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 #723396


Pugmar
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 Life expectancy?

I have a few questions. First, what is the life expectancy of argus monitors and ackie monitors? Second, what is a good incubater for a first time lizard breeder? This is all for future reference so don’t ask if I am breeding anything without knowing what I am doing.
04/03/06  08:20pm

 #723409


Krusty
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   Message To: Pugmar   In reference to Message Id: 723396


 Life expectancy?

probably 10 to 13 years for Argus, not sure for Ackies but probably similar or slightly shorter.
04/03/06  08:25pm

 #723448


JPsShadow
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   Message To: Pugmar   In reference to Message Id: 723396


 Life expectancy?

hmmm life expectancy?? Guess that depends who has it and there experience level.



04/03/06  08:44pm

 #723477


Pugmar
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   Message To: JPsShadow   In reference to Message Id: 723448


 Life expectancy?

I am talking about if it had the temps perfect, the cage perfect, the works. How long are they supposed to live?
04/03/06  08:59pm

 #723482


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   Message To: Pugmar   In reference to Message Id: 723477


 Life expectancy?

does it matter...?A long time...?
04/03/06  09:04pm

 #723754


Shawdow
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   Message To: TheBandit1   In reference to Message Id: 723482


 Life expectancy?

Who’s to say someones cage is perfect? Who’s to say if the temps. are perfect? I dont think anyone keeps there animals in ’perfect’ conditions. Unless you can provide the animal its natural habitat and range, then I would say there is no such thing as perfect.
04/03/06  11:42pm

 #723803


Pugmar
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   Message To: Shawdow   In reference to Message Id: 723754


 Life expectancy?

Listen, all I wanted to know is how long is the animal supposed to live in captivity. If it dies at 5 years old then I know I did something wrong, if it dies at 10 years did I do something wrong? I know you can’t make "perfect conditions" Heres a better question, whats their lifespan?



04/04/06  12:11am

 #723808


Shawdow
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   Message To: Pugmar   In reference to Message Id: 723803


 Life expectancy?

That all depends on you and your care. I’ve heard of varanids living 20 + years in captivity. But who knows, many, many things can unexpectadly occur. So as to your answer, there is no exact answer that anyone can give you.
04/04/06  12:14am

 #723811


Pugmar
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   Message To: Shawdow   In reference to Message Id: 723808


 Life expectancy?

Could you give me an average? Like between 10-20 years, something like that.
04/04/06  12:19am

 #723877


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   Message To: Pugmar   In reference to Message Id: 723811


 Life expectancy?

Under good conditions, large monitors will live 20-35 years, depending on species. I know of Komodo dragons and lace monitors that have lived beyond this.

Small monitors like ackies can easily live 15 or more years. I know of someone with 15 year old brevicauda that are still breeding and going strong.
04/04/06  01:35am

 #724808


Pugmar
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   Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 723877


 Life expectancy?

Thank you Crocdoc, thats what I was looking for.
04/04/06  07:01pm

 #725094


Krusty
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   Message To: Crocdoc   In reference to Message Id: 723877


 Life expectancy?

a female still breeding at 15???? that’s impressive.
04/04/06  09:31pm

 #725328


Meee
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   Message To: Krusty   In reference to Message Id: 725094


 Life expectancy?

this happens to be an occurring trend. the first person gives a decent answer than almost everyone starts arguing for like 7 posts then some one answers again. sometimes we just get into the arguing right away. why?
04/05/06  12:12am

 #725340


JPsShadow
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   Message To: Meee   In reference to Message Id: 725328


 Life expectancy?

It is called discussion. If you ask a question that has an exact answer or ask it in a way an answer can be given it also helps.

To leave the question up in the air as in this case, you are bound to get replies along those lines.

That is why i asked the question back to the poster, to answer him i needed to know where he was coming from. On average you’ll find the life expactancy is very low compared to the answers he was given. As was mentioned their life expactancy depends greatly upon support given. Sadly many people do not offer enough support to see their monitor get passed 5 years of age. So should we then have answered with that? should we answer with how long it has been stated they live in the wild? Or should we reply with abnormalities over achievers? etc.??

Working with something that is alive and constantly changing it is hard to give a definitive answer, as then the answer will not be able to in turn change. That is why you will not always be able to get a straight answer. Some people get mad and argue when they do not get that type of answer.

That is just my take on it. But anyways what does it matter? we all come here to discuss topics and talk and that certainly is what goes on.



04/05/06  12:23am

 #725350


Meee
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   Message To: JPsShadow   In reference to Message Id: 725340


 Life expectancy?

JPsShadow, was that first sentence directed at meee? if so i meant why do people argue, i know on many cases people don’t answer and immediately go into criticizing.



04/05/06  12:30am

 #726443


Pugmar
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   Message To: JPsShadow   In reference to Message Id: 725340


 Life expectancy?

You’re right JPsShadow, life expectancy was the wrong word. I meant lifespan. Sorry
04/05/06  07:39pm

 #726743


Krusty
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   Message To: Pugmar   In reference to Message Id: 726443


 Life expectancy?

life"span" .....yes, that is different. probably longer than my guesstimates as crocdoc alluded to. i was assuming a keeper who gives good to average care. a zoo may get closer to "span" than avg. keepers due to regular vet checks and good diet and supplementing and large enclosures, blah, blah, blah...they have more space and funding than most private keepers.
04/05/06  10:02pm


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