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Reedie View Profile |
More dumb Floridians
Link 4th post down, 10th pic. Do you guys think that these may have a chance at breeding there? What will the affects be on the native fauna? Considering that they are insectivorous, it couldn’t be too bad? Anyway, I would love to hear your thoughts. -Reed |
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| 03/29/08 10:24pm |
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Nick[the reptilian] View Profile |
Message To: Reedie In reference to Message Id: 1681399 More dumb Floridians
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| 03/29/08 10:26pm |
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Shiftylarry View Profile |
Message To: Nick[the reptilian] In reference to Message Id: 1681401 More dumb Floridians
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| 03/29/08 10:32pm |
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Nick[the reptilian] View Profile |
Message To: Shiftylarry In reference to Message Id: 1681417 More dumb Floridians
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| 03/29/08 10:33pm |
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Reedie View Profile |
Message To: Nick[the reptilian] In reference to Message Id: 1681422 More dumb Floridians
-Reed |
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| 03/29/08 10:39pm |
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Nick[the reptilian] View Profile |
Message To: Reedie In reference to Message Id: 1681437 More dumb Floridians
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| 03/29/08 10:41pm |
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The Dirty Andorian View Profile |
Message To: Reedie In reference to Message Id: 1681399 More dumb Floridians
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4313978.stm |
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| 03/29/08 10:47pm |
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Carpondro17 View Profile |
Message To: Reedie In reference to Message Id: 1681399 More dumb Floridians
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| 03/29/08 10:54pm |
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KAP10CAVY View Profile |
Message To: The Dirty Andorian In reference to Message Id: 1681463 More dumb Floridians
Hell, my rudi escaped during a house fire. Am I now an irresposible keeper? Scott |
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| 03/29/08 10:55pm |
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The Dirty Andorian View Profile |
Message To: Carpondro17 In reference to Message Id: 1681475 More dumb Floridians
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| 03/29/08 10:56pm |
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KAP10CAVY View Profile |
Message To: The Dirty Andorian In reference to Message Id: 1681483 More dumb Floridians
Quote: Nile Monitors are actively breeding in Florida
Says who? I have yet to see anyone comfirm hatchlings or even dug up eggs. Not to mention copulating pictures. Scott |
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| 03/29/08 11:04pm |
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The Dirty Andorian View Profile |
Message To: KAP10CAVY In reference to Message Id: 1681497 More dumb Floridians
"However, numerous observations since1990 consisting of all size classes suggest the presence of an establishedbreeding population, particularly considering the number that have been killed on roads or removed from the wild by collectors, animal control officers, and researchers. It is highly unlikely that all these animals were released or escaped from captivity, and we are unaware of any person or business that possessed large numbers of Nile Monitors in Cape Coral in the past. From July 2003 (the end of our data collection period) through 22 April 2004, 50 V. niloticus ranging in size from 13 to > 100 cm SVL have been trapped, including gravid females and 10 hatchlings between 13 and 17 cm SVL (T.S. Campbell, pers. obs.)." (Bottom of Page 6, Top of Page 7) "We found a gravid female in August, and small specimens have been captured or observed primarily in winter and early spring." (Middle of Page 7) http://www.naherpetology.org/pdf_files/292.pdf "In Cape Coral, Nile monitors reproduce between April and September and hatchlings appear mainly between February and April." (Middle of Page 4) "Hatchlings were captured in the greatest numbers between February and April. We often received phone calls about numerous hatchlings basking on seawalls and hiding in bushes during that period. The above data indicate the incubation period of Cape Coral Nile monitors lasts six to nine months, similar to African populations (Lenz 1995, 2004). Collectively, these data indicate the Cape Coral Nile monitors reproduce in thesummer months, and hatchlings emerge in early spring." (Bottom of Page 20) http://iswgfla.org/files/Nile%20monitor%20-%20Campbell.pdf |
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| 03/29/08 11:36pm |
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Carpondro17 View Profile |
Message To: KAP10CAVY In reference to Message Id: 1681497 More dumb Floridians
burms,tics,green condas,scrubs,african rocks and common niles, but you dont need a permit for ornates or morph common niles. Like the reptile store I go to they have a hypo nile and I asked them dont you need a permit to sell common niles and they said they dont need one if its hypo or albino. To bad they dont allow you to do that with retics,or burms :( |
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| 03/29/08 11:38pm |
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Reedie View Profile |
Message To: Carpondro17 In reference to Message Id: 1681556 More dumb Floridians
Quote: I go to they have a hypo nile and I asked them dont you need a permit to sell common niles and they said they dont need one if its hypo or albino.
Yeah, too bad there is no such thing as a "hypo" monitor. -Reed |
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| 03/30/08 09:55am |
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Carpondro17 View Profile |
Message To: Reedie In reference to Message Id: 1681830 More dumb Floridians
http://you tube.com/watch?v=M5NGBEnnQgI and I saw one that was being sold on kingsnake to as a hypo nile. Next time I go to the reptile store ill post pics of it and all. If it not hypo then what is it a retarted looking nile? Why would they sell for 1400$? |
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| 03/30/08 01:17pm |
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The Dirty Andorian View Profile |
Message To: Carpondro17 In reference to Message Id: 1682000 More dumb Floridians
Quote: Ok so your telling me the one at the store isnt hypo and this one isnt either?????
Hypo is a genetic mutation within an established species |
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| 03/30/08 01:44pm |
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Reedie View Profile |
Message To: The Dirty Andorian In reference to Message Id: 1682042 More dumb Floridians
-Reed |
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| 03/30/08 01:54pm |
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Carpondro17 View Profile |
Message To: Reedie In reference to Message Id: 1682059 More dumb Floridians
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| 03/30/08 02:24pm |
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Krusty View Profile |
Message To: Carpondro17 In reference to Message Id: 1682115 More dumb Floridians
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| 03/30/08 03:23pm |
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KAP10CAVY View Profile |
Message To: Krusty In reference to Message Id: 1682198 More dumb Floridians
Maybe, some of these Nigerian billionares that seem so eager to share their wealth with me. Part of the report mentioned they may have come from an importer who wanted them to breed to save him money. Have they lost their mind and even checked out how low priced the wild caught imports are? Lets see, a few dollars at most each to catch and ship here, versus that time and energy it would take to round up the critters once they hatched. Yea, makes sense to me. Scott |
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| 03/30/08 05:26pm |
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The Dirty Andorian View Profile |
Message To: KAP10CAVY In reference to Message Id: 1682342 More dumb Floridians
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| 03/30/08 05:39pm |
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Nile_monitor_3! View Profile |
Message To: The Dirty Andorian In reference to Message Id: 1682362 More dumb Floridians
Quote: I doubt they will ever fully eradicate them from the wild. Monitors are just too adaptive, and are natural born survivors.
How many/and what kind of monitors do you own or have owned? |
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| 05/08/08 04:32pm |
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Sdslancs View Profile |
Message To: Nile_monitor_3! In reference to Message Id: 1729445 More dumb Floridians
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| 05/08/08 05:37pm |
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Sidbarvin View Profile |
Message To: Nile_monitor_3! In reference to Message Id: 1729445 More dumb Floridians
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| 05/08/08 07:19pm |
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Nile_monitor_3! View Profile |
Message To: Sidbarvin In reference to Message Id: 1729669 More dumb Floridians
Quote: He was banned NM. Nobody will miss him the way I missed you when you were banned, heh heh.
HEY SID! my cage is still holding up really nice by the way!  |
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| 05/08/08 08:27pm |
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