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 #2206146


Krusty
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 1st Pipping Flavirufus

After 203 days, I finally got my first Sand Monitor pipping the egg. These things are tiny. It darted back into the egg before I could get the phone cam shot, but I’ll add a pic or two later on as they start hatching out.



02/21/11  10:10am

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Stephen foo
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2206146


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Justin , brilliant news and a job well done 203 days is a fair old time for you to wait :)

nice work and looking forward to the pictures to follow shortly.

steve
02/21/11  11:56am

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Krusty
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   Message To: Stephen foo   In reference to Message Id: 2206165


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Thanks Stephen,

Yeah, considering Argus eggs are larger and the babies are 4" bigger, you’d sort of assume they’d be the longer-incubating species, but they’re not. My Argus are very consistently at 175 days (+/-5 days) while in the same exact conditions of incubation, these will likely be 203-220 days as they hatch out...if they all hatch out i should say. I can’t believe how much smaller they are. I raised hatchlings in 2008 of Flavi’s and I forgot just how tiny they’re born.

Also cool stuff today, I dug up some Yellow Ackies later last week and my F3 generation of Kimberley Rocks are in the oven as my F2 holdback pair gave me 8 perfect eggs from a first-time breeding pair. The female looks like a champ, no worse for wear except a little baggy. I’m feeding her some baby mice as we speak. LOL

Kim eggs off my cellphone cam:



02/21/11  02:00pm

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Stephen foo
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2206179


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

The Flavies i did think incubation wise they would have been pretty similar to the Argus yes ,

also congratulations on the Ackies and kimms as well , brilliant news :)


Steve



02/21/11  02:18pm

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Mdf
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2206179


 1st Pipping Flavirufus



Congrats Justin!! :)
02/22/11  01:55pm

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Krusty
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   Message To: Mdf   In reference to Message Id: 2206325


 1st Pipping Flavirufus
02/24/11  07:23am

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Alex_
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2206655


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Great pic Justin!
02/24/11  08:08am

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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2206655


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Congratulations!
That little guy looks exhausted . You do awesome work Krusty!

Chris....
02/24/11  08:15am

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Krusty
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   Message To: Nile/water monitors   In reference to Message Id: 2206660


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Thanks!



02/24/11  12:07pm

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Krusty
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2206688


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

#2 is a looker too!



02/24/11  04:02pm

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3240
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2206731


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

That’s a beauty. The pattern is different for a flavi. Congrats!
02/24/11  05:16pm

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Mxracer
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   Message To: 3240   In reference to Message Id: 2206751


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

They look awsome. That second one is just amazing looking though, very vibrant colours.
02/24/11  05:54pm

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Krusty
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   Message To: Mxracer   In reference to Message Id: 2206757


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Thanks. Yes, the reddish colors are pretty cool on that 2nd one. There’s a 3rd one pipped this morning but i can’t get a camera going right now. A clutch of Ackies hatched today (early) and I have to get things ready for them all day now too. Ugh!....a lot of cages to fire up and quick.
02/25/11  11:44am

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Krusty
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2206863


 1st Pipping Flavirufus
02/25/11  11:04pm

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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2206980


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Those things are hot hot hot!!! Yes def inching to fav species status, currently sitting on #2. I don’t think they’ll over take número uno, but they sure did leap frog various species!



02/25/11  11:10pm

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Stephen foo
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2206980


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

First time iv seen Flavi babies (yours and Alex) as hathlings , they are indeed very vibrant colours and so small (compared to vph babies)
job done there Justin nice work.

steve



02/26/11  05:34am

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Krusty
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   Message To: Stephen foo   In reference to Message Id: 2207008


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Thanks Stephen. Yes, they are freaking tiny vs Panoptes (Argus). The eggs are about 60% smaller also. I saved a few shells of both. Here’s that odd reddish one in my hand for a size reference:



Here’s a newborn V. panoptes horni (Argus Monitor):



Both lizards are right out of the incubator a day or two old.
02/27/11  10:49am

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Stephen foo
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2207171


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

You can really see the differance now theres a size reference to go off , they are really nice monitors indeed , whats the average adult size of these male and female?

steve
02/27/11  12:12pm

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Krusty
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   Message To: Stephen foo   In reference to Message Id: 2207180


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

I have 3.2 of this type of Sand Monitor (minus the babies). The males are all about 34-36" total length. The females are about 29-31". All are between 2.5 and 5 years of age and done with the explosive growth phase. They’re quite little Monitors actually.
02/27/11  10:27pm

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Stephen foo
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2207274


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Pretty much as iv read about them really except the females are smaller than i thought but what a stunning species very pretty monitors indeed.

steve
02/28/11  02:20am

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Krusty
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   Message To: Stephen foo   In reference to Message Id: 2207310


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Yeah, it’s odd. It looks like their SVL’s are almost the same but males just have much longer tails. I’d have to hold them down and measure to be certain, but it looks like this just on casual observation that the males tails are just a few inches longer.
02/28/11  11:17pm

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Krusty
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2207512


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

So the whole clutch hatched out in a range from 203-224 days. The ones that pipped early are set up in cages and doing very well so far. The stragglers are about to go in cages tomorrow. The ones that are already caged immediately dug intricate long tunnel systems under the substrate (hence the ochre/orangy staining seen on this baby) and have been really ’fossorial’ so far vs. Argus babies. I was surprised just how quickly this species wants to get burrowing. Pretty cool to observe them doing this all day. They also have really lightened and colored up from the tones they had when they pipped:



03/16/11  05:26pm

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Stephen foo
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2209896


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

They are great little monitors Justin , are you planning to keep one yourself or ??

steve
03/16/11  06:39pm

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Krusty
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   Message To: Stephen foo   In reference to Message Id: 2209914


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

I’m keeping all 6, Stephen. It took me 2 years, several combinations of animals, one female died on me, and a few bad clutches of infertiles just to get to producing this one clutch of babies. My other pair laid a whopping 4 egg clutch (of which only 2 went the distance) and those are due to hatch soon also. But that was it for viable eggs in 2010 from these two pairs of animals here. I’m raising the 6 babies all up in pairs and hoping I get a good ratio of females to males (2.4 would be nice ) and these will be my future breeders if all goes well. If by chance my two pairs of adults now suddenly start laying a lot of good eggs, I will sell some off in the future. But these are for me. LOL



03/16/11  08:36pm

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Krusty
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2209942


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Just an updated pic of one of the little tikes this weekend. I love these things:



04/25/11  03:53pm

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Mxracer
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2215913


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Just stunning. I really wish I could find one. Could you post a picture some time of your adults cage.

-Terry
04/25/11  06:27pm

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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2215913


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Nice looking monitor Justin, thanks for sharing!



04/26/11  04:18pm

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Krusty
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   Message To: Mdf   In reference to Message Id: 2216064


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Terry - this same old 10’x’5’x6’ cage is holding 1.1 of the Flavi adults. It formerly held a pair of Argus. The other Flavi pair is in a 8’x4’x4’ wooden box that is ugly as sin but it works. :)




04/27/11  08:49pm

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Stephen foo
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 2215913


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Swop you for my goldfish .................. well maybe not!! , cracking looking animal Justin.

steve
04/28/11  12:48pm

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DankLizard
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   Message To: Stephen foo   In reference to Message Id: 2216338


 1st Pipping Flavirufus

Hey Krusty probally dont remember me but i actually ran into u at a herp show in tampa i recall awhile back ,some reason I hada feeling it was u from this site and i asked u LOL kinda odd when u said ya thats me. Anyways im a generic lookin 19 yearold kid think we were scopin out a versicolor monitor or maybe they called it "rainbow monitor" hah. Ive contacted u a few times about argus way back but i was still livin with mama. Now that have my own space really have my mind set on a flavi and figured you would be the best guy to come to. Dont know if im allowed to ask on here but do you have any forsale at the moment? I live in Florida still so could always come to you rather than ship if you do. If its not allowed on here please email me back at lizardkidd @ gmail . com

Thanksalot, Steve.
05/07/11  05:41pm
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