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Qqqqz View Profile |
Blue Spot Timor Monitor
A little background: I’ve been a snake/snapping turtle owner for many years. I currently have three columbian red tail boas, one guyana boa, a king snake, and a water python. I’ve owned turtles before - all of them have been common snapping turtles. I’ve never owned any other kind. I currently own all of those snakes I have listed and kind of recently donated my last snapper to a friend’s pond. I have always wanted a lizard of some kind, but it had to be a monitor. I originally wanted an argus, but those get quite large. It’s still a possibility someday, now’s not the time. I did NOT want to start with an ackie because to me they’re just too small and as much as I like the red ones, they’re just not for me. Then there’s the savannah. They may be easier for a beginner. My problem with them is that they look great as babies, but they’re damn ugly when full grown adults, to me anyway. So they’re not for me either. No offense to you savannah owners out there. What I would like to know is if any monitor owners/former monitor owners think the one I bought is a good, mid-sized monitor to start with? I think he’s great. Had it sexed and it’s a male. I would also like to see if anyone here has some pictures of an adult sized monitor of this kind and if so, can you please post some pictures here in this thread? I just want to see what I’m in for later. Rate of growth would be nice to know too. So here he is. I’ll keep the pictures coming as I take them.
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| 03/21/10 06:14pm |
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Sulfurboy1o3 View Profile |
Message To: Qqqqz In reference to Message Id: 2134785 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
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| 03/21/10 06:22pm |
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Qqqqz View Profile |
Message To: Sulfurboy1o3 In reference to Message Id: 2134788 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
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| 03/21/10 07:02pm |
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Qqqqz View Profile |
Message To: Qqqqz In reference to Message Id: 2134804 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
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| 03/21/10 07:09pm |
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BansheeRacer25 View Profile |
Message To: Qqqqz In reference to Message Id: 2134806 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
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| 03/21/10 07:49pm |
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Qqqqz View Profile |
Message To: BansheeRacer25 In reference to Message Id: 2134824 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
Give me a week for the setup picture. Right now it’s kind of plain and minimum. Plus, I have a poster behind it that I’d have to censor. I’m going to be putting a background around the back of the tank. He’s currently in three inches of eco earth. I can’t get his basking area to go above 115 right now. That’s what I maxed out on. Tomorrow I’m going to pick up a lower-watt ceramic heat emitter to put next to it. That should give it the temperature boost I need. He has a hallowed out half log hide spot. And a water dish. Probably a temporary one for now. The thing I’m most unsure about is the size I should use. I’m not sure if monitors like to sit in those things. Being a snake owner, this is something I’m used to. Someone have an answer for me on this one? So tomorrow I’ll be picking up the heat emitter and two more bricks of eco earth. On Thursday I don’t have to work until 6pm so I’ll have plenty of time to get everything else I need, which includes the background image, some stuff for him to climb on, and maybe one more smaller hide. Any other recommendations? |
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| 03/21/10 08:14pm |
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Nile/water monitors View Profile |
Message To: Qqqqz In reference to Message Id: 2134806
You’ve come to the right place if you want to learn "allot", if you really want your monitor to survive, these guys take their husbandry skills "very seriously", Don’t get mad or take anything personally when your offered info. on your little guy. Monitor can be "VERY CHALLENGING" ,just to set up the proper enclosure for a monitor is a undertaking in its self. Post pictures of your enclosure and be ready for constructive criticism, use all the info. the members will throw your way, some members will be brutally honest with their info. to other members, It will benefit your monitor. Be patient and you’ll learn what your monitor really needs to thrive. Read the other post and research as much as you can. Monitors are not like snakes/turtles, its a different world when it comes to proper husbandry for monitors. post his diet to. Best of luck |
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| 03/21/10 08:43pm |
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Qqqqz View Profile |
Message To: Nile/water monitors In reference to Message Id: 2134837 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
Pictures will be coming soon. Everything is still at its minimum right now. Today at the expo I bought a crapload of rats of all different sizes for the snakes. $125 of rats. This monitor will get some of those. I also know about crickets and roaches, which I hate because I’m not a bug person. Imagine a big, tattooed, bald guy that would scream and run away at the sight of a spider. That’s me. I have left over calcium powder from when I had a pacman frog. I forgot to give that to my niece when I gave her the frog. Is there anything else they like to eat besides those? What about worms, fish, cooked people food meat such as steak, chicken, turkey, or pork? Dog/cat food? Small children? Tacos, pizza, or horses? Are canned insects or monitor food recommended? I’ve see that stuff before. I’m sure it’s not, but I like to hear all the advice I can. I’m open to anything. Money is not an issue. The ones I definitely know about are the rats, crickets, and roaches. I’m sure those are the most important ones anyway. I’ll be buying some of those disgusting little creatures tomorrow. I also still need to know about the water bowl issue. The question was asked in my previous post. |
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| 03/21/10 09:03pm |
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BansheeRacer25 View Profile |
Message To: Qqqqz In reference to Message Id: 2134853 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
Timors like to hide. You need to supply them with lots of hiding spots. You said money was not an issue, check out marylandcork for some cork. Pile a bunch of cork in the cage. I go out and find lots of hollow logs for the more shy species. My Similis cage is loaded with hides. You want your basking spot to be around 120-145ish. Your cool end should be around 75-85 ambient. You can get a cheap digital therm at wal mart. Dont even bother trying to feed any of that garbage. Stick to the whole prey food items in ex: Mice, pinkies, fuzzies, rat fuzzies , super worms, roaches, and qauil. There are some others but you dont want to feed anything canned like dog food or human food. Thats for dogs and humans. If you try to feed that garbage your going to end up with an obese monitor in a short time forming mbd. Water wise im pretty sure your not going to get them to drink out of a water bowel. Spray the cage 2-4 times a day for them to drink. I use a lot of greenery to spray for my arboreal monitors. Monitors are very rewarding if you have patience. I hope you like your timor. Any chance you got that from the reading show? Bill |
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| 03/21/10 09:46pm |
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Chad Lane View Profile |
Message To: BansheeRacer25 In reference to Message Id: 2134877 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
I just wanted to add that that’s not a Timor Monitor, but a very close realtive. Varanus auffenbergi "Peacock Monitor". I also wanted to point out, that Ackies get just as big if not bigger than Timors/Peacock Monitors. As the animal you posted is an adult. If you set him up properly, you’ll almost never see him, or not very often. You have have been much happier with an Ackie that you’d see hours every day, running around eating in front of you, etc. Make sure you have your humidty fairly high, also get some leaf litter (oak leaves work great), make sure you have bark/cork bark along the walls, hollow cork bark tunnels, and plenty of other hides, they do like to climb, and go into hollow logs etc. If you don’t already have one get a temp gun it is a must to get basking spots with 129-140F this is surface temps not air temps, so you really need a temp gun. Good luck! Cheers, Chad |
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| 03/21/10 10:01pm |
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Nile/water monitors View Profile |
Message To: Qqqqz In reference to Message Id: 2134853 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
Your monitor is going to need allot of room, Your looking at a large custom size enclosure, not a tank. Your substrate, (soil/sand mix is good for holding humidity/burrowing) should be 1 1/2 to 2 ft. deep. Your enclosure should be completely sealed to hold proper heat/humidity, no open screen tops. Flood lights to heat, NO SPOT LIGHTS. |
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| 03/21/10 10:15pm |
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Qqqqz View Profile |
Message To: BansheeRacer25 In reference to Message Id: 2134877 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
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| 03/21/10 10:24pm |
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Qqqqz View Profile |
Message To: Qqqqz In reference to Message Id: 2134888 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
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| 03/21/10 10:28pm |
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Missa249 View Profile |
Message To: Qqqqz In reference to Message Id: 2134889 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
If you need any help on how to install once you get them let us know my husband can tell you exactly how to install these. Have you built an encloser or buy one, is it made from wood? When can you post the pics? Mel |
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| 03/22/10 03:07am |
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K. Jensen View Profile |
Message To: Missa249 In reference to Message Id: 2134946 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
They are WAY better than normal floodlights. I use the 70w lucky reptile for my macraei´s and it is amasing it have more UV then normal UV tube lights. Put out more light then a normal 150w HQI lamp. I will get some of the smaller once for my v.similis and timorensis(semau) soon. |
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| 03/22/10 04:44am |
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Matchdog View Profile |
Message To: K. Jensen In reference to Message Id: 2134956 Blue Spot Timor Monitor
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| 03/22/10 09:35am |
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Blue Spot Timor Monitor