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Burmation
I’v heard that you can do it very succesfully without but I’v also had people tell me that I probably need to. What do you guys think, especially experienced breeders on here. (All comments welcome tho.  )
Reply greatly appreciated,THX MilkY |
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| 05/10/08 08:30am |
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DillanSim. View Profile |
Message To: MilkY_king In reference to Message Id: 1730945 Burmation
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| 05/10/08 11:54am |
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Alligater View Profile |
Message To: DillanSim. In reference to Message Id: 1731058 Burmation
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| 05/10/08 01:54pm |
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MilkY_king View Profile |
Message To: Alligater In reference to Message Id: 1731124 Burmation
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| 05/10/08 03:04pm |
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Peter54 View Profile |
Message To: MilkY_king In reference to Message Id: 1730945 Burmation
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| 05/11/08 12:53pm |
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MilkY_king View Profile |
Message To: Peter54 In reference to Message Id: 1731929 Burmation
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| 05/11/08 01:43pm |
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MilkY_king View Profile |
Message To: MilkY_king In reference to Message Id: 1731976 Burmation
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| 05/11/08 01:45pm |
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Peter54 View Profile |
Message To: MilkY_king In reference to Message Id: 1731976 Burmation
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| 05/11/08 04:35pm |
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MilkY_king View Profile |
Message To: Peter54 In reference to Message Id: 1731929 Burmation
Quote: Nelsons milksnakes aswell as for example Sinaloans and Pueblans originating from Mexico should get a brumation period of 6 to 10 weeks. Milksnakes originating from Central- and South America, such as Honduran milks and black milks, don’t need brumation.
You said nelsons should get a brumation period of 6 to 10 weeks, right? I was just asking what temps you would suggest for brumation periods before I breed.
Response greatly appreciated,THX.
P.S. Please correct me again if I misunderstood your post. |
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| 05/11/08 06:14pm |
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Grogansilver View Profile |
Message To: MilkY_king In reference to Message Id: 1732204 Burmation
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| 05/11/08 06:49pm |
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MilkY_king View Profile |
Message To: Grogansilver In reference to Message Id: 1732242 Burmation
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| 05/11/08 07:15pm |
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Peter54 View Profile |
Message To: Grogansilver In reference to Message Id: 1732242 Burmation
At these temps you only put snakes in a light winter rest. That is suitable for milksnakes such as Hondurans and black milks as well as boas and other species originating from the subtropic climate zone. However, one must be careful and not keep snakes at that temperature level for extended periods since they then will loose to much body mass. About 4 to 8 weeks is usually quite enough. Brumation means that the snake’s methabolic system is completely shut down and that occurs when the temperature falls below 59F. I brumate my Sinaloans for about 8 weeks in 53 to 59F. During these cold temperatures, no energy will be spent and weight loss stay below 4%. Of course you need at least 4 weeks fasting before lowering temps in order to empty the snake’s intestines, and perhaps 2 weeks after brumation to slowly climb back up in temperature. All in all the process cover 14 weeks. |
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| 05/12/08 04:19pm |
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MilkY_king View Profile |
Message To: Peter54 In reference to Message Id: 1733046 Burmation
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| 05/12/08 05:40pm |
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Grogansilver View Profile |
Message To: MilkY_king In reference to Message Id: 1733169 Burmation
Brumation Brumation is state similat to hiberhation, except that the snake is still active and drinks water but does not eat. By definition-brumation is torpor without physiological adjustment. Placing a snake into brumation should be done as follows Only cool a snake in good health. Do not feed the snake for 2 to 3 weeks prior to the time your start cooling. Make sure the snake does not have excessive undigested food still in it’s G.I. tract and as little waste as possible-soaking the snake is a good way to clean out the G.I. tract. Cool the snake slowly down into the mid 50’s and try to keep the temperature constant once there-stay between 50 and 55 degrees F. The snake should have access to clean water at all times. While giving the snake water, check for any signs of weight loss or other problems. Lighting should be minimal or absent. Substrate should be not be damp. There should be a hide box or more substrate to make the snake feel secure. Cool for a minimum of 90 days-unless the snakes is losing weight-if the snake is losing weight pull the snake earlier. At the end of the cooling period, raise the temperature slowly over a few hours for a few days. Allow 3 to 5 days back at normal range before offering food. The first one or two meals should be small. |
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| 05/20/08 05:18am |
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Message To: Grogansilver In reference to Message Id: 1740972
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