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 #1420980


Peter54
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 Went to a fair ...

I visited a herptile fair last weekend, it was a long drive for one day almost 500 miles one way, but it was worth the effort. I managed to sell a few of my own kingsnake juveniles and bought these three instead.

I sold my breeding Pueblan couples last year, but when I saw these nice Pueblan "sockheads" bred by a Danish breeder I couldn’t resist. This is the female ...


... and this is the male.


I also bought this little female sinaloan and a three-year-old female of wich I have no pic just yet.
08/27/07  04:47am

 #1421053


Candy_Corn
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   Message To: Peter54   In reference to Message Id: 1420980


 Went to a fair ...

They look great! I really love that sockhead. It’s nice they have reptile fairs where you live, but are they only about once a year? I haven’t heard you talk about one lately.
08/27/07  08:37am

 #1421065


Silenceafable
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   Message To: Candy_Corn   In reference to Message Id: 1421053


 Went to a fair ...

this is why I don’t venture onto the milksnake forums as much anymore. that little one makes me miss the sinaloan I traded away last year. great looking snakes!
08/27/07  09:04am

 #1421073


JustinZanderRyan
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   Message To: Silenceafable   In reference to Message Id: 1421065


 Went to a fair ...

I love that pueblan that you have, looks real pretty, the other one too. Thanks for sharing your babies with us.
08/27/07  09:36am

 #1421639


Peter54
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   Message To: Candy_Corn   In reference to Message Id: 1421053


 Went to a fair ...

C_C
Well, if I got them all counted, there are six fairs in Sweden per year, they are not only reptile fairs though. All different kinds of animals kept in terrariums are available, such as spiders, scolopenders, scorpions, mantis, cochroaches, beetles, snails, salamanders, frogs & toads. The next fair is closer to where I live, only about 75 miles away and it is aranged the last saturday in september. I’m going there to try to sell off my remaining 7 kingsnake juveniles.
08/27/07  05:48pm

 #1422484


Candy_Corn
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   Message To: Peter54   In reference to Message Id: 1421639


 Went to a fair ...

Good luck selling your kings!



08/28/07  08:10am

 #1448871


Sandyjosin
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   Message To: Peter54   In reference to Message Id: 1420980


 Went to a fair ...

Hi Peter54, why is this cute little thing called a sockhead. The term is new to me. Please explain...
09/19/07  12:22am

 #1448955


Peter54
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   Message To: Sandyjosin   In reference to Message Id: 1448871


 Went to a fair ...

Ordinary Pueblans have a rather thin first white or yellow band over the head, but when this first band is very wide like on those two in my previous pics, they are called "sockhead". It kinda looks like a sock has been pulled over their head don’t you think?

This hatchling of mine from this season has a ordinary first white band, just compare.
09/19/07  01:46am

 #1450203


Sandyjosin
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   Message To: Peter54   In reference to Message Id: 1448955


 Went to a fair ...

Thanks for the info on the sockhead. I am glad you put the pic on to compare with, it made it easy to see the difference. I hadn’t seen one like the pale colored one, what is the color name? The color is just so unusual, I love it. I havn’t seen one like that before.
09/20/07  01:45am

 #1450267


Peter54
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   Message To: Sandyjosin   In reference to Message Id: 1450203


 Went to a fair ...

Do you mean the male sockhead? It’s not that pale really, that photo was taken at dusk and the snake was about to shed. I’ll try to take a new pic of him soon.
09/20/07  04:50am

 #1454894


Sandyjosin
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   Message To: Peter54   In reference to Message Id: 1450267


 Went to a fair ...

I’ll be waiting to see him again....
09/24/07  12:03am

 #1747779


Peter54
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   Message To: Peter54   In reference to Message Id: 1450267


 Went to a fair ...

Unfortunately the male sockhead died a few months ago, but I thought I’d share a pic showing what the female sockhead Pueblan looks like right now.



05/27/08  04:44am

 #1747856


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   Message To: Peter54   In reference to Message Id: 1747779


 Went to a fair ...

Looking pretty, very nice.



05/27/08  08:47am

 #1765597


Candy_Corn
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   Message To: Peter54   In reference to Message Id: 1747779


 Went to a fair ...

Beautiful!
06/18/08  09:09pm

 #1767762


Luvlizards
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   Message To: Candy_Corn   In reference to Message Id: 1765597


 Went to a fair ...

Gorgeous snakes and pictures as usual!
06/20/08  05:07pm

 #1795813


ReptiGal94
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   Message To: Luvlizards   In reference to Message Id: 1767762


 Went to a fair ...

Aww that sucks.Any clue why the male died?
She’s very pretty.
07/15/08  01:55am

 #1795852


Peter54
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   Message To: ReptiGal94   In reference to Message Id: 1795813


 Went to a fair ...

I put my small milks into a short brumation period over 4 weeks + the time for lowering and rising temps, 6-7 weeks total, and he wasn’t strong enough to endure that I think. He was a good eater, even better than the female, but obviously he had not got what it takes.

This is often challenged, people say small juveniles should not be brumated. Well i disagree on that. If a snake is not fit to endure a short brumation period, it would not have been a good animal to breed on. I think this short brumation is a good way to prove that the snake is not genetically weak or sick.

I argue the exact same way when it comes to force feeding snakes that refuse to eat. I simply don’t do it anymore. If a snake doesn’t want to eat by itself - all the conditions being perfect - it simply was not ment to be.
07/15/08  03:31am

 #1796147


Snakebuz
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   Message To: Peter54   In reference to Message Id: 1795852


 Went to a fair ...

Yeah Peter, lots out there don’t feel the same way, I don’t brumate any feeding juveniles, but I can see where your survival of the fittest program could glean sturdier breeding stock. Stick to your guns and don’t worry what the others think, they’re your snakes.

Hmmm, swedish girls are from sturdy breeding stock....This is the long lost sweedish breeding formula!



07/15/08  12:05pm

 #1796148


Snakebuz
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   Message To: Peter54   In reference to Message Id: 1795852


 Went to a fair ...

That sinaloan with the high triad count is a beauty too...I have a pair I got from California almost identical. Beautiful snakes.
07/15/08  12:08pm


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