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 #107173


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 Pic of my giant pill bug!

Have you seen one of these, i got it at a maryland expo. Its called a giant pill bug but i cant seem to find much info on them. Its exactly like a giant rolly polly, it rolls into a ball when it feels threatened, here are pics of it out at night crawling around, take a look!






pretty cool huh?



07/26/04  03:27pm

 #107491


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  Message To: FutureCROChunter   In reference to Message Id: 107173


 Pic of my giant pill bug!

AHHHHHHHHH!....DUDE UR CRAZY!...lol!a few questions:
-what does it eat?
-how long is it actually?
-what do u do w/ it?
-does it bite?
-what were u thinking?...LOL JK JK!
overall man, awesome!i find the lil grey ones under rocks wenever i look and they freek me out so tell me aboutt hem so i’m informed!i’m guessing they’re decomposers so their setup and stuff would be like hissin roaches?



07/26/04  11:22pm

 #107862


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  Message To: Anole_keeper   In reference to Message Id: 107491


 Pic of my giant pill bug!

lol, the guy said it eats smushed peas, but other vegetables as well.
im not sure how long it lives...
you just keep it as a pet it awesome, they are nocturnal so they come out at night.
But when you pick it up it rolls into a ball so i dont think it bites.
I was thinking it would be a cool insect for the shows me and my friend do for little kids and stuff. Well i dont think, their setup consists of a moist moss floor and thats about it, they dig down into the moss. Buuuut i have bad news.......he died yesterday, im not sure how. The guy didnt tell me how long they lived.



07/27/04  01:40pm

 #107904


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  Message To: FutureCROChunter   In reference to Message Id: 107862


 Pic of my giant pill bug!

OMG!?...very sorry to hear that!



07/27/04  02:22pm

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  Message To: Anole_keeper   In reference to Message Id: 107904


 Pic of my giant pill bug!

That’s a cool looking bug ... my son would love it!! He’s a bug freak, pickes up everything.



08/31/04  08:34pm

 #136313


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  Message To: MrGreen   In reference to Message Id: 133392


 Pic of my giant pill bug!

I did a search on them and heres what came up

"Pill Millipede Care Sheet

Please see the bottom of this page for an IMPORTANT update
The pill millipede is a fascinating creature. In fact, it is many fascinating creatures as there are actually many species from diverse localities including Madagascar, Malagasy, and Tanzania among others. At this time, little is known of the specific requirements of each individual species and/or subspecies. Some species are rumored to survive only upon native fungi and algae. Our experience so far with the species that we have worked with has not confirmed this to be a requirement. We are not attempting to invalidate the experience of others but simply to demonstrate what has been working well for us.

Substrate is definitely crucial with pill millipedes. Substrate is in fact currently the sole diet of our pill millipedes. Our substrate consists of a mixture of potting soil, peat moss, and large quantities of leaves and extremely well rotted wood. The more wood the better! When we say ’well rotted’ wood, we mean wood rotted sufficiently such that you can take it apart easily with your fingers. Woods we have used include oak, aspen, cottonwood, and mesquite. Woods we do not recommend with any millipedes are pine, cedar, redwood and cypress. All of these have natural chemicals which can be potentially mutagenic and toxic, particularly over extended periods of time. We keep basically the equivalent of an aged compost pile within the enclosure, adding fresh material from time to time. Keep the substrate four or more inches deep and damp, but not wet. The depth of the substrate does not appear to be used by the millipede for burrowing but is quite useful in maintaining an environment conducive to decomposition. Rotten wood the consistency of wet sawdust clumps is particularly greedily consumed. Composted sawdust may be worthwhile to experiment with in the future in an effort to bypass the intervening stages of decomposition. We have just discovered that the rotten wood of the joshua tree is extremely readily eaten. Anyone with a local source of this wood should consider it as it is a pill millipede magnet such as we have not seen before.

Temperature does not seem to be critical, though it may be more so for breeding. Temperatures in the 75 to 80 degree range work well. Humidity can be added through daily misting and by covering the tank relatively tightly. This also assists in the decomposition of the wood and other organic material. A water dish may be necessary for temperature/humidity levels that do not produce condensation on the sides of the enclosure.

Pill millipedes have a reputation of being poor eaters and starving to death. For us, nothing has been farther from the truth. Having kept or sold large quantities, we have never had any captives die of natural causes. However, these creatures do require special measures when shipping. Due to the spherical nature they assume when disturbed, they can roll around as the package is shifted, becoming dented and smashed like so many hard boiled eggs. Pack the inner shipping container relatively well with a sterile medium such as moist vermiculite to minimize this shifting during shipping.

There is also some confusion as to how to easily distinguish a pill millipede from a pill bug. The simplest method is that a pill millipede can tuck its head into the ball, whereas the pill bug cannot.

With a bit of forethought as to the substrate, we find pill millipedes to be an easy to care for and fascinating captive. We think you will too.

Update: A group of people got together sometime after the writing of this care sheet and bought pill millipedes at the same time in an effort to compare notes. The results were quite worthy of reporting. Everyone in the group, including us, reported the starvation of their pill millipedes within a period of a couple months. The group collectively tried all kinds of solutions with many repurchasing lots of pill millipedes to verify same. None of the subsequent attempts were successful either. As of now, two theories predominate. The first is that these millipedes, living in rainforest, have algae growing on the forest floor from which they feed as a sole diet. To us, this does not seem a likely explanation and we have come up with another. Several people in the group reported that their millipedes experienced the most intense die offs as the temperature rose, even though these temperatures were relatively low. These millipedes appear to feed avidly upon woods such as that of the Joshua Tree, and yet they still starve to death, so we investigated other word feeders, namely termites and wood feeding cockroaches. Both of these creatures have microorganisms in their digestive tracts that do the actual work of digesting wood for them. Turns out that in some species, these microorganisms are extremely heat sensitive, and that even moderate temperatures (mid 70s) can kill them, leaving their hosts unable to process their own food, passing it through undigested and thus slowly starving to death. It is this that we believe is happening to the pill millipedes. Though there are a few dealers that still sell pill millipedes, they admit that they do not know of the proper diet to keep them alive either. For us, selling animals that are doomed to certain death is not our philosophy, and for this reason we have decided not to carry pill millipedes. Anyone buying them from other sources should be made aware that they are likely encouraging the importation of an exotic animal for the purpose of certain death within a short period of time." Thats to bad because these milipedes are awesome.



09/04/04  09:30pm

 #136527


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  Message To: 00Penguin   In reference to Message Id: 136313


 Pic of my giant pill bug!

Great post Penguin!!
I wonder ???? Hey CROC, Is the Pill still alive? do you ever see it eat, if so what?



09/05/04  04:38am

 #136686


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  Message To: MrGreen   In reference to Message Id: 136527


 Pic of my giant pill bug!

he said it is dead.



09/05/04  01:01pm

 #315846


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  Message To: 00Penguin   In reference to Message Id: 136686


 Pic of my giant pill bug!

sorry to here of your loss ! how much did it cost ?



04/19/05  06:29pm


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