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 #1640505


Chloer
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 Pueblan Milk Snakes?

I currently own a ball python and a red tail boa, and I am considering getting a corn snake or a Pueblan milk snake. I know a lot about corns, but I am not sure about milk snakes.

I know the care sheets are great for information, but I want to know about people’s personal experiences with the snakes so I can get a good idea if one is right for me. Are they friendly? Do they tend to be more defensive? They are just so pretty, I would love to know if you guys could give some input.
02/27/08  07:18pm

 #1640522


Grogansilver
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   Message To: Chloer   In reference to Message Id: 1640505


 Pueblan Milk Snakes?

pueblan milk snakes tend to be a little skidish and nervous they need a lot of handling and even then, if i was you i would look more towards the Honduran line there a more calmer snake and you have a variety of colors.
02/27/08  07:28pm

 #1640527


Chloer
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   Message To: Grogansilver   In reference to Message Id: 1640522


 Pueblan Milk Snakes?

Quote:

if i was you i would look more towards the Honduran line



Thanks for the advice. Do Hondurans like to be handled?
02/27/08  07:31pm

 #1640549


Grogansilver
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   Message To: Chloer   In reference to Message Id: 1640527


 Pueblan Milk Snakes?

yes i find my Honduran milk snakes to be more calmer and handle able.
02/27/08  07:40pm

 #1642296


Peter54
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   Message To: Chloer   In reference to Message Id: 1640505


 Pueblan Milk Snakes?

chloer
I definitely oppose to what Grogasilver says about Pueblans and Hondurans. I have owned a lot of Pueblans and yes, they are very skiddish - when young, but so are just about any of the 25 subspecies to the milksnake species. An adult Pueblan is no problem to handle, they are as calm as any other milksnake.

Hondurans used to be the hardest to handle milks, but nowadays after many generations of CB, they have become easier handled and much better tempered than they were when I started with milksnakes back in the early 80ies.

Also, Pueblans are considerably smaller when fully grown compared to Hondurans. Pueblans rarely exceed 42 inches, while Hondurans grow to 64 inches easily. In my experience there is no big difference at all in behaviour and temper between the handful of milksnake subspecies that are bred in large numbers. You will be happy with a Pueblan or a Honduran aswell as a Sinaloan, a Nelsons, a Stuarts or a Mexican milksnake. They are all nice tempered and easy going snakes. The choice is yours to make.
02/29/08  02:29am

 #1642327


Grogansilver
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   Message To: Peter54   In reference to Message Id: 1642296


 Pueblan Milk Snakes?

Excuse me peter54 but i have two semi adults pueblan milk snakes that i try to handle on a regular basis every other day and still to this day their either biting me or nervous as anything always trying to run away. my other snake like my Hondurans great snakes no problems. By the way if your interested in adding these two peublans to your collection id love to sell them to you at a fair price, their a pair.
02/29/08  05:31am

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   Message To: Grogansilver   In reference to Message Id: 1642327


 Pueblan Milk Snakes?

Grogansilver,I do think the over night will be a bit to high where he is at.Sweden,you know across the water.Also to let you know something special about Peter54,he has been breeding and handling milks longer than most the our posters been alive.Not me,but I do love to pick his brain.Knowledge is power



02/29/08  06:36am

 #1642376


Grogansilver
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   Message To: Alligater   In reference to Message Id: 1642344


 Pueblan Milk Snakes?

With all of his experience i should ask him how much he would charge for psychotherapy for my two milk snakes, cause they need it. And by the way did you ever get a estimate from ups for delivery i know you tried fed-ex and it was to much. i have not forgotten about you on that i still look forward to that.



02/29/08  07:49am

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Peter54
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   Message To: Grogansilver   In reference to Message Id: 1642376


 Pueblan Milk Snakes?

grogansilver
Well, there will always be one or two milksnakes or kingsnakes that never get calm enough to handle, but they are exceptions to the rule - adult captive milksnakes and kingsnakes usually are very easy to handle.

However, no offense, but I would definitely argue that you are trying too hard! Let the snakes be alone for longer periods, I handle my milksnakes once a month max and they all turn out fine when they get older. Also to my experience, angry and aggressive adult milks and kings are, if not wild caught, usually either mistreated earlier or hungry/underfed.
03/01/08  03:38am

 #1643419


Grogansilver
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   Message To: Peter54   In reference to Message Id: 1643398


 Pueblan Milk Snakes?

your a cool person to talk with, Thank you for the advise.
03/01/08  05:01am


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