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#552333
HerpHobo
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Out of curosity.... 
Who here actually owns a komodo dragon? Does anyone actually have a pic? God i cant imagine owning one! Im a beginner owner ( of frogs, fish and a gecko) and would like to see enclosures for them. Hey dont u also have to a ton of paperwork and have to have the enclosure inspected before the dragons arrival? LETS SEE WHOS CRAZY ENOUGH.
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11/23/05 05:22pm
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#552730
SHvar
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Message To: HerpHobo In reference to Message Id: 552333
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
Only those approved by the National Zoo, the International Komodo conservancy are permitted to keep them. Consider that all komodos are property of the Government of Indonesia and Presidential decree, can only be offered to instituitions proving their goal is to further conservation, and captive propogation for the better of the species and to keep them out of the publics hands, they are considered as dangerous animals in most places like Tigers and Lions.
The only 3 privately housed specimens are in instituitions that have regular visits by the public such as privately owned zoo/gardens.
No one has a pet komodo (varanus komodensis), if they tell you they do, they are full of it. They are Indonesias national Treasure.
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11/24/05 12:27am
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#553060
HerpHobo
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Message To: SHvar In reference to Message Id: 552730
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
Then if no one actually owns one then why is there a forum of it? Do people just show off pics of ones kept in zoos. Yeah i know what u mean by full of it i read a bunch of posts of people who say they want one or has one..... retards.
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11/24/05 01:26pm
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#555126
Spartan34
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Message To: HerpHobo In reference to Message Id: 553060
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
honestly, if people cant take care of igs, they wont be able to take care of komodo dragons, i work in the conservation biology and research department at the zoo and its not permitted to have someone own a komodo, you would be an idiot if you actually wanted one, you would have to buy a rabbit everyday to feed it, not going to be cheap to keep it and to get one anyways...honestly you are really dumb if you want to even consider owning one...here are pics of the ones i work with in their enclosure for baby komodos, not full grown ones. The cage was 8 feet long by 6 feet high by 4 feet wide, have fun trying to build a cage that big
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11/26/05 11:53am
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#603314
Kanole5
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Message To: Spartan34 In reference to Message Id: 555126
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
What do you feed them?
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01/12/06 06:50pm
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#604073
Razeraze
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Message To: Kanole5 In reference to Message Id: 603314
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
from large pigs to small children. depends on the size of the komodo.
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01/13/06 12:43pm
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#607512
Spartan34
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Message To: Razeraze In reference to Message Id: 604073
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
we feed them a specialized gelatin in the form of a sausage. If we were to feed live, we feed them whole chickens and sometimes rabbits. THey are insane eaters, we have to use 2 feet long tongs when feeding just to safe. Dont even talk about owning one, they dont deserve to be domesticated, they are wild animals and they should stay wild.
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01/15/06 09:26pm
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#607820
SHvar
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Message To: Spartan34 In reference to Message Id: 607512
Hmm, so which brand is it?
Mazuri crocodilian-gel, Mazuri carnivorous reptile/amphibian gel, ectotherm (never got a single lizard to ever eat this stuff), or another brand?
I would rather use something that I know works with varanids, or at least base their diet off of whole animals then add other foods to it. I understand it can get difficult to keep up with a growing large varanids appetite but it pays off in the end to do it right. Dont get me wrong, I dont see anything wrong with alternative diets in addition to a good proven diet, just not as the only food source.
So which instituition do you work with? That young dragon looks like it can put away the food.
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01/16/06 03:42am
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#608223
Razeraze
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Message To: Spartan34 In reference to Message Id: 607512
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
Spartan34
Quote: Dont even talk about owning one, they dont deserve to be domesticated, they are wild animals and they should stay wild. do you feel this way about everyone who owns a monitor. how about a constrictor snake. last time i checked they were all cosidered wild.
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01/16/06 01:38pm
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#610783
Spartan34
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Message To: Razeraze In reference to Message Id: 608223
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
no i only feel that way to species listed as threatened. Im not against owning a sav monitor as a pet or even a water monitor, its just that wild populations of some species are declining and i get so furious when people try to domesticate certain animals, that really needs to be out in the wild. For example, blanchards cricket frogs. In canada, we busted our smarty pants to try to find one on peelee island for research. THe last confirmed siting was in 1996. We rescued around 20 from someone who was keeping them. However, in captivity we only have 2 left, due to their 3 year life span. It was because of keeping them in captivity, they were not able to breed properly and now we are down to our last two cricket frogs for captive breeding, but that can not happen because the two that are left are males. Once, these two die of old age, it may take years for us to find another bunch of cricket frog for research.
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01/18/06 01:37pm
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#610789
Spartan34
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Message To: Spartan34 In reference to Message Id: 610783
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
SHvar, as for the sausage, our nutrionists have grinded up everything into that form of a sausage, its not a commercial diet. We foudn it much easier to feed and easier to store so thats why we have it in the form of a sausage. All vitamins and nutrients are in that sausage. And yes, that guy packs away the food like theres no tomorrow. Hes gone from the health unit that i was working in, he was shipped to the minnesota zoo along with 6 of our other baby dragons (actually two were teens).
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01/18/06 01:42pm
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#612451
AciD_RaiN
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Message To: Spartan34 In reference to Message Id: 555126
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
"The cage was 8 feet long by 6 feet high by 4 feet wide, have fun trying to build a cage that big "
i know people who have built bigger cages than that for their iggys :) i’m building an enclosure for my boa that measures 7 feet long4 feet high and 3 feet wide ... that’s no broblem 
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01/19/06 07:26pm
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#612877
Spartan34
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Message To: AciD_RaiN In reference to Message Id: 612451
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
HAHAH for me my cage of 5 feet by 5 feet by 4 feet was so annoying to build, let alone bringing it into the house. I have no carpentry skills whatsoever. Ive decided this cage that i built should stay outside, too big to fit through the door. I guess its easy to build a large enclosure for some people, but for me i found it difficult to build a small enclosure.
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01/19/06 11:41pm
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#612882
Razeraze
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Message To: Spartan34 In reference to Message Id: 612877
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
building big sucks. i don’t know how we are going to get ours out of this apartment and into a house  
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01/19/06 11:44pm
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Spartan34
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Message To: Razeraze In reference to Message Id: 612882
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
break down a wall, ahahaa, i remember when we were moving into our house, we almost destroyed our house trying to get it in! Same thing with the new refrigerator.
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01/21/06 11:59pm
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#618283
Pugmar
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Message To: Razeraze In reference to Message Id: 612882
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
Hey razer, why dont you just take them apart and rebuild them in a new house?
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01/23/06 07:41pm
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#618311
Razeraze
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Message To: Pugmar In reference to Message Id: 618283
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
that is what we are thinking but what will the animals live in while we tear them apart and reconstruct them. these things took weeks to build and we at least take a day each to tear down and put together. that is if we have no problems likes screws pulling out of the wood or plexiglass breaking during the move. it is quit a pickel.
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01/23/06 07:53pm
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#619314
Mikk
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Message To: Razeraze In reference to Message Id: 618311
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
cant you go to the vet and get a small dose of a Tranquilizer tat lasts only a few hours. or get one of those dog cage crates, lure it in the let it go in the new enclosure. hope that helps.
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01/24/06 02:33pm
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#620845
Razeraze
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Message To: Mikk In reference to Message Id: 619314
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
we don’t have to drug them we can put them in dog crates but we would have to be able to provide food/water and heat for the time it takes us to rebuild their cages. we might have to set up a temporary cage and move animals one at a time.
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01/25/06 03:26pm
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#621340
Pugmar
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Message To: Razeraze In reference to Message Id: 620845
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
Yeah that would work but couldnt you house a couple in one enclosure just for the time being?
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01/25/06 08:39pm
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#622041
Razeraze
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Message To: Pugmar In reference to Message Id: 621340
Thats easy, go to any zoo that keeps them..
no they would find away to kill eachother.
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01/26/06 12:57pm
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