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Another terrible vid......
http://youtu.be/iPVFHEIYi9Q Crocdoc, you’d be a good candidate. And you have a youtube acct....Just sayin lol. Anyways, more than one of us should try to steer her in the right direction. I do believe it can be done:) |
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| 05/24/11 03:39am |
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Message To: THX-Volpin In reference to Message Id: 2220726 Another terrible vid......
Regardless, she’s of ’that crowd’ that think monitors should free roam 24/7 and love to do everything ’differently’, even if their monitors keep dying young. I don’t think anyone in that crowd actually expects their monitors to live beyond a few years. They just keep replacing them and then post videos on monitor care, based on their amazing experience keeping one going for a whole two years. Start up a youtube account if you want to try talking her into some reasonable husbandry, but I’m not going to waste my time. |
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| 05/24/11 04:26am |
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Message To: Crocdoc In reference to Message Id: 2220727 Another terrible vid......
http://www.dragonsin Some parts in the above vid aren’t quite right to recognized current standard of monitor keeping but the dragons in da house keeper has breed them in there before, i’ll leave comment on health to the long time experts of the original vid. But the rat cage vid had no mention of humidity & was beyond belief .:( |
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| 05/24/11 04:37pm |
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Message To: Mdf In reference to Message Id: 2220811 Another terrible vid......
Quote: but the dragons in da house keeper has breed them in there before
Sorry, Mark, but I think this statement is a bit misleading as it gives the impression of these people successfully reproducing monitors under those conditions rather than haphazardly having a couple of near-dud clutches thrown by a couple of females. I’ve just had a look at the photographs of the monitors and read the notes on breeding. For starters, a few of those monitors are in rough shape. Some of them are barely more than skin and bones. As for the breeding, it’s important to go into the details to get the full picture. Yes, they’ve bred them. However, it was only twice over a six year span and even then it was two different pairs involved (one of the pairs may have bred again and I think they’re waiting on eggs to hatch at time of writing). All of those adult monitors yet only a couple of females have produced viable eggs and no one female has bred more than once over a six year span. That’s hardly stellar. In the two instances of actual breeding so far, in both cases the females nested poorly (in fact they didn’t nest at all, but laid the eggs on the surface) and in one instance laid eggs over a few consecutive days, which is very bad. The eggs were laid 30 days after the last observed copulation and the courtship lasted two weeks, which means the eggs were laid around six weeks after the first copulation (four weeks after first copulation is normal and healthy). Of the eggs incubated, the hatch rate was 7 hatchlings out of 24 eggs for one clutch and 7 out of 16 for the second clutch. All of those things point at less than ideal husbandry. Healthy monitors in properly dialed in conditions are egg-making machines, producing a minimum of one clutch per female per year and more typically, two to three or more (depending on the species). Gravid females given the appropriate conditions for living and nesting produce clutches of healthy eggs that are laid 30 days or so after first copulation (less for smaller species), are nested properly and have high hatch rates. T |
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