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#2265404 Dp525 View Profile	INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) Parthenogenesis is basically an asexual reproductive growth commonly recorded in frogs; to my knowledge. In other words a creature having babies with doing the dirty dance. The arrogance of man is ignored without fail once again. While doing my boring standard freelance genetics research I came across this tid bit of info. Pretty damn interesting and I will definitely be contacting these guys to get more info to share..I’M A SUPER NERD...lol CITATION: Hennessy James. "Parthenogenesis in an Ornate Nile Monitor, Varanus ornatus." The International Varanid Interest Group.2010. Received: 9 November 2009; Accepted: 15 March 2010 It’s on PDF in full if you want to download it, but may it not be accessible to everyone. I retrieved it off the server at the college I currently attend. I can email a copy to whoever wants it and can’t obtain it. I’m all about sharing knowledge!! IT HAS PHOTOS AND ALL!!! Here’s what I copied directly from the PDF Abstract: Parthenogenesis is documented in Varanus ornatus for the first time. A ten year old captive female V. ornatus laid a clutch of 21 eggs in July 2008 without ever coming into contact with a male. Two of the 21 eggs contained embryos. Information on the history and husbandry of the adult female is given as well as details of the reproductive event.
05/05/12  06:10pm
#2265409 Norf View Profile	Message To: Dp525   In reference to Message Id: 2265404  INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) I’ve heard it happen with Exanthematicus as well. Very cool.
05/05/12  08:13pm
#2265418 Dp525 View Profile	Message To: Norf   In reference to Message Id: 2265409  INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) Not surprised; the monitor species overall is a hardy species they mad this far in evolution I’m quite sure they’ll show us more of their survival surprises.
05/05/12  11:20pm
#2265420 Milkweed666 View Profile	Message To: Dp525   In reference to Message Id: 2265418  INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) A question a little off the parthenogenesis topic. I was googling evolution of monitors and came across some info stating some monitors to be slightly venemous, other than the bacteria in a komodos mouth. Do u guys know which species are? I couldnt find which species, i think it may have mentioned the lace monitor.
05/06/12  12:04am
#2265432 Shaneluvsmonitors View Profile	Message To: Milkweed666   In reference to Message Id: 2265420  INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) Currently documented in lacies, griseus, komodos... personally im of the opinion that every sp of varanid is venomous albeit in an extremely mild form... otherwise whats with the odd lumps in the bottom jaw?
05/06/12  05:55am
#2265462 SalvatorREX View Profile	Message To: Shaneluvsmonitors   In reference to Message Id: 2265432  INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) i agree
05/06/12  12:54pm
#2265466 B_iawak View Profile	Message To: SalvatorREX   In reference to Message Id: 2265462  INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) Since it seems as though none of you are familiar with the publication, the article that you are referring to was published in the monitor lizard research journal BIAWAK, whose issues are free for anyone with a computer and working internet connection to subscribe to and download: Link The next issue will be published shortly, so be sure to sign up for a subscription.
05/06/12  01:13pm
#2265467 B_iawak View Profile	Message To: B_iawak   In reference to Message Id: 2265466  INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) In case you missed them, scroll down to the bottom of that page for download links to back issues of the journal.
05/06/12  01:15pm
#2265494 Dp525 View Profile	Message To: Milkweed666   In reference to Message Id: 2265420  INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) Hmmm I know a little I’m currently tracking historical info on the Varanus genus. but to my knowledge as far as current stuff I have to dig back through it... but I can tell you that they all monitors (with some speculation are decedents of Varanus ’Megalania’ priscus; a dino fore father which scientist basically say was the longest Dino at 5.5 meters and was VENOMOUS as well. So with that being the only available data ’ as it stands,’ one can only assume ’just liek the PhD’s always do that all monitors have some sort of venom. IN addition like allot of people know monitor venom is being used in aids research and as a possible blood thinner blah blah blah.. Below I copied and pasted a more academic explanation with the CITATION, let me know if it helps! CITATION: Nature 439, 584-588 (2 February 2006) | doi:10.1038/nature04328 "Early evolution of the venom system in lizards and snakes." Toxinological analyses of venom components from the Lace Monitor Varanus varius showed potent effects on blood pressure and clotting ability, bioactivities associated with a rapid loss of consciousness and extensive bleeding in prey. The iguanian lizard Pogona barbata retains characteristics of the ancestral venom system, namely serial, lobular non-compound venom-secreting glands on both the upper and lower jaws, whereas the advanced snakes and anguimorph lizards (including Monitor Lizards, Gila Monster and Beaded Lizard) have more derived venom systems characterized by the loss of the mandibular (lower) or maxillary (upper) glands
05/06/12  08:01pm
#2265506 Dp525 View Profile	Message To: Dp525   In reference to Message Id: 2265494  INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) Some conflicting info on the origin topic I hit on forgot to post it, I have to be fairand bias on everything i post... CITATION 2007 Teresa Dang V. komodoensis share a common ancestor with dinosaurs, but do not descend from them. Both V. komodoensis and dinosaurs belong to the subclass Diapsida which is branched into two infraclasses: Archosauria (dinosaurs, including birds) and Lepidosauria (tuataras, lizards, and snakes). Fossil records show that around 100 million years ago, during the Cretaceous period, a species related to the present-day Varanidae appeared and reached Australia by about 15 million years ago.
05/06/12  09:18pm
#2265632 Chad Lane View Profile	Message To: Dp525   In reference to Message Id: 2265506  INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) What is a Ornate Nile? They haven’t been recognized as Ornate Niles since 1992.... Cheers, Chad
05/08/12  12:19am
#2265824 Dp525 View Profile	Message To: Chad Lane   In reference to Message Id: 2265632  INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) Honestly it a preference thing... allot of researchers I know stilllllll use it; doesn’t make it right or wrong. as long as everyone knows what their referring to it doesn’t seem to bother select parts of academia, depending on who you talk to. data is all that matters to me....
05/09/12  06:35pm
#2265885 Chad Lane View Profile	Message To: Dp525   In reference to Message Id: 2265824  INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) No it’s not a preference thing, it’s simply incorrect, I don’t know any offical researcher or academics that still use the old name as it’s incorrect. Cheers, Chad
05/10/12  01:53am
#2265903 Krusty View Profile	Message To: Chad Lane   In reference to Message Id: 2265885  INTERESTING INFO ON ORNATE NILES (Varanus Ornatus) It’s not a preference thing, I agree. It’s old text from 20 years ago or more if someone is still saying "ornate nile", and "scientists" or anything academic would refer to them only by genus and species, not common names anyhow. They are two entirely different species that are physically built differently and live in different regions and habitats in Africa. They both just happen to be black and yellow colored and superficially similar looking: 1. Varanus niloticus The "Nile Monitor". 2. Varanus ornatus The "Ornate Monitor".
05/10/12  11:24am

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