind a more hands off animal.



04/13/07  11:19pm

 #1489359


Camo_pants
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   Message To: Yuromastic   In reference to Message Id: 1245499


 How grumpy are they?

bump....
10/24/07  08:42pm

 #1491746


Osiris1980
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   Message To: Camo_pants   In reference to Message Id: 1489359


 How grumpy are they?

Yep, just very nervous breed. I can’t blaim them though...Mine run and hide when i come into my reptile room....Got to sneak up even to see them.
But mine are not agressive, only deffensive. They have to be really provoked. Mine have a lot of greenery to hide in and stuff t hide behind, so they have a home comfortable enough that they can hide rather than fight. Now if i start moving the stuff and trying to grab them and start feeling like their is not escape...it’s on.
10/26/07  09:48pm

 #1498424


Wickedeyeball
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   Message To: Smurfzilla   In reference to Message Id: 763291


 How grumpy are they?

tokays dont like being messed with they are for viewing purposes only if you want a gecko that you can hold get a leopard gecko or a bibron gecko



11/02/07  02:10am

 #1499971


SmellBell
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   Message To: Smurfzilla   In reference to Message Id: 763291


 How grumpy are they?

mine is pretty cool. i respect animals and their nature, but at the same time this is my pet, so i dont intrude by grabbing it and holding it and trying to train it. instead now and then i stroke it starting at its tail and then over time get closer to its back. i never tried stroking it from the head - i wont take that risk, but i can come at it from the side and back and pet its, tail, feet and up to its back, but thats as far as i personally go for now.
maybe one day it’ll get to the point of my stroking its head, who knows.... but patience.

when it starts to breathe heavily and looks back at me, and takes a few steps to walk off... i stop
its a relationship of mutual respect and understanding. lol
11/03/07  07:08pm

 #1500431


Camo_pants
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   Message To: SmellBell   In reference to Message Id: 1499971


 How grumpy are they?

yeah I don’t try to hold mine anymore. we have an understanding though. it’s cute if one of his branches falls down he will go to the other side of the tank and wait for me then i’ll stick it back up and then he goes back to his spot. He sticks to the front of the tank when he’s hungry.
11/03/07  11:34pm

 #1505866


Scruffles
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   Message To: Camo_pants   In reference to Message Id: 1500431


 How grumpy are they?

just got a new iggy but i have some experience with tokays, have them in my wildlife class at school, ive spent the last 8 weeks with them and i can pick them up without them biting me(unless someone previously pissed them off) but on most days both of them sit with me the whole 2 hours of class on my shoulder and look around, or they hide in my backpack, really cute cause they come out all black ^_^
11/08/07  12:25am

 #1506229


Camo_pants
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   Message To: Scruffles   In reference to Message Id: 1505866


 How grumpy are they?

LOL cool ! I’m definetly jealous ! sounds like they are very attached to you. Were they always friendly ?
11/08/07  12:11pm

 #1507876


Scruffles
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   Message To: Camo_pants   In reference to Message Id: 1506229


 How grumpy are they?

mm no not really i got bitten a lot, couple times had blood
11/09/07  09:03pm

 #1507881


Scruffles
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   Message To: Scruffles   In reference to Message Id: 1507876


 How grumpy are they?

my teacher was really impressed i spent the time to get them to be used to me....gave me some extra credit lol...im not complaining, i get them both over summer now too.....^_^

guess it just takes time and patience.....and pain tolerance lol....



11/09/07  09:07pm

 #1509535


Camo_pants
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   Message To: Scruffles   In reference to Message Id: 1507881


 How grumpy are they?

I really don’t want to get bit, I just leave him alone now. Even though I can’t hold him he is still one of my faves
11/11/07  11:07am

 #1509570


Scruffles
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   Message To: Camo_pants   In reference to Message Id: 1509535


 How grumpy are they?

mm yeah i laughed when i saw there care sheet

I am able to understand my pets agressiveness
I want a pet that does not like to be handled

the tokays in class are the total opposite.....
11/11/07  11:44am

 #1683107


Nagah
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   Message To: Scruffles   In reference to Message Id: 1509570


 How grumpy are they?

I know this is a relatively old thread....but from what I’m reading...are tokays REALLY that "UNTOUCHABLE"?

I managed to tame my 2 year old afrock (my retic doesn’t count...she LOVES human contact!) through consistent handling (never been tagged...but boy did he aim for my face!)....will this be "preparation" enough to tame tokays?

In other words, are tokays harder to tame than pythons?

Thanks
03/31/08  12:04am

 #1683367


Papa Brickhouse
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   Message To: Nagah   In reference to Message Id: 1683107


 How grumpy are they?

Hello... Tokays are naturally feisty and don’t like to be held!! I have 5 tokays... 3 of them are CB they came from my female, the female I got as adult, and the papa I got from a pet shop as a baby... They are all nice, duly because I handle mine daily... Heres a picture of me handling them!



03/31/08  10:43am

 #1683764


Meggheadd
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   Message To: Papa Brickhouse   In reference to Message Id: 1683367


 How grumpy are they?

thats kul i hope i can hold mine like that one day. I would think that being raised from hatch they would be more friendly. i have ahd mine for about a month and she has calmed down alot when we first got her she would come after you when you put your hand in the cage. now i can do what ever i want in there and even touch her tail . hoping to get babies so they could be held. but do not underestimate there bite i had two tagues that were a good size that wern’t as bad. its lik being bit by a little gator that won’t let go. But it seems that alot of people on this site are breeding them, mabye you can find one in your area to get a baby from.
03/31/08  04:20pm

 #1694098


Audio
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   Message To: Meggheadd   In reference to Message Id: 1683764


 How grumpy are they?

I’ve got mine much less nippy just over the 2 days since I got him. Maybe I’m just lucky but we’re gloves and let them bite all they want and just gently pet them and sort of move them around like you’re examining them. After awhile they’ll be less bothered by it and if they’re young so the bites don’t hurt, use your hand later on. They’ll be nervous at first cause it looks different, so you might get nipped. It’s also a good idea to carry them around maybe let them see other people a little. Nothing chaotic though. They’ll be stressed definitely but they’ll adapt.
04/08/08  01:05am


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