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 #2085552


LizaB2008
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 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

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10/18/09  03:46pm

 #2085568


BansheeRacer25
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   Message To: LizaB2008   In reference to Message Id: 2085552


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Neither are really any good at all. BOth miss a lot of information.



10/18/09  04:25pm

 #2085573


Anders65
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   Message To: LizaB2008   In reference to Message Id: 2085552


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Hi ,
while at first glance it might look impressive that this person has such a huge and tame/apparently tame savannah monitor i,ve looked at his vids and can honestly say that the standard of care he his providing for that reptile has killed many savs over the years .I,m not talking a few or hundreds but many , many thousands .Thats thousands yr after yr after yr ,and its only in recent yrs that sav care has been better understood and the survival rate seems to be rising quite dramatically ie a lot less "help dying sav "posts on reptile forums .Follow the advice that longtime keepers on this forum pass on and you should have relatively trouble free sav care for many years but any attempt to "tweak" that care or cut corners will be counter productive and cause problems .

I think that guys pushing his luck and his sav will pay for that eventually ,and remember that occassionally savs kept in extremely poor conditions can sometimes "live" 6 to 10 yrs but for much of that lifetime they will be very slowly dying .

At present erm"Yoshi" (at least the guys original ) is being kept at temps and humidity levels that eventually (often rapidly) lead to serious and irreversible health problems that again kill thousands of savs every year.

Back in the early nineties it was reccomended to provide savs with basking temps 90f -100f and kept on a thin layer of drysand or newspaper , crushed walnut shells etc , so 0% humidity and savs though reccomended as extremely easy to care for were very hard to keep alive and healthy for any length of time-3 to 5 yrs max usually,

cheers,and best of look with yours,
Andy
10/18/09  04:52pm

 #2085578


LizaB2008
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   Message To: Anders65   In reference to Message Id: 2085573


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

I wasn’t planning on doing as they said, I just thought I’d show you guys what other people are suggesting people to watch and learn. I was research savannah monitors a little more and came across an answer on yahoo answers advising someone to watch these videos that they are the best examples of monitor husbandry. I thought it was wrong so I decided to see what everyone here thought.
10/18/09  05:10pm

 #2085594


LizaB2008
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   Message To: LizaB2008   In reference to Message Id: 2085578


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

I was reading over this websire and it seems like a really good website.....


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10/18/09  05:55pm

 #2085605


Mxracer
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   Message To: LizaB2008   In reference to Message Id: 2085594


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

That site is terrible. If has a section showing how to tame monitors. I’ve seen his youtube video’s. He keeps his monitors in a 40 gallon breeder, with news paper as subtrate. A half log and a water dish. His cages are boring and very out of date. it also has a screen top. I’ve argued with him trying to show him what he’s foing wrong. Your kinda starting to sound like DWS cause you like all these wrong sites and bad video’s. Not to mention all of his pictures are stolen from Justin and Shay.
10/18/09  06:35pm

 #2085607


Mxracer
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   Message To: Mxracer   In reference to Message Id: 2085605


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Sorry I read the credit section and he didn’t steal them. But he uses what he call’s the pet store package for his monitor.
10/18/09  06:38pm

 #2085622


Jay h
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   Message To: Mxracer   In reference to Message Id: 2085607


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

You need to re-read that web page Mxracer.



10/18/09  07:07pm

 #2085637


Mxracer
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   Message To: Jay h   In reference to Message Id: 2085622


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Yes, I did read it. His info is correct but he doesn’t follow any of the thing’s that he reconmends. All of his info are from other’s, not him. He keep’s his sav’s like the pet store package deal he shows. He also reconmended it if I remember correctly on youtube.
10/18/09  07:25pm

 #2085644


LizaB2008
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   Message To: Mxracer   In reference to Message Id: 2085637


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

No he says that putting your savannah in the pet store package is the main reason savannahs are dying off so early in age, read it, don’t just look at the pictures.



10/18/09  07:42pm

 #2085646


LizaB2008
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   Message To: LizaB2008   In reference to Message Id: 2085644


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Quote:

The main husbandry error and number one Savannah Monitor killer is the "pet store package", the fish aquarium with a screen top, newspaper substrate, and a 100 watt heat lamp. As monitors need high humidity, this is a great way to cause dehydration, impaired metabolic function, and lethargy. This leads to obesity, and possibly liver disease, and finally death.



Those are the sites exact words. Who cares where the information came from, it’s that the information is good information. When someone writes a research paper, it’s not the writters words that make the paper, it’s the research the found and other peoples words. I found that alot of the things that are mentioned on this site are listed on this site.
10/18/09  07:45pm

 #2085654


Mxracer
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   Message To: LizaB2008   In reference to Message Id: 2085646


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Yes the sites word’s, also meaning there not his words. He has a video on youtube reconmending the way he has the ’’pet store package’’ set up.
10/18/09  07:57pm

 #2085658


Silentjt
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   Message To: Mxracer   In reference to Message Id: 2085654


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Mx, If you are referring to the youtube link in the credits, that’s just where he got the screen shot for the "pet store package".

Jesse
10/18/09  08:05pm

 #2085674


Varanus_odom
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   Message To: Silentjt   In reference to Message Id: 2085658


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

LizaB2008, that website is pretty reliable as far as the information available.

ha ha, as long as you don’t mistake "Pet sore package" with "Perfect package".
10/18/09  08:45pm

 #2085708


LizaB2008
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   Message To: Varanus_odom   In reference to Message Id: 2085674


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

lol, no I know what I need to do to make my monitor happy
10/18/09  09:57pm

 #2085792


Manchild
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   Message To: LizaB2008   In reference to Message Id: 2085708


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Mx,that web page was created by someone who got tiered of answering the same questions over and over.It is the best Savanna monitor care sheet out there.


greg
10/19/09  01:56am

 #2085838


Shadowboxing
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   Message To: Manchild   In reference to Message Id: 2085792


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Mx, did you pass kindergarten?
10/19/09  08:57am

 #2085840


Lone Wolf
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   Message To: Shadowboxing   In reference to Message Id: 2085838


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

No need for rude comments, people on here fight enough the way it is, you may not have know this but, comments like that are very likely to start one. :-)

Cody
10/19/09  09:06am

 #2085845


Shadowboxing
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   Message To: Lone Wolf   In reference to Message Id: 2085840


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Aite bro lol, woudn’t want to p/o 1 of the board’s resident experts
10/19/09  09:24am

 #2085891


LizaB2008
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   Message To: Shadowboxing   In reference to Message Id: 2085845


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

That the reason I posted that link, I thought is was a really good help for me, I liked the info. Cody is right there is no need for an arguement
10/19/09  12:09pm

 #2085943


Mxracer
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   Message To: LizaB2008   In reference to Message Id: 2085891


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

yes I did pass kindergarten, actually im in grade 10 and doing well. But that has nothing to do with with how I do in school. Who are you shadow, I have never seen you here before.
10/19/09  02:56pm

 #2085947


Shadowboxing
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   Message To: Mxracer   In reference to Message Id: 2085943


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Lol I love teens who act like authorities. Your top notch around here pal.
10/19/09  03:04pm

 #2085954


Lone Wolf
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   Message To: Shadowboxing   In reference to Message Id: 2085947


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Ah the youthful vigor of a teen, always ready to fight. Mx, just ignore comments like: "did you finish kindergarten?" If you ruffle your feathers over things like that, you got much bigger problems ahead. Trust me, there are much worse problems in life than an insult, try losing your job and not knowing if you can feed your family tomorrow, I’m not in that position but many are. You cant let yourself get flustered over simple insults like that or you will not be a happy camper making through the rest of life. Just ignore and move on, the last thing the rest of us want is to see another fight go on, that’s how forums like this get ruined. Thank you for the co-operation, it helps keep things peaceful and informational. :-)

Cody
10/19/09  03:19pm

 #2086015


Shadowboxing
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   Message To: Lone Wolf   In reference to Message Id: 2085954


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Lol wise words, Obi Wan. Mx you obviously didn’t read the site or have no reading comprehansion skills because the site was straight dissin the 40 gallon tank and sayin its the bad part of pet keeping. Hooked on phonics, homey.
10/19/09  05:16pm

 #2086031


Jay h
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   Message To: Shadowboxing   In reference to Message Id: 2086015


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Could you guys stop the childish behavior now?
10/19/09  05:54pm

 #2086126


Silentjt
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   Message To: Jay h   In reference to Message Id: 2086031


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Two guidelines to reduce the childish bickering.

1. only post a response when needed.

2. Don’t respond to insulting or argument enticing posts.

It’s that simple kids.

Jesse



10/19/09  09:00pm

 #2086142


Qwerty08
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   Message To: Silentjt   In reference to Message Id: 2086126


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

LizaB2008 maybe you should lay off the posting, jk. Im just seeing that every time you start one theres always an on going argument of somesort ending it. Its actualy quite amusing.
10/19/09  09:35pm

 #2086143


Mxracer
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   Message To: Silentjt   In reference to Message Id: 2086126


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Im not going to continue the argument. It’s point less cause you wont stop. But all I know is that I take great care of my own lizards and that’s all I need to do.

-Terry
10/19/09  09:35pm

 #2086155


Krusty
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   Message To: Mxracer   In reference to Message Id: 2086143


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

...I know you are, but what am I?
10/19/09  09:52pm

 #2086158


Mxracer
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2086155


 Tell me what you think of these care video’s someone recommended I watch

Your Krusty the clown... Sorry couldn’t resist.
10/19/09  09:58pm
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