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 SWEETIE PIE

eastern girl




05/09/08  10:16am

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   Message To: L.ROY   In reference to Message Id: 1730176


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Thats an Eastern now i know what you were on about the other day
05/09/08  11:18am

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stick around this is the best site with the least troublemakers.
you can learn anything you need to know about kingsnakes here.
05/09/08  11:32am

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   Message To: L.ROY   In reference to Message Id: 1730233


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I was waiting for some easterns. I saw the breeding pics, but I’m always good for seeing more of these beauties
05/09/08  03:23pm

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i am sooooo crazy about easterns i think it’s an affliction.
05/09/08  04:01pm

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Easterns are very beautiful. L.ROY, you have given me an idea for the next snake I get.
-Amelia
05/09/08  04:21pm

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Very nice!!!

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i am sooooo crazy about easterns


Talking about an Eastern obsession, I FINALLY got a copy of the paper that places Easterns in Pa. Basically it’s based on sightings and possilble viable habitat. NO actual specimens. One thing the author used as evidence was an Archeological movie made in Southern Lancaster County Pa. where a snake was caught on sight and filmed for 16 seconds. He said that he enlarged the film segment but still couldn’t make a conclusive ID. So, Easterns enhabiting Pa seem to be more a myth than actual proven fact. ;)
05/09/08  04:33pm

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   Message To: Lampro   In reference to Message Id: 1730475


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arn’t they on the border? i’m sure they can invade.
05/09/08  05:37pm

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The closest specimen IS recorded about 8 miles south of the border. So, it’s not completely impossible for them to move up the drainage area into Pa. (he actually uses this in his argument) But, at this point, there’s no REAL proof they ever did. Even the state considers them extirpated.

Silence: Your from Lancaster County right? I could PM you the location of the Archeological site where they found that snake. Maybe you could find the rare and elusive Pa. King!!! LOL



05/09/08  06:29pm

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   Message To: Lampro   In reference to Message Id: 1730576


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was a fossil getula found? how old?
05/09/08  06:31pm

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None that I KNOW OF. He doesn’t state any type of fossils, just the inconclusive film specimen and another uncomfirmed sighting.



05/09/08  06:37pm

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   Message To: Lampro   In reference to Message Id: 1730586


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do you know of any good paleo maps of 80,000-100,000 yrs ago?
05/09/08  06:40pm

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Like this? Shows the rock formation date "stamps" Link
Or this? Link
05/09/08  07:05pm

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L.ROY
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   Message To: Lampro   In reference to Message Id: 1730608


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how about sea levels of the U.S. and Mex.? at the height of the last ice age, what was it 60,000-80,000 yrs ago?
05/09/08  07:19pm

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   Message To: L.ROY   In reference to Message Id: 1730626


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I actually looked for maps like that awhile back when researching the Blaney paper I believe it was, but I came up empty. I THINK it was Blaney who proposed that Cali Kings reached the Cape region during an Ice age when sea levels were much lower. I think this is also how they reached the islands in the Sea of Cortez, along with splendida along the opposite coast. Considering Easterns are more of a lower elevation species I’d THINK that they’d retreat rather than expand their range during an Ice age where sea levels would be lower and elevations higher in the northern part of the range. But, who knows? ;)
05/10/08  12:00am

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   Message To: Lampro   In reference to Message Id: 1730807


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i guess i’m gonna have to buy that $80 book, pretty sure it will help me.
05/10/08  07:48am


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