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 #1504403


Dinkanber
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 Texas Spiny Swift or lizard

I have one of these guys and I have been doing alot of reading and every once in a while i will come across a web site that says these are in the horned lizard family.So heres my questain.Do I need to treat her like a horned lizards or a swift?

Thanks

Lisa
11/06/07  10:14pm

 #1505603


Phrynosoma_Texas_FS3
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   Message To: Dinkanber   In reference to Message Id: 1504403


 Texas Spiny Swift or lizard

The websites are right, depending on which scientific taxon classification you want to follow. But I think you mis-spoke. To be accurate, Spiny or Swift lizards aren’t in the "Horned Lizard family" technically. Both HLs and Spiny/Swift Lizards are in the same family though. Phrynosomatidae family. Some others still go by the classification that places HLs in the Iguanidae family, and I tend to prefer this as I think there are more similarities between HLs and Iguanas than some other lizards, but either could be considerd correct depending on who you’re talking to or how old the reference is.

Horned Lizards are of the Phrynosoma genus however, and your Texas Spiny Lizard is in the genus Sceloporus.

Is this a wild lizard?

http://www.anapsid.org/swifts.html
11/07/07  08:58pm

 #1507900


Dinkanber
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   Message To: Phrynosoma_Texas_FS3   In reference to Message Id: 1505603


 Texas Spiny Swift or lizard

Yes I have two.One was being ate by a cat and is recovering nicely and one got into a fight with a weed wacker and is kinda touch and go at this point.Ive only had them a few days now .The weed wacker one .Is eating well but is more lathargic than the other one.Both are small.4 inches and 6 linches one has lost part of her tail.One is 6 grams and one is 8 greams.Here is the weed wacker one.She has some head trama.note the black eye



Lisa
11/09/07  09:26pm

 #1508057


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   Message To: Dinkanber   In reference to Message Id: 1507900


 Texas Spiny Swift or lizard

Are you using a veterinarian? Medical treatment for reptiles is not an uncomplicated thing and many reptiles die when well intentioned people treat them on their own without the background. How a reptile responds is a serious barometer of their condition, because they try to hide symptoms of illness and injury from predators. So, when a reptiles starts acting like it’s not in good shape, it is often fatal in a few days. Many vets that don’t specialize in reptiles aren’t sure what to do most times either.

I run a reptile rescue in Wichita Falls, Tx. and take in many injured lizards, turtles, and other animals needing treatment or homes. I have medical supplies and medicines. If you would like for them to have a better chance for recovery, you could express mail them to me. I do this all the time with sick or injured herps.

Wichita Falls Reptile Rescue
freewebs(dot)com/wichitafallsreptilerescue ( replace "dot" with ".". The filters here don’t like my freewebs website for some reason )



11/09/07  11:32pm

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Phrynosoma_Texas_FS3
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   Message To: Phrynosoma_Texas_FS3   In reference to Message Id: 1508057


 Texas Spiny Swift or lizard

No reply? Are you just looking for something to keep hostage? Or are you ligitimately wanting to make sure they survive?



11/13/07  03:08am

 #1512224


Dinkanber
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   Message To: Phrynosoma_Texas_FS3   In reference to Message Id: 1512118


 Texas Spiny Swift or lizard

I responded to your Pm
11/13/07  08:30am

 #1644805


Reedie
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   Message To: Dinkanber   In reference to Message Id: 1512224


 Texas Spiny Swift or lizard

Texas spinys are fun lizards to work with. Scelops are my favorite lizards, gotta love them.

Phrynosoma,
I caught interest when you said that you think that there are more similarities between HLs and iguanids than with other lizards. What are you comparing exactly? Just curious. I think that, morphologically, HLs are quite unique.

-Reed



03/02/08  01:37pm

 #1645554


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   Message To: Reedie   In reference to Message Id: 1644805


 Texas Spiny Swift or lizard

Yeah I breed them, they are so much fun!
3 years ago I caght a female texas spiny and it was so freindly I kept it for three years before releasing it.
It was six inches when I caght her and when I released her she was WAY over a foot.
resently I found her flattened by a car :( it was sad but I just got some to breed yesterday.
And also if any of yall could answer the ’problems!’ question that would be great!
03/02/08  11:00pm

 #1665002


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   Message To: Phrynosoma_Texas_FS3   In reference to Message Id: 1505603


  Spiny Swift ????

Would you repeat that for reptile freak? Or am i wrong, i have a Sceloporus Magister Magister and reptile freak tried to tell me he was not a swift he was a horned lizard. I am not going to lie, he understandably looks like a horny toad with a much more robust body, but he jumps around like a swift. SO what is he, you seem to know what you are talking about. Thanks Pictures coming soon got to figure out how to make them smaller



03/17/08  07:23pm

 #1666427


Reedie
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   Message To: MagisterN8   In reference to Message Id: 1665002


  Spiny Swift ????

MagisterN8,
Me? I would need pics for a proper identification.

-Reed
03/18/08  08:18pm

 #1669136


Reptilefreak23
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   Message To: Reedie   In reference to Message Id: 1666427


  Spiny Swift ????

I did not say it was a horned lizy,
(That would be stupid)

I said that the swift forum wouldnt no a question about your spiny, and I said to try the fence lzard forum
(closest thing to spiny), or the horned lizard forum becuz they were able to help me out
03/20/08  07:56pm

 #1669139


Reptilefreak23
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   Message To: Reedie   In reference to Message Id: 1666427


  Spiny Swift ????

I said it was a ’SPINY LIZARD’ not horny
sry if we had miscumunication though
03/20/08  07:58pm

 #1673969


MagisterN8
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   Message To: Reptilefreak23   In reference to Message Id: 1669139


  Spiny Swift ????

SORRY ABOUT THE MISUNDERSTANDINGS



03/24/08  02:37pm


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