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#185527
Leokeeper
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Ok made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what? 
Hey, I made "Jynx’s" juvinale/sub adult cage, I have sealed it and put some caulking in the cracks around the edges on the floor...... its been done for two days now and its in the garage.... the smell of the sealer & caulking wont go away..... what do I do to get the smell to leave? its deffintly not as strong as it was when I first put it on but.... I was planning on bringing it inside in a few days... but can’t if the smell is still strong.... what did all of you do? and if there is a light smell is it ok to put my green iguana in it or does the smell have to be completly gone?Thanks for any help in advacne.
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11/20/04 4:57pm
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#186822
Hammer
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Message To: Leokeeper In reference to Message Id: 185527
Ok made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
Hey LeoWhat kind of caulking did you use? Was it Latex? As long as it’s dry, you’ll be fine. Latex dries quickly, whereas an oil based caulk will take longer and be sloppier to work with. Latex takes less than an hour to dry; 24 to cure. ..The smell does "not" have to be completely gone.
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11/22/04 1:41pm
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#186863
Leokeeper
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Message To: Hammer In reference to Message Id: 186822
Ok made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
Thanks, well the gargage still stinks like the sealer... its been a good week since I sealed it thou, I Caulked it about five days ago, so will the smell hurt him?
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11/22/04 3:11pm
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#187289
Drugdude
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Message To: Leokeeper In reference to Message Id: 185527
Ok made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
When I built my cages I put them outside for a few days. I use to be a painter and the sealer will take a while to air. You should wait till almost if not all of the smell is gone. Reps have sensitive respiratory and fumes can cause long term damage.
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11/23/04 12:51am
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#187379
Hammer
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Message To: Leokeeper In reference to Message Id: 186863
Ok made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
It’ll be fine. Any residual fumes last only a short time. There’s a difference between fumes and smell. Fumes will harm your reptile, but smell is ok.
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11/23/04 6:03am
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#187570
Drugdude
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Message To: Hammer In reference to Message Id: 187379
OK made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
I’m starting to see that we dint see eye to eye on several situations. If you as a human inhale certain odors for a long period of time you can develop diseases from it. I am a Narcotics Officer for a drug task force and deal with chemical smells and odors all the time (do to the fact that I am a meth lab tech.). I also have a minor in chemistry. I would say that that would qualify me to distinguish the difference between smell vs fumes. If a reptile is exposed to a chemical smell for even several days it can and will cause long term ailments. I am not saying that the lizard will die tomorrow, but it will cause difficulties in the future. Just out of curiosity Hammer, can you tell me how many parts per million the sealer that was used contains and how long it takes to completely dissipate? When you can tell me that, then maybe I’ll put one of my reps in a container with hazardous smells. I’ll keep posting so you can tell everyone that I dint know what I’m talking about and try to overrule me. This should be an interesting time.
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11/23/04 4:50pm
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#187575
Hammer
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Message To: Drugdude In reference to Message Id: 187570
OK made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
Any time someone tries to pass themselves off as an expert like you just did, to me, he’s more impressed with himself than getting to the truth....If her iguana dies, I’ll buy her a new one. How’s that for confidence Mr Drug lord? Plus, I just hate cops, sorry...
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11/23/04 4:59pm
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#187590
Drugdude
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Message To: Hammer In reference to Message Id: 187575
OK made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
By the conversation we are having, I can imagine why you hate cops. I bet you hate drug cops the most. As far as passing myself off as an expert to impress myself, I don’t have to impress anyone with what I do, but when I see that someone is giving advise on something they know nothing about, I like to compare knowledge and make sure that people don’t take needless chances because of the advise of an amateur. I’m sure she is feels really secure knowing that you will replace her pet. I’m also sure that she feels really confident in taking advice about Iguanas from someone who openly posts that he hates Iguanas. Be really careful around those venomous reps you keep, I would want you to get struck  By the way its Mr. drugdude, I put Mr. druglords in prison!!!!! 
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11/23/04 5:32pm
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#187705
Hammer
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Message To: Drugdude In reference to Message Id: 187590
OK made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
You’re a cop, same difference. Anyone who would take advice from a Narc has no one to blame but themselves. Yes, I could debate your flawed logic and absurd advice, but I feel dirty already. Please, when you see my post, stay away from it and I’ll stay away from yours. I don’t even want to engage in casual conversation with the likes of you.
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11/23/04 7:39pm
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#187747
Drugdude
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Message To: Hammer In reference to Message Id: 187705
OK made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
That really hurts coming from what I’m sure is an upstanding citizen like yourself. And the cure to feeling dirty is taking a shower you should try it.
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11/23/04 8:32pm
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#187850
Leokeeper
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Message To: Hammer In reference to Message Id: 186822
Ok made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
Ok I’ve brought it inot my room because tis been in the garage for over a week.... now its in my room and i can smell the sealer & caluking... I cnat bring it back out it was too hard to get in.... is it ok if me, my iguanan,s bearde dragon, leopard gecko,s black lab, birds & guinea pig inhale this smell? I am covering the cage with a old sheet to try to contain the smell until I can air the room better in the morning, any advance would be helpful.
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11/23/04 11:14pm
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#187862
Leokeeper
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Message To: Hammer In reference to Message Id: 186822
Ok made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
ok for some reason it says there 10 posts in my posting... but I can only see my two posts and hammers post..... not sure whay maye all who posted could try again or private message me?
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11/23/04 11:20pm
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#187919
Drugdude
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Message To: Leokeeper In reference to Message Id: 187862
Ok made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
When I built my cages I put them outside for a few days. I use to be a painter and the sealer will take a while to air. You should wait till almost if not all of the smell is gone. Reps have sensitive respiratory and fumes can cause long term damage.
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11/24/04 2:44am
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#188341
Pamula
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Message To: Drugdude In reference to Message Id: 187919
Ok made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
I thought Hammer was an a** monkey when he responded to an earlier post of mine (or vice versa) but now I’d trust his opinion over 99% of the people that post on this site. I believe he’s probably not such a bad guy once you get to know him. Give it time, you’ll come around....I have absolutely no opinion on the sealing and caulking thing. Use your own judgement, Leo.
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11/24/04 7:44pm
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#188458
Xta
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Message To: Pamula In reference to Message Id: 188341
Ok made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
Although I like Hammer just fine, I have to go with Drugdude on this one. Smells do mean fumes to some extent and why risk harm to yourself and animals? You should put the cage outside and let it air out longer. If it was in your garage, it is not getting enough fresh air. A replacement ig is hardly compesation if you happen to like the ig you have now. They are not all the same....
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11/24/04 9:51pm
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#188660
Hammer
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Message To: Xta In reference to Message Id: 188458
Ok made the cage..... sealed it, caulked it...now what?
I think ultimately it’s a judgment call. I can see you wanting to err on the side of caution, so I’m not in disagreement with you on doing that. My thought is that fumes can hurt, but mere smell is another story. You can say that what you smell are essentially fumes, but not really. I have a product called “Provent-a-Mite,” which gets rid of mites. You remove the animal and water dish, spray it down with the aerosol can and wait until the fumes die down before placing the animal back in. That’s a good example of suspended particles that can cause harm. Once the mist settles, you can still smell the agent, but it’s not harmful to the animal. You can smell a rose, but it’s not because of fumes. Leo used what I assume was Latex silicone caulk. Curing time is 24 hours, although you can touch it within literally minutes of application. In a week’s time, the agent is cured and there are no fumes emitted at that point. The smell she perceived is probably residual vapor trapped in the garage. Just moving the enclosure to an inside room would probably eliminate any trace of odor. After week, the silicone is dry, cured and ready for any designed use. The smell is not due to the applied caulk and surely there are no suspended particles of silicone or the curing agent. Having said all of that, all reptiles have an elevated sense of smell compared to us. There are many suspended trace particles that they perceive that we can’t. Plus every day cooking and other emissions are probably more harmful than a lingering smell in a garage from the caulking gun. But, like I said, there’s no problem in waiting if there is any question. I’ve worked with chemical agents before in the military and through development of military combat equipment. I am no expert and don’t intend to pass myself off as such, but from studies I’ve seen on chemical agents, the risk posed by cured silicone on an iguana is as slim as it gets. But until a specific study using an iguana and silicone is conducted, it’s all suspect to what we trust to be correct.
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11/25/04 11:08am
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