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 #1584318


Icu844
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 Hi

I am new to this forum. Although I only have one Gonocephalus chameleontinus (which is a story unto itself) I maintain a colony of Helmeted Iguanas (Corythophanes critatus and hernandizii) although they are not horned they do have a helmet and their husbandry is very similar.

the above photo is critatus. More familiar in the pet industry. Here is hernandizzi. the difference is quite noticable.

Hoping to contribute. Thanks. JERRY



01/18/08  08:34pm

 #1584492


Lizard boy 101
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  Message To: Icu844   In reference to Message Id: 1584318


 Hi

o they are GORGEOUS. may i asked where you purchased them and for how much/

alex



01/18/08  09:57pm

 #1584835


EMWhite
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  Message To: Icu844   In reference to Message Id: 1584318


 Hi

Hi!
How many of the cristatus do you have? I recently acquired a group of 5 of the, 2.3 and they are a strangely magnificent animal. I have wanted the hernandezi for a long time, but, they have been in short supply, and, when available, very expensive. As asked above, where did you get the latter? Great lizards!


Evan


P.S. Hi to everyone else! I’m back, briefly, sort of..... Hope you’ve all been well!



01/19/08  12:29am

 #1585158


Damnitbonnie
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  Message To: EMWhite   In reference to Message Id: 1584835


 Hi

Hi Evan. Nice to hear from you.

Those are absolutly beautiful.

Bonnie



01/19/08  10:45am

 #1585308


Icu844
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  Message To: Damnitbonnie   In reference to Message Id: 1585158


 Thank you

The Hernandizzi are as you indicated not readily available, they wholesale anywhere between 75 to 100 ea. I have 8 currently, and I must admit even with the 12 Cristatus, it is a bit difficult to sex them because their helmet is usually the key to their sex. Here is another photo

My source presently has dried up, but my ear is always to the ground and I do have excellent channels on imported items. The final Corytophanes which I do not have is percarinatus. I can post some photos at a later date. In either case , I am always looking to increase my knowledge base on these animals as I am putting together a site devoted to them. The biggest problem is their eating. I would love to hear from anyone else and what they use as food source. I have tried everything except filet minion ! JERRY



01/19/08  01:09pm

 #1585367


Damnitbonnie
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  Message To: Icu844   In reference to Message Id: 1585308


 Thank you

Are they not eating or just being fussy? I did a bit of googling (as I’m sure you have) and found they can be tricky to keep. Are parasites an issue? I also read that they can inflict a nasty bite.

Bonnie



01/19/08  01:43pm

 #1585538


Icu844
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  Message To: Damnitbonnie   In reference to Message Id: 1585367


 Its not that they are fussy eaters

they seem to be selective and even under those circumstances, rather difficult. I have provided them with Hornworms, Silkworms, Phoenix worms, Wax worms, Mealworms and the old standby crickets. Sometimes they are attracted , and sometimes they are not. It never ceases to amaze me. So presently I am sticking with crickets. I have tried roaches as well. But they are to fast moving. The answer are flying prey such as large moths, but thats not easy to aquire. Even pinkies which would give them weight are not attracted to them. So crickets it is ! What is important is that their is running water in all my cages. I can put up a photo of my water fall. If you are lucky as I was, I picked up 5 of them for 10 bucks each because they were looking to get rid of them. Its critical for these tree dwellers to see the water moving. It keeps them hydrated and they seem to deficate in the water.

Their are a few males that are very aggressive...................toward me ! They will come down from their perch and literally are looking for a fight. They will bite. This always seems to occur when I am placing a dish of mealworms in their area. Its not a bad bite but they hit and run. Sometime I have to arrange the plastic plants and they snap at my fingers and dart off. Its funny . David and Goliath.

With regard to parasites, I have never treated anything for anything. I think its a bigger error to stress these herps out more than they are already stressed out. I have not lost any. I keep the groups together and never noticed fighting between the males. Head bobbing yes, which can be a sign for mating advances, but no fighting. I dont know what would be correct as a treatment because I would not know what I was treating. Secondly, my familiarity to parasites is none. So I dont fix things . Meanwhile they are doing fine. Its been a year now, and I have lost only 1 little guy. They are easy to care for and require minimum maintainance. Hope this info helps. JERRY



01/19/08  03:54pm

 #1586497


EMWhite
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  Message To: Icu844   In reference to Message Id: 1585538


 Its not that they are fussy eaters

Hi,
I wanted to mention, in regards to one earlier post, that I found the helmets to not really be terribly accurate in terms of sexing them??? I have 2 males and 3 females (I ordered 4 females, but you know how it goes) and the crests look virtually identical. I found that the two males have pillar-like bases to their tails. Not in the way a MHD male does, but, it looks as though their tail just suddenly gets thinner. Kind of like on a telescope, you know, big sized ring gives way to a smaller one etc. I will try to get pics of mine up here so I can better illustrate the idea. That and the two males look identical. Same coloring and same patterning. Whereas the females look different form both of the males and one another. In terms of coloration and even patterning. I too was told that the crests were the sure fire way to sex them and maybe I am totally off, but, if you too had difficulties sexing them via the crest method, then maybe there is another more accurate way???


I have to say that I think your description of the males as charging towards you is about as accurate as one can put it. One of mine is much larger than the others and bites painfully hard. He’s made me bled a few times. He has no sense whatsoever in that he will even bite the hand that is holding him. Not terribly intelligent... Fortunately, as of now, the females seem to be OK temperament wise... Hopefully they stay that way......

About food, I should try some of the things you listed. I have only used crix yet, and it seems as though that is all they are interested in form me??? I did try earthworms (vie the MHDs) but no takers..... I know that a friend of mine has had luck with one or more of the larva you listed, and possibly different kinds... Not sure if the lizards took them of their own accord, or just wouldn’t;t spit them out when placed in their mouths..... Regardless, mine seem OK on crix for the moment. Do you have good luck with the mealworms? I haven’t tried those yet.... (I’ve only had mine for about 1.2-2 months)

About hernendazi, I think Reptile Depot has them..... At least the pic and the price on their site seems to agree with their description. On KS they list them as being $100, but, I saw their booth at a reptile show about 4 months ago and they did indeed have hernendazii, though they were neither the site price of $60, or the KS price of $100, they were, I think $80. Go figure. I have thought about getting some, but haven;t had enough $$ yet for a larger group. (But will I ever??)

Anyway, if you’d like, I’ll try to get pics of mine up tomorrow or Monday. I haven;t taken any of yet, but I would love to share them with everyone, and maybe get some input form you about how they look etc.





Regards,
Evan



01/20/08  02:52am

 #1586580


Icu844
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  Message To: EMWhite   In reference to Message Id: 1586497


 Pictures would be great

Any photos of your set up would also be appreciated. What I have observed is that the hernandizzi like flying forms of food. So what I do is buy wax worms and allow them to morph out into moths and put them in the cage. They do eat them ! I just wish I could get larger flying prey. I just dont know what or where ! Here are some photos of the elusive 3rd species in the group. Percarinatus. What makes them so unusual is that they are livebearers. Go figure that one out!!!!

and here is a 2nd photo

They do come into the country very infrequently, but its something that I have been waiting for 2 years now. JERRY



01/20/08  08:59am

 #1586646


Damnitbonnie
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  Message To: Icu844   In reference to Message Id: 1586580


 Pictures would be great

Grow the hornworms into moths. They are definatly larger. I am lucky enough to live within 15 minutes of Greatlakes Hornworms. I’ve been buying from Rob ever since he started his business. Met him at our local show in Taylor, Mi.

Bonnie



01/20/08  10:07am

 #1587135


Icu844
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  Message To: Damnitbonnie   In reference to Message Id: 1586646


 Would they survive shipping

I would be interested in seeing some of these hornworm moths. Can they be shipped live or possibly the pupae? You can email me privately at: Do the cristatus eat them ?



01/20/08  04:45pm

 #1587180


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  Message To: Icu844   In reference to Message Id: 1586580


 Pictures would be great

Hi,
I think the best chance of getting any of the rarer Corytophanes stems from knowing an importer personally, or at least professionally, enough so that, whenever they may get shipments of the regular helmeteds in you can go through them and see if perchance there are any of the rarer. The pics you posted were from and individual who did that very thing. Maybe, if you can pick them out of large shipments of cristatus, you can get larger groups for less $$$.

It all depends, I know that is what I am hoping for, I know an importer who is supposedly going to have Acanthosaura armata here in a week or two, basically in the way I just described. I think trying to import these animals specifically (ie, "I want hernandezi only etc) instantly raises the prices. But, if you can catch them when they have been accidently mixed in with large shipments of the less expensive kind, you stand a better chance of getting them... Maybe.... Same thing with Rhacophorous frogs, but that’s a totally different matter!



Evan



01/20/08  05:29pm

 #1587457


Icu844
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  Message To: EMWhite   In reference to Message Id: 1587180


 I also have access to importers

but, I doubt you will find any percarinatus mixed in with cristatus. Anything is possible. I know that many of the cristatus come out of Honduras where percarinatus seem to originate from Guatemala . I will certainly keep my ears and eyes open. Meanwhile my group is holding up and one day I will hit upon the right food item to really put some weight on them. That is my main concern. Otherwise I keep them quite humid, with running water and plenty of foilage. They are a sit and wait type of a lizard.



01/20/08  08:10pm

 #1588336


Damnitbonnie
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  Message To: Icu844   In reference to Message Id: 1587457


 I also have access to importers

Here is his web site.

Hornworms

It’s really cold here right now. In the teens for the high. So I’m not sure if he’s shipping. Also I don’t think he sells the moths but if you buy the worms they come with food. You can also get extra food. They should eventually turn into moths. They grow best around 80 drgrees.

Don’t know if your lizards will eat them but mine LOVE em. I get tiny ones for the babies and as they grow I feed to the larger dragons.

Bonnie



01/21/08  02:30pm

 #1588357


Damnitbonnie
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  Message To: Damnitbonnie   In reference to Message Id: 1588336


 I also have access to importers

By the way. The MHD in the pics and videos section are mine. Not a very good photographer.

Bonnie



01/21/08  02:42pm

 #1627251


Yoshi55
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  Message To: Damnitbonnie   In reference to Message Id: 1588357


 I also have access to importers

I was reading all of the responses and saw they like flying insects better. I have a friend that is very interested in these animals as am I... So I listen and learn. But anywyas, if your still having problems try to tie your worms on s tring and either hang form the cage top and kind of vibrate the top for them to hear and feel. That will get their attention as you said they are a "sit and wait" type of group. Or you can just hold the string one by one and hit the side of the cage to encourage their eyes. I know this was posted up a while ago but tryin to help. And they are beautiful creatures by the way!! Good luck



02/17/08  04:37pm


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