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Rick_Albig View Profile |
Something to consider........
The wounds in the pictures below are nothing spectacular (although the pictures are taken several hours later after the bleeding stopped!) Many keepers on here have sustained far worse! However these were not caused by an aggressive monitor, they are not from an attack or bite or even from a big animal. They are in fact from my extremely placid and friendly 2.5 foot BABY black throat, Munch. She caused these by simply maneuvering herself and walking up and down my arms. The power of there animals is unreal, and attached to the end of all four of those impressive limbs are 5 razor sharp claws! Just think, if this is the damage that can be caused by a BABY who was simply walking on me, what could a big aggressive, defensive monitor do to you? Remember these are wild animals and are extremely dangerous! Not suitable for children!
The culprit!
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| 07/18/06 12:00pm |
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AlbigCrazy View Profile |
Message To: Rick_Albig In reference to Message Id: 890822 Something to consider........
I was bitten by a 4.5-5 foot male albig, on the chest=60+stitches. This was some 1.2+ ago, at the time i did not own a camera. So i do not have any pix of the bite. I almost have no scars besides a few from the stitches. These animals are extremely powerful! Then you go into the gouldii complex where there VERY strong, and FAST, they can split you open without you even knowing! Hopefully, Adrian will chime in, and do some show and tell about salvadorii. I have only been bitten by a very small % of the monitors I’ve had/handled/worked with. Every single one was my fault and in there defense, they either felt scared or threaten. These amazing animals demand respect! Chad |
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| 07/18/06 12:22pm |
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SHvar View Profile |
Message To: Rick_Albig In reference to Message Id: 890822 Good idea, the many bites Ive suffered that most should have required..
My last bite, and possibly the only one with a picture of was from my flavi-argus, it was the first bite in years from a monitor. Keep in mind Ive had a bone broken in one finger, multiple teeth pierce 2 sides of 2 fingers and a thumb, and countless others, most of these have been from albigs. The flavi-argus bit was different, I felt a pulsing pain within seconds of the bite that lasted for 2 days, this pain traveled from the finger tip to my bicep, and on the second day to the wrist and forearm. The thumb had 4 tooth holes, 2 pierced through the thumbnail, and 2 from the thumb print side, both crossed over around the bone. To me the effects were as many venomous bites are to some people. He may not have the crushing power Ive witnessed in albigs but more than Asian species seem to be able to exert. After 2 days of flushing with betadine, rebandaging every 4-6 hours, and finally flushing them gluing the injury together, which had to be reglued constantly for a few weeks to heal right, it came out fine with the scars barely noticeable. This was a split second warning bite only. Here it is after the first gluing.
I couldnt even begin to imagine what could happen with an albig Sobeks size biting someone, Im glad shes never tried to. Im sure a few bones would break. |
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| 07/18/06 01:16pm |
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MarkZ28 View Profile |
Message To: AlbigCrazy In reference to Message Id: 890875 Something to consider........
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| 07/18/06 01:17pm |
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Mark bayless View Profile |
Message To: MarkZ28 In reference to Message Id: 890978 Something to consider........
I was bitten quite a few times by any Varanus - but my worse was one between thumb and fore-finger that in just a few hours caused near-fatal septicemia...so be careful out-there! Most bites can be treated with betadine, alcohol, and ice to stop the swelling and throbbing that incurs when the blood vessels are crushed. cheers, mark |
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| 07/18/06 03:13pm |
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Shawdow View Profile |
Message To: Mark bayless In reference to Message Id: 891175 Something to consider........
This one is a bit blurry, but just gives you an idea. This was a few minutes after the bite. I had to wear bangages, guaz pads, and antibacterial cream. Did that for a week or two.
Cheers, Adrian |
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| 07/18/06 11:49pm |
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Razaiel View Profile |
Message To: Shawdow In reference to Message Id: 892185 Something to consider........
~Sue |
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| 07/19/06 04:20am |
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Razeraze View Profile |
Message To: Shawdow In reference to Message Id: 892185 Something to consider........
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| 07/19/06 08:18am |
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Ross grant View Profile |
Message To: Razeraze In reference to Message Id: 892616
that was my tokay gecko a lizard only 8 inches long imagine the damage something4-5 times as big could do, do not lose respect for any of your lizards or you could lose a finger ha ha. |
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| 07/19/06 08:59am |
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MarkZ28 View Profile |
Message To: Ross grant In reference to Message Id: 892651 Something to consider........
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| 07/19/06 05:14pm |
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AlbigCrazy View Profile |
Message To: MarkZ28 In reference to Message Id: 893458 Something to consider........
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| 07/27/06 07:29pm |
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Razorz View Profile |
Message To: AlbigCrazy In reference to Message Id: 909241 Something to consider........
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| 07/28/06 12:05am |
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Razaiel View Profile |
Message To: Razorz In reference to Message Id: 909717 Something to consider........
Quote: someone go piss off their monitor and take your camera with you :P
Er ... no thanks :D I got bit by my smallest rankins dragon the other day - it was so funny - I was feeding him a waxworm (just an occasional treat) and he chomped onto my finger LMAO - I hardly felt it it was funny to see the little guy hanging there though :D Worst bites I’ve ever had is from my parrot :( he’s an amazon type and like monitors are, they’ll hang on and not let go - little $%&* |
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| 07/28/06 03:37am |
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Razeraze View Profile |
Message To: Razaiel In reference to Message Id: 909947 Something to consider........
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| 07/28/06 11:01am |
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Stoner04 View Profile |
Message To: Razeraze In reference to Message Id: 910211 Something to consider........
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| 07/29/06 05:50am |
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DRZRider View Profile |
Message To: Stoner04 In reference to Message Id: 911630 Something to consider........
Seriously though, I avoid the mouth of my male Dumeril. He has some crunch power. |
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| 07/29/06 08:27am |
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Razeraze View Profile |
Message To: Stoner04 In reference to Message Id: 911630 Something to consider........
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| 07/29/06 11:29am |
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Tygregrrl View Profile |
Message To: Rick_Albig In reference to Message Id: 890822 Something to consider........
I haven’t been bitten or injured by my girl... My igs are a different story, and my younger male iguana I hands down place as being more aggressive them my monitor. I have more scars then I can count from my iguanas, and some quite severe, but only one of those was a bite. The rest were scratches, which happens when you handle an arboreal lizard of any size. I’m blessed to have a black throat that is somewhat of an exeption to the rule. I attribute a lot of it to her personality, I was prepared to suffer the occasional bite/scratch/whip when I decided to get a monitor. But she has never shown overt aggression, she just doesn’t have that drive towards people generally. I attribute it to the fact that she had to be dropper fed as a hatchling for a few months, and was handled carefully and gently almost constantly when she was very young by people that knew what they were doing. I’m sure that made a huge difference in her attitude, people have just never struck her as a threat at all, she doesn’t have much of that instinct of fear towards humans. But I only give her attitude about 30% credit for me not having been bitten... Honestly, it’s in handling and enviroment, in my opinion. You have to tailor the type and amount of handling to your specific monitor.. My girl, I pet her often and encourage others to do the same, but it’s always just a couple finger rub for a few seconds on top of her shoulders. I stop before she gets annoyed or walks away so that it’s not an irritating thing for her. I allow her out of her cage on occasion, I just open the door and let her come out and go where she wants while I watch her closely. I’ll pick her up to put her back in her cage, but other then that I don’t pick her up. I pet her when she’s out and about in her cage, and I leave her alone when she wants to be left there. And her cage is in a hardly used area of the house, I wander back and check on her throughout the day, but other then that it’s nice and quiet around her all the time and she’s comfortable and feels safe. The big one that takes a while to learn to gauge and that beginner monitor owners need to understand is that I don’t pet her when she’s got food infront of her or on it’s way, I don’t pet her when she’s just finished eating and is still in food mode. I would be willing to bet that first time monitor owners get hurt more from trying to handle their monitor when it’s thinking about food then any other reason.. I think handling is important, if you need to get to a vet or move houses you need to be able to do so in a way that’s least stressful to the monitor, and if they’re used to you it won’t be as hard on either involved. But I leave her alone as much as possible, and always interact with her within her own comfort zone. Once you push them out of that, but handling them too long or forcing contact, you’re permitting a negative experience that they are going to remember next time. All that being said, I have no doubt whatsoever that if there was a fire and I had to grab her out of her cage and get out of the house, I’d end up with plenty of stitches from the experience. But I think with constant and consistent interaction with your monitor keeping within their comfort level, you greatly increase the ease of handling for both parties... :) |
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| 07/31/06 12:23pm |
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AlbigCrazy View Profile |
Message To: Tygregrrl In reference to Message Id: 914724 Something to consider........
haha Chad |
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| 07/31/06 04:03pm |
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Razeraze View Profile |
Message To: AlbigCrazy In reference to Message Id: 915091 Something to consider........
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| 07/31/06 04:29pm |
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Krusty View Profile |
Message To: Razeraze In reference to Message Id: 915135 Something to consider........
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| 07/31/06 08:28pm |
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Nizzzate View Profile |
Message To: Krusty In reference to Message Id: 915614 Something to consider........
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| 08/01/06 03:40am |
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Something to consider........
