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NYgreenz92 View Profile |
Aspen bedding?
thank you |
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| 05/01/09 02:34am |
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Repticmantroy View Profile |
Message To: NYgreenz92 In reference to Message Id: 1996159 Aspen bedding?
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| 05/01/09 10:21am |
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NYgreenz92 View Profile |
Message To: Repticmantroy In reference to Message Id: 1996266 Aspen bedding?
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| 05/01/09 04:41pm |
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Repticmantroy View Profile |
Message To: NYgreenz92 In reference to Message Id: 1996426
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| 05/01/09 05:45pm |
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NYgreenz92 View Profile |
Message To: Repticmantroy In reference to Message Id: 1996463 Aspen bedding?
ive never heard of aspen being dangerous to reptiles but okay. thanks for the info |
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| 05/01/09 06:35pm |
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Herpsarelife View Profile |
Message To: NYgreenz92 In reference to Message Id: 1996485 Aspen bedding?
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| 05/01/09 07:42pm |
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NYgreenz92 View Profile |
Message To: Herpsarelife In reference to Message Id: 1996523 Aspen bedding?
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| 05/01/09 07:44pm |
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Big Slick Serpents View Profile |
Message To: NYgreenz92 In reference to Message Id: 1996525 Aspen bedding?
There is one serious caution with using ANY loose bedding (this includes Carefresh)... I would recommend feeding "outside" of the enclosure! I have had all of my snakes on Aspen bedding for well over a year with no problems...until a small piece of bedding (which must have stuck to the mouse being swallowed) punctured the digestive tract of one of my snakes and killed it withing 4 days. So..."MY" recommendation...is to either use newspaper (like I use to and have now switched back to)...or "SerpentLiner". Newspaper is the cheapest, easiest and most abundant! I’d use that! |
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| 05/04/09 01:05am |
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Concolor1 View Profile |
Message To: Big Slick Serpents In reference to Message Id: 1998137 Aspen Bedding is Fine . . .
Besides, it’s good practice for grad school, where I promise a bit of humility and some discretion will go a long way (and yes, you will encounter misinformed idiots even there; the trick is to go around them unless you’re involved in a peer review situation. Homicide is discouraged, but homicidal thoughts are understandable). Anyway, now that the Google God has demonstrated at least some worthiness to serve as a Higher Power in our lives, I’ll share what came up when I entered "pine shavings reptile substrate research" into my search parameters . . . Bear in mind this is for the "demon pine" that suffers from near-universal condemnation although not to the degree that it’s coniferous cousin cedar does . . . And the answer was "not much," and there was even anecdotal evidence from a guy who kept a Burmese Python for years on pine shavings with no ill effects (and no, I don’t use pine except for raising rodents, and whether I feed live or F/T, I make sure there are no stray shavings my critters might ingest. And I always feed outside the cage except for a stray extra pinky I might offer one of my adult snakes that a smaller one refused; those snakes are all on Repti-bark). So the possible harm is probably over exaggerated. The ASIH (American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists; those guys are quite capable of doing the research and reviewing the literature and probably can be trusted) recommends against using pine, noting that it is capable of swelling in the gut if ingested but makes no mention of toxicity . . . So that’s for pine . . . I invite curious sorts (perhaps anxious to call me a liar) to Google up "aspen" under various search parameters (perhaps "reptile substrates aspen" or "snake bedding aspen" or some such). And beware of the know-it-alls (particularly those who accuse you of that quality; they’re probably projecting their own hidden inner devils on you). While I was doing this bit of modest Googling (I’d done more extensive stuff before so I knew what I was going to encounter), one site insisted that the proper spelling of some members of the lampropeltis genus was "Kingsnake" (one word). However, the spellchecker on this site just threw up and insisted it be "king snake" (two words). As it was junior high English--and grad work in the same field--I used to teach, I’ll speak with a bit of modest authority on that one. Either is fine; it’s usage that determines "correctness," and professionals routinely refer to style guides to see what their particular editor probably prefers (and pros never get in a dander about such small stuff). Personally, if "kingsnake" is going to be one word, I think "milksnake" should be treated similarly, but one site I visit lets me do the former but tosses the wavy red line under the second unless I separate them. And shoot, knowing as much as I do about the history of language, spelling, and style, I wouldn’t even argue with "king-snake" or "milk-snake." Hey, son-of-a-gun, the spellchecker just let me get away with both of those . . . A lot of this is about choices (and responsibility for those choices and the freedom to change one’s mind); that’s all . . . And even though I know pelleted newspaper is fine, I think it’s ugly . . . |
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| 05/06/09 05:38am |
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Sobee View Profile |
Message To: Concolor1 In reference to Message Id: 1999414 Aspen Bedding is Fine . . .
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| 05/07/09 12:59pm |
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NYgreenz92 View Profile |
Message To: Sobee In reference to Message Id: 2000102 Aspen Bedding is Fine . . .
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| 05/07/09 10:10pm |
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Alligater View Profile |
Message To: NYgreenz92 In reference to Message Id: 2000415
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| 05/09/09 08:12am |
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Sobee View Profile |
Message To: Alligater In reference to Message Id: 2001206 Aspen Bedding is Fine . . .
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| 05/11/09 03:55pm |
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Aspen Bedding is Fine . . .
