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#574886

Lizardman460000
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Owning one

does anyone in this forum own a komdo dragon???????? i dont

12/16/05 06:30pm

#574924

Razeraze
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Message To: Lizardman460000 In reference to Message Id: 574886

Owning one

i don’t think anyone owns one because of the strict laws but i think there is a person who works with them at a zoo. they are beautiful though aren’t they. i bet people would own them if they could. hopefuly only the people who realy love monitors.

12/16/05 07:06pm

#575038

Lizardman460000
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Message To: Razeraze In reference to Message Id: 574924

Owning one

i would like to see the enclosure of a dragon outside a zoo

12/16/05 09:37pm

#575400

SHvar
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Message To: Lizardman460000 In reference to Message Id: 575038

Just as Razerace said there are none.

Outside zoos, and a few gardens open to the public.

12/17/05 11:39am

#582878

R.Vilches3
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Message To: SHvar In reference to Message Id: 575400

Just as Razerace said there are none.

If any one wanted a huge lizard like a komodo dragon, they should just get a blckthroat monitor, a water monitor, or a croc monitor ,they aren’t as dangerous and could reach hughe sizes, and are relatives of the komodo

12/25/05 06:09pm

#583173

SHvar
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Message To: R.Vilches3 In reference to Message Id: 582878

LOL, like this one..

Shes my little baby. My hybrid whitethroat.
Walking in front of a medium sized monitors cage.

Picture from inside of her cage..

I dont think Id want a bigger sized or heavier lizard, especially a bigger heavier monitor, shes so sweet though.

12/26/05 03:20am

#584785

Darthkar
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Message To: SHvar In reference to Message Id: 583173

LOL, like this one..

Wow........ SHaver........ did it ever bite you? It looks like it could swallow people whole! Kiwi my chinise water dragon is like nothing in comparasin to him.

12/27/05 09:07pm

#584911

Spic
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Message To: Darthkar In reference to Message Id: 584785

LOL, like this one..

ive only heard horror stories of people owning real ones, like them living in basements and never getting care because people are to afraid to get close, i dont really blame the fear but ive never heard a story of them living and being treated well in a home, so ya i think its really stupid for someone to own one, its just not worth all the SH$T youdd have to put up with and no one wants to mistreat an animal

12/27/05 10:43pm

#585484

SHvar
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Message To: Darthkar In reference to Message Id: 584785

No, shes never attempted to bite a person.

But she has attempted to bite a dog once, I pushed the overfriendly pooch away quickly. Ive been bit by 2ft, 3ft, 4ft-10lb, and 4.5ft-10-11lb albigs, but never any larger. She could swallow my arm from hand to elbow Im sure, but has no interest in doing this.

12/28/05 02:59pm

#788078

Kobebryant
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Message To: SHvar In reference to Message Id: 585484

No, shes never attempted to bite a person.

hey beautiful throat monitor did you have him or her from a baby and how big is he or she right now also i hear argentine black and white tegus are cool any info on them thanks billy.

05/16/06 02:45am

#788933

Razeraze
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Message To: Kobebryant In reference to Message Id: 788078

No, shes never attempted to bite a person.

if you have owned all of these
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hello savanah’s are the best to have i had 2 of them i had 1 nile i had 1 black throat and 1 very very cool croc monitor i have been bitten once in 4 years not
i am sure a tegu is pretty easy compared to a croc monitor.

05/16/06 05:48pm

#796499

Twitch3
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Message To: Razeraze In reference to Message Id: 788933

No, shes never attempted to bite a person.

a buddy of mine owns a black&white tegu.I`m not sure of temp i think 86-94 and they need UVB.my buddy feeds his 2-4 medium mice every other day.considering their size,as long as they aren`t hungry,they are good for handling.just don`t PI$$ them off.they may not be able to eat your arm,but they can give a good love bite...remember that i`m not 100% sure about this but it is what i could remember

05/21/06 12:56pm

#841530

Mikelo
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Message To: Lizardman460000 In reference to Message Id: 574886

Owning one

i have 12 in my basement... a lot of feeder rats

06/20/06 03:46pm

#862548

Paleo_master
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Message To: Mikelo In reference to Message Id: 841530

Owning one

Komodo Dragons can take down deer, wild pigs and even cattle. their saliva is extreamly toxic and thick with bacteria from all the rotting meat they consume and can easily kill any animal with a single infectious bite. even if they could be owned legally the fact that they see humans as possible prey items and can easily out run a man would make them an all around horrible pet (unless your suicidal). And unless some one happens to have a steady supply of dead deer, KDs would be just too hard to feed properly. They need lots of room and can easily climb over or dig under many different kinds of fencing. if a breeding pair accidentally escapes into the wild they could breed and create a predatory monopoly over the enviroment and unbalence the ecosystem. the list just goes on and on about why they should never be kept as pets.

07/02/06 02:49am

#866628

Razeraze
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Message To: Paleo_master In reference to Message Id: 862548

Owning one

i would own one if they were not endangered. why not i already own a lizard that can get 7-9 feet of the same family.

07/04/06 06:10pm

#881913

SHvar
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Message To: Paleo_master In reference to Message Id: 862548

Ok, this was a good one...

Where did you get this stuff from
"and can easily out run a man"
No, a healthy adult human can outrun a komodo any day, they are reputed to be able to run about a fast jogging speed for a healthy human for periods of time.

"unless some one happens to have a steady supply of dead deer, KDs would be just too hard to feed properly. They need lots of room and can easily climb over or dig under many different kinds of fencing. if a breeding pair accidentally escapes into the wild they could breed and create a predatory monopoly over the enviroment and unbalence the ecosystem"

This one came from someone watching too many bad horror movies. They are fed rodents and some other meats in zoos that keep them sucessfully and have them reproduce, deer are not needed at all.
They do need lots of room, but mamals require much more. As for fences, any monitor species can climb fences, why do you think they are alos kept in climate controlled glass enclosures, mostly for a proper environment, some is toi prevent climbing. Adult komodos do not climb well at all, they are on the goround most of the time at that point, no need to go into trees after they become adults.
next, the ecosystem in all except a few places in the world would not be in trouble with komodos running loose.
Oh, the article on monitors and venom, they were working with and studying Aussie monitors, komodos, a few Asian species. As far as I remember and from asking Brian Fry myself African monitors were never tested, and most Asian species were never tested. The highest readings came from some dwarf Aussie species, and the Perentie. I can tell you from experience that Aussie species produce side effects that are different than any other monitors Ive beed bit by before them, it takes a few days for some people to get rid of some of those effects from a decent sized specimens bite.

07/13/06 12:40pm

#889872

Boalady
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Message To: SHvar In reference to Message Id: 881913

Ok, this was a good one...

I agree with Shvar. They are not runners. They can run but prefer to lie in wait for their prey. After a good bite full of toxins they usually just follow the sent trail left by the dying animal. It could take as many as three days for a large animal to dye. My understanding is that they are not so much of a fighting with their prey kind of animal unless it is small.
I don’t believe these lizards regard humans as prey. There are serious conservation efforts going on to protect these animals and humans live among them. I watched a thing about them that even said they take tourists out to where the dragons are to look at them. I’ve seen video footage of people standing just a few feet from them. They sometimes stray into populated areas but I think they are more likely to dig through your garbage or eat your dog then go after you if they are hungry.
Also they are very arboreal as hatchlings, but as soon as they are large enough to no be eaten by their own kind that stops. If you have ever seen video of an adult Komodo trying to climb a tree because it smells something good in it, its very pathetic.
I’m not saying these animals aren’t dangerous, certainly they are! I just think they are more like the wolf, in the since that for a long time they were feared and hated because people thought they were routhless killers but now that people understand how badly they were misjudged their is a different feeling about them.

07/17/06 09:48pm

#890308

SHvar
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Message To: Boalady In reference to Message Id: 889872

In some ways you are wrong ..

They can and will take on large prey items and sometimes kill on the first attack. A 7ft komodo can attack and kill a salt water deer that its several hundred lbs or a similar or heavier weight pig and kill it in minutes.
In fact many 9ft plus males can and do kill water bufalo by themselves, at that size they do not fear anything in their range.
Humans are considered a food source if they get a hold of you as adults, mainly large males. After all I have pictures of a 9ft male swallowing a 6ft female he just chased down and killed in a bad year.
Most times as any predator they have off days, and arent as sucessful as faster mammal predators, but there have been humans consumed by komodos.
They eat whatever comes along, from other komodos, to venomous snakes (all of them), pythons, pigs, goats, etc etc.
They are designed to go without food as adults for a long time, this is a survival feature, there isnt always enough suitable prey most of the year in their home range.

07/18/06 02:02am

#890325

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Message To: SHvar In reference to Message Id: 890308

In some ways you are wrong ..

interesting, sounds like I need to do more studying. I made an assumption that they were developing a tolerance to human presence do to the conservation efforts and growth of population based on some stuff I have seen and read. Also I have no doubt about their killing ability but isn’t a komodo attacking and killing something like a deer the exception rather than the rule? Its all about expending the least amount of energy right?

07/18/06 02:23am

#943059

R_rhoads
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Message To: Lizardman460000 In reference to Message Id: 574886

Owning one

Spartan34 has a picture of a baby komodo.

08/16/06 09:58pm

#1162063

Oxyuranus s. canni
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Message To: Lizardman460000 In reference to Message Id: 574886

Owning one

I doubt your gonna find someone with a Komodo Dragon. I fount a website and they sold them for 100,000. If you have that kinda money why not?

02/05/07 05:49pm

#1167029

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Message To: Boalady In reference to Message Id: 890325

In some ways you are wrong ..

Komodos do not attack deer and buffalo and waste energy in an on-site fight to the death. They usually bite the ungulate and let it run off and die from the infection caused by the bacteria in the KD’s mouth. They track the prey by smell and feed on the carcass.

02/09/07 03:19pm