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 #7500


JT
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 Legless Lizards=Snakes

Many people believe this to be so but there are some lizards out there, usually desert species that don’t require much use of their legs and have lost most of it. If you take a look at their skeleton and bone structures, you can tell that they once have access to them. Some of them still have visible, but nearly useless limbs. They move quite similar to snakes and will most eat insects. More research on legless lizards should be done if you want to learn more about these evolved lizards.



09/16/03  01:22am

 #10312


Lizzie
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  Message To: JT   In reference to Message Id: 7500


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

i dont believe in evolution!!!god created everything the way it is now!!



10/11/03  09:37pm

 #11835


D0llm0uth
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  Message To: Lizzie   In reference to Message Id: 10312


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

are you kidding? .....



10/28/03  06:03pm

 #13121


Gordy
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  Message To: Lizzie   In reference to Message Id: 10312


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

im with Lizzie on this one



11/10/03  10:22pm

 #13681


LeeZardo
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  Message To: Gordy   In reference to Message Id: 13121


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

Me too. It hase be discarded by MOST sciencetist.



11/13/03  06:23pm

 #13965


Lizzie
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  Message To: D0llm0uth   In reference to Message Id: 11835


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

what do you mean are you kidding???



11/15/03  08:23pm

 #18527


Panzer
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  Message To: Lizzie   In reference to Message Id: 13965


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

i totally agree i even believe the earth was only made thousands (not millions) years ago if we would have evolved from apes there wuold be NO apes left so i do not believe in evolution that simple dont ask me what i mean i am being comletly clear



12/12/03  08:59pm

 #18536


WildWilly
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  Message To: Panzer   In reference to Message Id: 18527


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

Hmm guys ganging up on some1 that might be right. Well the only thing you guys have to back you up is faith. We have skeletons that show the evolution from primal humans to now. I bet god made us in 6 days too.



12/12/03  09:21pm

 #18621


Adrastia217
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  Message To: Lizzie   In reference to Message Id: 10312


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

i agree w/ lizzie...i belive God created everything seprate...i don’t think creatures turn into other creatures...but i do belive they can adapt to different living styles after many, many yrs...due to changes in enviroments...=^_^=



12/13/03  10:51am

 #18977


WildWilly
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  Message To: Adrastia217   In reference to Message Id: 18621


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

Great answer everything adapts. Thats why almost no animals skeletons today can match the skeletons 100,000s of yrs ago.



12/14/03  05:49pm

 #19881


Gordy
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  Message To: WildWilly   In reference to Message Id: 18977


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

ITS 7 DAYS, GOT IT!!!!!!!



12/19/03  04:56pm

 #20077


WildWilly
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  Message To: Gordy   In reference to Message Id: 19881


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

6 days he rested the 7th :?P



12/20/03  05:54pm

 #20088


Gordy
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  Message To: WildWilly   In reference to Message Id: 20077


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

still a "day" of rest is still a day



12/20/03  06:18pm

 #20090


Pe
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  Message To: Gordy   In reference to Message Id: 20088


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

Good thing I didn’t create nothing...I would of made everything in an hour and rested 6 days and 23 hours.

PE



12/20/03  06:33pm

 #20096


WildWilly
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  Message To: Pe   In reference to Message Id: 20090


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

When god made Adam, Adam was very lonely. He said "hey god can i get someone just like my that i can play and have fun all the time with". ANd god responded "It’ll cost you a arm and leg". Adam Responds "well what can i get for a rib."
Well gordy if he rested on 7th day means he stopped working therefore it took 6 days for him to build. WHich doesnt make sence why would god need to rest almost sounds human of him.



12/20/03  06:42pm

 #20676


Lizzie
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  Message To: WildWilly   In reference to Message Id: 20096


 Legless Lizards=Snakes


Well, you would be kinda tired too if you spent 6 days making a universe and every thing in it!!!!! Wouldnt u??



12/23/03  09:43pm

 #22731


Moron66213
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  Message To: Lizzie   In reference to Message Id: 20676


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

omg, this is a frickin reptile forum, not a theological site, take your stupid religous questions somewhere else!


ok, n/m, srry, continue.



01/03/04  08:09pm

 #34059


Mrwoopie
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  Message To: Moron66213   In reference to Message Id: 22731


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

if i may change the subject for a min. i have just recieved two plated lizzards and a russian legless lizard. and have been unable to find much info on the legless as far as how to keep and care for this lizzard. they are currently in the same tank, i was told they rarelly drink. i an currently concernted about the temp. they do not have any nite heat, there is no heat rock or such thing. i have added a basking light but am affraid it may be too warm. if anyone has experience with these lizzards i would appreciante the help



02/10/04  09:26pm

 #45109


Reptifan
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  Message To: Mrwoopie   In reference to Message Id: 34059


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

OK, god did create everything on this earth. But god may not have made them or us as we or they look today. I absolutely do not believe that we evolved from monkeys, and i am totally open to the idea that the neanderthal man may have been a totally different speicies that died off millions of years ago, But the fact remains that animals adapt to their enviroment. Some lizards began living in dense grass areas, this made them slither through the grass rather than climbing through it, which over a period of time (likely many years) their limbs became shorter and shorter till they eventually disappeared.



03/11/04  08:18pm

 #45111


Reptifan
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  Message To: Mrwoopie   In reference to Message Id: 34059


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

I also have an eastern glass lizard, which is a north american legless lizard that my cat caught around our ponds. It took 50 bucks at the vet to get him better so i decide to try to keep him. He has tamed down really well and has a very good appetite. He has shed twice since i’ve had him.



03/11/04  08:20pm

 #63302


ILoVeLizards
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  Message To: Reptifan   In reference to Message Id: 45111


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

Ilove lizards W00t but the legless lizard is not a snake w00t



04/20/04  04:04pm

 #63564


Loki
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  Message To: ILoVeLizards   In reference to Message Id: 63302


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

i cant take evolution seriously either, first off the dating system(carbon14) is inacurate, stuff that we know the age of has been tested for being millions of years old, also by the very definition of evolution, the amphibians of today should have scales, not that thin delcate skin, evo is based on the theory that positive mutations, which are almost nonexistant, theres the time issue, pass on to the next generation because the individual with the mutation survived easier and therefore was able to procreate. fish have scales and thick skin for protection, it damn hard to gut a fish with a blade thats not really sharp. you can cut an amphibians skin with a butterknife, the same amphibians "decending" from fish. why would they lose a benificial mutation, only to gain it back as reptiles? and the fossil record is screwed up, in europe theres a site were three or four "millon" years worth of fossils are buried in the same layer of rock, theres plenty of other things in the fossil records that dont match up but im not gonna bore you all with more of this.
sorry for the long post all



04/20/04  11:53pm

 #65076


WildWilly
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  Message To: Loki   In reference to Message Id: 63564


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

You dont have to take it. But these animals with this thin skin your talking about probably never had the need to adapt. And fish being hard to gut hell halfe the animals that eat fish either have razor sharp teeth or swallow whole. Everything evolved and continues to evolve. Why you think human fussils are different back then, then now. They were bigger and taller, also had different shaped heads. And obviously some dating systems used would have so set backs but most are extremely accurate. Notice how fish have white bellies and darker tops. So when a animal looks up they blend with the sun and when it looks down the blend with the darkness. Why would a snake have the same? Maybe descendents of sea dwellers.



04/24/04  10:32pm

 #75169


Reptifan
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  Message To: WildWilly   In reference to Message Id: 65076


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

evolution is not based on positive changes that allow them to venture places that they have never been (as you say with the amphbians should have scales) but it better adapts animals to their enviroment, like the loss of lungs in most modern salamanders. instead of needing to breath in air the are able to absorb it through their skin from their moist surroundings.



05/18/04  08:17pm

 #75252


Loki
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  Message To: Reptifan   In reference to Message Id: 75169


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

evo is based on positive mutation, positive to its environment, i cant see it happening, i understand the osmotic respiration but at the cost of defence , it doesnt click to me, it would be like having our lungs on the outside so we wouldnt need to "breathe"(as in the motion) but that exposes somthing so vital to our survival, i love these kinda posts, gets ya thinkin



05/18/04  10:14pm

 #78870


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  Message To: Loki   In reference to Message Id: 75252


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

pure curiousity, how old is everyone here?



05/27/04  08:35pm

 #87792


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  Message To: Ktbug   In reference to Message Id: 78870


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

like everyone knows that wales and dolphins live in water but apparently thousends of years ago they lived on land because if you look at some certain species of wales and dolphins skeletons you can see folded up legs under there fins.so they evolved kinda to live in water.



06/17/04  06:07am

 #87793


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  Message To: Lozzer   In reference to Message Id: 87792


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

and legless lizerds once wernt snakes because legless lizerds have eye lids, ears, nostrils,and they have tails plus they dont flick there toungs



06/17/04  06:10am

 #102951


BoaBabe448
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  Message To: Lozzer   In reference to Message Id: 87793


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

yea all of that is true but i thought lizards flicked there tonges too? if anyone has any pictures on any type of legless lizards i wanna see them they are so fascinating lookiing ...



07/19/04  07:23pm

 #116692


Mr.mike
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  Message To: BoaBabe448   In reference to Message Id: 102951


 Legless Lizards=Snakes

i belive that God made everything perfect the thing is humans dont adapt otherwise we whould lose our legs and turn into blobs cause where always on the computer no seriously if humans extreamly adapted people that lived in alaska for thousands of years whould grow layers of fat and thick fur and people in nyc whould grow thick self cleaning lungs and animals dont extreamly adapt ethier



08/08/04  02:40pm
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