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 #667788


Sade
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 Loch Ness Monster

There’s a new videotape of ’Champ’ who is supposed to be the New York version of the loch ness monster...
Everyones description is of it being about 10-12 feet long, with a head about as big around as a human leg. They also all mention how they have no gills.

If it wasn’t the temperature of water it is in both places, it would certainly seem like a nile or water monitor to me... Although I guess you’d expect more tracks and sightings on land.


Sorry for the off track post. Just watched the new video and couldn’t help myself.... :-D
02/26/06  10:38am

 #668059


Mark bayless
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   Message To: Sade   In reference to Message Id: 667788


 Loch Ness Monster

Hi,
You’re referring to "Chessie" = the Lake champlaign sea serpent enigma. The Loch Ness animals, or "belua" as it was originally called by St. Columba was reportedly a sea-worm = very similar to this recent report, but Chessie is not a sea-worm, but more like a long necked plesiosaur as photographed and identified by the U.S. Navy as a ’non-fake, non-retouched’ photograph of a marine animal of unknown identity. There is a plethora of reported sightings of such creatures in all oceans for centuries. This is a project I have been working on for 1.5+ years now writing a treatise on this = and a possible identification of ’some’ (but not all) of these aquatic creatures...
Lots of fun this stuff....I would like to know where you saw this video clip - and get a copy of it if I can? For anyone interested, there is a report I can send you on the XL marine animal that lives here in S.F. Bay for anyone interested (Sam?)....
cheers,
markb



02/26/06  02:17pm

 #668130


TheReptile
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   Message To: Mark bayless   In reference to Message Id: 668059


 Loch Ness Monster

Hey Mark,
I’d be real interested in the report. I find this stuff fascinating. Can you email it to me??

-Zane Donaho-



02/26/06  02:58pm

 #668477


Mark bayless
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   Message To: TheReptile   In reference to Message Id: 668130


 Loch Ness Monster

Hi Zane,
Please email me at:
markb



02/26/06  07:01pm

 #668507


TheReptile
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   Message To: Mark bayless   In reference to Message Id: 668477


 Loch Ness Monster

The weird email thing happened, and prevented your email address from being displayed. Check your messages, I sent my email address to you.

-Zane Donaho-
02/26/06  07:23pm

 #668736


Sade
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   Message To: Mark bayless   In reference to Message Id: 668059


 Loch Ness Monster

go to comcast.net.

I have comcast internet, and it has high speed video clips of news reports. I found it there... :)



02/26/06  09:49pm

 #668788


DunceHP
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   Message To: Mark bayless   In reference to Message Id: 668059


 Loch Ness Monster

The creature’s name is "Champ" definitely. I am from the Lake Champlain region and it is true that there is a photo in existence that shows an unidentified aquatic creature swimming in the lake. What it is exactly is up to the experts to figure out. Just thought you would like to know.
02/26/06  10:20pm

 #668827


TheReptile
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   Message To: DunceHP   In reference to Message Id: 668788


 Loch Ness Monster

I found the video . . .

Champ - ABC News

-Zane Donaho-
02/26/06  10:39pm

 #668904


Mark bayless
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   Message To: TheReptile   In reference to Message Id: 668827


 Loch Ness Monster

Thanks - Yes I have heard the name Champ, Chessie, and other names applied - Cheesie came to mind first, but I’ll go with Champ. Does anyone know how to download the video clip to their own computers? If so, could they then email it to me for my files? My email is is you can it is most appreciated.

I would of course be MOST interested in any sighting reports anyone has clippings of, saw themselves, etc....
Thanks,
markb
02/26/06  11:29pm

 #695250


DunceHP
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   Message To: Mark bayless   In reference to Message Id: 668904


 Loch Ness Monster

Yeah, I’ve always been interested to know if he/she exists or not. One thing people don’t realize is that Lake Champlain and also Lock Ness are extremely large bodies of water and also extremely deep. Lake Champlain was actually close to becoming one of the great lakes years ago due to its size and the important role it played during war time. So I just think before people put the notion out of their mind, or play it off as folklore, they should realize the size of these lakes. It’s not like you can just hop in a fishing boat and cruise around for a few hours with a fish finder and expect to find something in a lake of that size. It’s a very interesting topic, indeed.



03/16/06  01:57pm

 #695853


Crocdoc
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   Message To: DunceHP   In reference to Message Id: 695250


 Loch Ness Monster

can they possibly have found a crappier video? After wading through countless ads and a lot of people talking smack, they showed some videos of water ripples and a squiggly line under water.

How inconclusive is that! Are there no fish in that lake? Hello, it’s a fish, probably an eel. Whoopee.

"looks like a serpent". No sh!t, sherlock, eels are long, squiggly and (dare I say it?) serpentine in shape.

So why is it, in this day and age where everyone and their brother has the latest in digital video equipment, videos of Elvis, aliens and ’sea serpents’ are always blurry, dodgy and completely lacking credibility?
03/16/06  08:14pm

 #695878


Razeraze
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   Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 695853


 Loch Ness Monster

crocdoc in youer honest opinion do you think any fables like 50 foot snakes and sea monsters hold any truth? i was watching a show recently on once thought extinct fish that were found and the kraken myth being linked to giant squid which until recently was never caught on tape.
03/16/06  08:25pm

 #695895


Crocdoc
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   Message To: Razeraze   In reference to Message Id: 695878


 Loch Ness Monster

In my honest opinion, 50 foot snakes and sea serpents are fables, nothing more. There’s a huge leap between finding a ’living fossil’ like the coelacanth in deep water off Madagascar, or even giant squid (the remains of which have been washing up on beaches for years before anyone got a video of a live one) and finding a living plesiosaur in Loch Ness, or a sea monster in Lake Champlain.

The coelacanth story is an interesting one, for sure, and makes fascinating reading. A similarly ancient tree species was found just outside of Sydney a few years ago, in the Wollemi wilderness. The nearest relatives of the Wollemi pine were thought to have gone extinct 65 million years ago.
03/16/06  08:33pm

 #695970


Razeraze
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   Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 695895


 Loch Ness Monster

i just see snakes 20-30 feet and think 50? very impracticle but i don’t think i could ever say impossible. the ocean seems very unexplored also such as the bloop phenomenon.

i always love the stories where humans think they have figured things out then something comes out of no where.
03/16/06  08:59pm

 #695991


Repta dude
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   Message To: Razeraze   In reference to Message Id: 695970


 Loch Ness Monster

has anyone ever heard of the 100ft snake... now how awsome but unbelieveably scary would that be.. theres suposedly a small number of 40+ft green anacondas deep into south american forests that have never been seen by any man then the native tribes in that area
03/16/06  09:07pm

 #696051


Mark bayless
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   Message To: Repta dude   In reference to Message Id: 695991


 Loch Ness Monster

Hi,
I am currently writing a book on giant reptiles: lizards, snakes and so on including this 100 foot snake....Im on page 415 right now and still 15 linear feet of materials to review! Back to salt mine...any accounts or sources you know of I would be interested in learning more about - if I dont already have it? Thanks.
markb
03/16/06  09:27pm

 #696082


Crocdoc
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   Message To: Mark bayless   In reference to Message Id: 696051


 Loch Ness Monster

There’s a long standing offer of $50,000 for a 30 foot snake (never mind 40, 50, 100). So far, no one has come up with one.
03/16/06  09:40pm

 #696105


Razeraze
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   Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 696082


 Loch Ness Monster

right but a few in captivity are close. baby is 27 feet and i think 500 lbs. lou also has a green anaconda 22 feet. bob clark has a few over 20 feet. not to mention some places are still very unexplored. remember crocdoc that reward is only if trapped alive and brought to the bronx zoo.

mark have you talked to bill lemar? he was the only one i know of to kill an anaconda 20+ feet.
03/16/06  09:50pm

 #698015


SHvar
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   Message To: Razeraze   In reference to Message Id: 696105


 Actually that reward has grown much over the years..

Several sources have a reward to exceed 30ft, one was many years ago, Teddy Roosevelt (still stands today unclaimed) it requires some proof. There are rewards for any snake over 30ft that total some 25 million dollars, between the Smithsonian, and others.
If indeed so many snakes are so close, it should have been claimed years ago by a few. The rewards require a snake, live or dead, not a skin, which can be stretched over 1/3 its real length.
Some of these rewards have been available since the late 1800s, they just keep growing. The world record skins were 33ft retic skins, nice try, that makes them a possible 21ft in real life, a good friend had a 23ft retic.



03/18/06  12:45pm

 #698117


Mark bayless
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   Message To: SHvar   In reference to Message Id: 698015


 Actually that reward has grown much over the years..

Hi all,
I am familiar with the "Big Snake" $$$ - but the accounts of these mega-snakes are what intrigues me more; most of these reports are of aquatic forms. In the new book, "Snakes of Sulawesi" is a segment on the Reticulated Python and valid accounts of them ingesting humans - a good clear pic is depicted in that book of a adult human inside a snake, and it is not an isolated account!

The reports of mega-snakes occur generally around the Amazon basin and in pelagic oceania for the most part - the former is most likely the anaconda and the latter a reptilian-type sea serpent with a propensity for carnivorous diet (i.e. whales, humans) - as depcited in many a-B-Movies....Reptilicus, Sea Serpent, Behemoth, etc... Please don’t take me wrong, I am NOT saying Holywood films are proof of sea serpents, but I am saying there are accounts of such animals killing whales and Humans. Its fun reading/research to be sure...
cheers,
markb



03/18/06  02:10pm

 #698199


Razeraze
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   Message To: Mark bayless   In reference to Message Id: 698117


 Actually that reward has grown much over the years..

i feel i can’t rule anything out. nature has a way of always surprising me.
03/18/06  03:11pm

 #699044


SHvar
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   Message To: Razeraze   In reference to Message Id: 698199


 Hey. some Australians belive there is a 30ft..

Goanna running around their country, also many people believe in the sasquatch, the abominable snowman, in the chupacabra, nessie, giant man eating snakes that have killed and swallowed whole conquistadors.
Oh I have pictures of a retic that was shot, then cut open to reveal a (supposed) adult man inside, only the pictures were released with a series of other pictures, the ones explaining what happened. A small boy was payed to smear blood all over himself and climb inside where he posed for a picture in a cut open snake, there were also pictures taken afterwards with the boy laughing and smiling next to the snakes butchered body.
There was one incident with a very small man in Indonesia about 4ft tall that was killed one night by a 25 ft retic, it attempted for hours to swallow but could not get past his shoulders, it regurged his head then was shot by local authorities which posed for pics with it.
Even you could create your own "snake swallows human pictures" for probably a small fee in Asia, Africa, or South America, you could probably get some here in the US for the right price, lol..
03/18/06  11:49pm

 #699079


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   Message To: SHvar   In reference to Message Id: 699044


 Hey. some Australians belive there is a 30ft..

I agree with you 100% SHvar. If there were such things then why after years and years of reports hasn’t anyone found them? There are thousands of big foot sightings but no one has a body or a skeleton. Same with Nessie, there are no bodies that have washed up or anything. I have heard of a story about a man that found and killed a 125 foot anaconda. He couldn’t drag it back to the village so he went to get help and when he came back it was gone. Now where would a dead, 125 foot (thing must have weighed several thousand pounds) snake go? I would have cut off its head and put it in my back pack so I had some proof. He killed it with a machete supposedly. Point is, none of these things could remain in hiding especially with all of the technology we have.
03/19/06  12:09am

 #699107


Mark bayless
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   Message To: Pugmar   In reference to Message Id: 699079


 Hey. some Australians belive there is a 30ft..

There have been several reports of beached dead sea serpents, but those are largely ignored - and regretably, fewer of them made it to museum collections = I have tracked one report to BMNH (London) but they cannot find the specimens - they are tracking down the original correspondence for me....perhaps that will help?

A specimen was dragged ashore and cut into pieces in Singapore ~1900 and it was beautifully described - as yet unknown - You’re all correct, there are no bodies of these things floating in alcohol, but the circumstantial evidence should not be ignored either - and it is fun writing and reading...and we need as much ’fun’ these dire times are in right now....
cheers,
markb



03/19/06  12:28am

 #699122


Pugmar
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   Message To: Mark bayless   In reference to Message Id: 699107


 Hey. some Australians belive there is a 30ft..

With the ocean, I wouldn’t be surprised to find large sea serpents and things like that. We know more about space and the moon than we do our own ocean. But with these lakes with "monsters" in them, how is it possible that we don’t find a body. How long do these things live? There have been reports of nessie for decades, even centuries.
03/19/06  12:44am

 #699134


Repta dude
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   Message To: Pugmar   In reference to Message Id: 699122


 Hey. some Australians belive there is a 30ft..

yea this is exactly what they said about giant squid... can’t exist and even better then that the cracken a squid proven to be 3 times larger then a ginat squid... whos to say in the most remoted parts of the world where trees tower 100ft and a plane helicopter w/e can’t see in there thats there not some giant snake..or even a few. the only way to get into those places is by walking, hiking, 4 wheeling.... and face it theres no way even been through the deepest parts of the amazons theres NO WAY... no one has any right to say it doens’t exist or with our fancy technology why havn’t we found it yet...



03/19/06  01:02am

 #699533


Treemonitors
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   Message To: Repta dude   In reference to Message Id: 699134


 Hey. some Australians belive there is a 30ft..

yeah, that’s right. Unicorns also exist, but our fancy technology hasn’t been able to make the discovery just yet.....
03/19/06  12:09pm

 #699704


Mark bayless
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   Message To: Treemonitors   In reference to Message Id: 699533


 Hey. some Australians belive there is a 30ft..

Unicorns are a Germanic origins so ask them where they came from.... the most frightful animal on the European Continent ca. 1000 A.D. was the horse as it allowed one to have ’calvalry’ that could decimate infantry....more modified by the 15th century of course.

The horns of the Narwhal - as seen encrusted on the oldest Throne in Europe = Denmark’s original seat of a King (now in Rosenberg’s Castle, Kopenhavn) was said to have come from the most ferocious animal - the horned horse, but actually came from the horned whale - see how legends change and are altered....

As for lake monsters - look how enormous Lake Champlaign is or Lake Eyre, or Lake Victoria (Africa) = ENORMOUS - a small ocean - plenty of room for (Tanker) ships and sea serpents...
cheers,
markb



03/19/06  01:54pm

 #700223


Repta dude
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   Message To: Mark bayless   In reference to Message Id: 699704


 Hey. some Australians belive there is a 30ft..

a claimed 49 ft python with some pics and video.. look on the internet indonesian ginat python its all over ..http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3845750/
03/19/06  07:54pm

 #700236


Repta dude
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   Message To: Repta dude   In reference to Message Id: 700223


 Hey. some Australians belive there is a 30ft..

one more of an estimated 40+ foot python captured in the congo by a belgium helicopter pilot back in 1959.. it was scaled by the local trail it is laying on.... Link
03/19/06  08:00pm
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