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Crisco View Profile |
Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/14/08 08:57pm |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1735670 Need to know about my blood.
Regurges are symptoms of a bigger problem. One, if you move her for feeding, or your husbandry is off. What are the exact temps in her enclosure? What is the hot spot always at and what is the ambient? How do you provide that heat? |
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| 05/14/08 09:30pm |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1735717 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/14/08 09:35pm |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1735724 Need to know about my blood.
Advice, raise her ambient to 79-80. Raise her hot spot to 85-88. Provide her with fresh water daily. Bloods are picky about water for some reason... weird snake. Dont feed her for 3 weeks. Then offer her a pup or weanling rat. FT. Make sure it is completely thawed through. If she regurges again, take her to a good herp vet. Regurges are serious business. :( Oh, before I forget, how much does she weigh? Got a recent photo of her? |
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| 05/14/08 10:01pm |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1735773 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/14/08 10:10pm |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1735788 Need to know about my blood.
She take big rats all the time. I don’t know why she would do this now, with a little mouse. I’ll also get the temps up. |
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| 05/14/08 10:36pm |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1735827 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/14/08 11:17pm |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1735867 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/14/08 11:22pm |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1735869 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/15/08 01:42am |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1735931 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/15/08 07:42am |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1736019 Need to know about my blood.
What do you have the eggs in? |
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| 05/15/08 07:47am |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1736025 Need to know about my blood.
Quote: Build an Incubator Incubators have been around since the beginning of time. Really, they are called maternal incubators! Pythons maternally incubate their eggs and in some cases actually elevate their body temperature above the surrounding temperatures of their environment. In captivity it is best to remove the eggs from the mother and artificially incubate them. When you do this, you have to factor several things at once for success: 1) Temperature, 2) Humidity, 3) Airflow, and 4) Protection. Temperature is straight forward with a good proportional thermostat. There are many on the market, but my favorites are the Helix DBS-1000 and the Spyder Robotics line of thermostats. For most python species, the appropriate incubation temperature ranges from 89-92F though higher or lower temperatures still CAN be successful, mortality increases dramatically. Humidity is another key factor and too little can also increase mortality with pythons. In general, you want 100% humidity with fresh air exchange to avoid mold growth and stale air. An open container of water in the incubator combined with the appropriately hydrated incubation medium is the key to success. Perlite and vermiculite are the best in my opinion though other media including no media have also been used with some success. I prefer to use course vermiculite purchased from shipping or botanical supply houses and mixed with just enough water (usually 1 for 1 by weight) to make the vermiculite clump together when squeezed. Airflow is critical in the incubation process since oxygen is needed for the eggs as the embryos develop. Generally opening the incubator and exposing the eggs to fresh air at least once a week during the incubation process is generally sufficient depending on the volume of air in your container/incubator. You may have to do this more frequently especially later in the inbubation process when more heat is created by the eggs and they demand more oxygen. Protection is critical since the eggs are relatively fragile though a few keepers have dropped the eggs when removing them from the mother with no harm to the eggs. Even I have to admit to doing this once and even though I was mortified with my slip, the egg hatched successfully and the animal developed normally. Obviously Humpty Dumpty wasn’t from a python! Some keepers try to pip the eggs or slit the egg shell to peek at the offspring. I don’t recommend this unless you have been shown how. However, it is very exciting to see a peek at the morph or species you are hatching. Click here to see what it looks like under "the hood" of the egg when a egg is successfully pipped. |
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| 05/15/08 07:50am |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1736025 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/15/08 09:20am |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1736093 Need to know about my blood.
Are you doing the perlite under the grating in a tub? That should work. |
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| 05/15/08 10:21am |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1736126 Need to know about my blood.
Yet I’m putting the perlite under the grating and the eggs on top? and going to use a UTH in a cooler, Is the drain hole going to be enough ventilation or should a add one more hole? But the eggs look good for now, in the huvabator. I’m hoping they all make it, well all the ones that don’t look bad there are 4 bad looking eggs (slugs), one of witch is stuck to a good egg is this going to be ok? |
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| 05/15/08 11:59am |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1736194 Need to know about my blood.
Quote: Yet I’m putting the perlite under the grating and the eggs on top? and going to use a UTH in a cooler, Is the drain hole going to be enough ventilation or should a add one more hole? This is what I would do (toss the slugs if they aren’t stuck to any good eggs). Get a small sterilite tub, depending on how many eggs you have, I’ll just say a 12 qt for now. Although, if your cooler is small enough, you don’t really need the tub. But if it’s large, I would get it. Well, I’ll make a list: 12 qt sterilite tub Saran Wrap Press and Seal Perlite Egg crating Thermometer Cooler UTH Thermostat Mix the perlite, so when you squeeze a handful in your fist, no water drips out, but is wet enough to stick together. Put 2 inches of that in the tub. Put your egg crate over the perlite, Put eggs on egg crate. Use the press and seal, and cover the tub. Seal it up. You’ll most likely be checking on them once a week or wiping condensation off for enough fresh air to get in there and prevent mold growth. Attach your UTH to the top lid of your cooler, Put the tub into the cooler. Put the thermostat AND thermometer probe in the eggs tub. Set the thermostat for 88 degrees. Monitor that with the thermometer probe as well. (thermostats are usually really reliable in this area) Close everything up and wait! Quote: well all the ones that don’t look bad there are 4 bad looking eggs (slugs), one of witch is stuck to a good egg is this going to be ok?
Leave the one slug that’s attached to the good egg. As it dies and molds, you’ll be better able to decide if it can easily come off or not. Usually though, its not a good idea because you can tear the egg. Once you have everything set, monitor it, don’t let the condensation drip on the eggs, don’t let them cave in. If they do, go ahead and squirt some water into the outer edge of the vermiculite. Sounds like that should do it for now. :) |
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| 05/15/08 12:49pm |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1736229 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/15/08 12:52pm |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1736229 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/15/08 12:55pm |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1736234 Need to know about my blood.
Here’s a link for the helix Link |
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| 05/15/08 01:16pm |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1736249 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/15/08 01:23pm |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1736253 Need to know about my blood.
Quote: Wow I can’t get that on such short notice. I have something for my blood’s UTH, all it has is a Dial and settings for high to low, and seems to work good for that, keeps the temps good, Would it be ok to use one of thous? Allso how would the saran wrap work if I don’t use a tub?
I don’t trust those dial ones a bit. I would order a Ranco or Helix as soon as possible. I think Ranco’s are like $80 or something. It’s worth it to buy if you can. Like I said, check out the kingsnake classifieds, or other forum’s classifieds. There always seem to be a few for sale, used but still working. Big apple herp, LLLreptile... Reptile basics. Check those out for prices. For now, you really have no choice but to use the thermostat you have. You may find that it keeps the temps perfect. In which case, your blessed. If you don’t use a tub, I think the press and seal around the edges of the cooler will work fine. That stuff is awesome, it creates a seal when pressed to itself, so you can use a couple of long strips side by side to make it large enough for your cooler. |
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| 05/15/08 01:35pm |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1736259 Need to know about my blood.
Link -Johnson |
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| 05/15/08 01:45pm |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1736259 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/15/08 01:45pm |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1736266 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/15/08 02:00pm |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1736273 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/15/08 02:45pm |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1736300 Need to know about my blood.
NOT MINE JUST A PIC I’M USING SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT IS. |
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| 05/15/08 07:10pm |
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Littleindiangirl View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1736599 Need to know about my blood.
As to the air flow, I would open once a week to check for mold, dimpling, let fresh air in. |
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| 05/15/08 07:24pm |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Littleindiangirl In reference to Message Id: 1736612 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/15/08 07:43pm |
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Crisco View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1736636 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/15/08 07:51pm |
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Rebelyell83 View Profile |
Message To: Crisco In reference to Message Id: 1736653 Need to know about my blood.
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| 05/15/08 08:54pm |
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