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Salvator question

Hi there
what’s the specific characteristics of Varanus Salvator Bivittatus?and is there any possible the location of Varanus Salvator Bivittatus is the same as Varanus Salvator macromaculatus?

THANKS

10/26/09 06:38am

#2088707

John A
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Message To: Repchen In reference to Message Id: 2088706

Salvator question

Obviously the closer the two subspecies are geographically, some blend may occur. This would be the straits separating Sumatra and Java. Funny thing about the islands in the straits, Krakatoa and others a trend to become melanistic occurs. There hasn’t been any studies comparing the two subspecies on those islands so I can only speculate what blending occurs.

The characteristics that define bivittatus are in comparing the skull to macromaculatus and tail length. Overall, bivittatus has a short tail and a more massive skull with short snout. Scales are shaped different on the necks of both subspecies. Overall they are very closely related lizards. Pattern wise the Javan bivittatus has a broad shoulder band and the band behind it is reduced and broken up. A similar pattern occurs in Thailand’s macromaculatus so its not a feature exclusive to bivittatus.

-John

10/26/09 07:05am

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Message To: John A In reference to Message Id: 2088707

Salvator question

thanks a lot

10/26/09 09:08am

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Message To: Repchen In reference to Message Id: 2088730

Salvator question

and .......which is the bigger one ,macromaculatus or Bivittatus ?

10/26/09 01:12pm

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Message To: Repchen In reference to Message Id: 2088764

Salvator question

Mainland Asia’s macromaculatus is recorded larger than bivittatus. Malay peninsula Cameron Highlands are recorded close to 10 feet. Thankfully the real giants are not legally imported. The bivittatus from Java and the Sumatran macromaculatus are usually too big for most folks captive conditions anyway.

10/27/09 09:48am

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Message To: John A In reference to Message Id: 2088998

Salvator question

and ....I have a water monitor,I want to know his locality ,Malaysia?

10/27/09 01:57pm

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John A
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Message To: Repchen In reference to Message Id: 2089062

Salvator question

Its macromaculatus, either Sumatra or southern Kalimantan. There are no mainland S.E. Asian countries exporting water monitors, only Indonesia exports and supplies the pet trade. That counts Malaysia out.

10/27/09 02:56pm

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Mxracer
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Message To: Repchen In reference to Message Id: 2089062

Salvator question

Thats one nice looking salvator.

10/27/09 02:58pm

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Message To: Mxracer In reference to Message Id: 2089079

Salvator question

This is my friend＇s water monitor,do u know where is his original location? my friend told me he was from Malaysia, but he is not 100% sure. Thanks

10/28/09 01:22pm

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John A
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Message To: Repchen In reference to Message Id: 2089334

Salvator question

If it was purchased in the U.S., its a baby V.s. bivittatus. The pattern is Javan.

10/28/09 01:40pm

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Message To: John A In reference to Message Id: 2089338

Salvator question

my friend purchased in China. He is a Chinese. He thought this one is wild catch.

10/28/09 01:45pm

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John A
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Message To: Repchen In reference to Message Id: 2089341

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Hhaahaha Are you trying to trick me? It fits if its a Chinese macromaculatus. The broken band behind the shoulder band is not restricted to Javan bivittatus... Thailand, Myanmar also have this feature. Where in China was it caught? I travel southern China 4 times a year- Guangzhou, Dongguan, Putian, Shenzhen...

Xie xie,

John

10/28/09 03:14pm

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Message To: John A In reference to Message Id: 2089372

Salvator question

This is not what i mean , my friend bought this water monitor from businessman in China, he said that it came from Indonesia, is a WC.

i am sorry for my english, i am not good at it. sorry.

10/28/09 11:22pm

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Message To: Repchen In reference to Message Id: 2089558

Salvator question

No worries, my Mandarin is not good either. Check my website for photos of salvator variants. There’s many locality photos in the forum too.

http://www.cybersalvator.com

10/29/09 10:41am

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Message To: John A In reference to Message Id: 2089651

Salvator question

My gf goes to Guangzhou every couple of years, John. Her friend owns a bunch of restaurants there. She’s nagging me to go, but I can’t leave here for very long to make it worthwhile.... no lizard sitter. LOL

Ask this next time you go!

may fong pei?

10/29/09 11:40am