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 #1762211


Defiler13
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 Aging and Growth

ive had my female and male blood for a while now and theyre still young but im curius to how fast they do/should grow. i know they naturaly have slower growth than most snakes but what ages should be around what sized and weights etc. i know its kinda hard to help withought how oldthey are and pics etc btu any help would be apreciated,
thanks



06/15/08  10:02pm

 #1762846


Littleindiangirl
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   Message To: Defiler13   In reference to Message Id: 1762211


 Aging and Growth

Here’s an idea. My Sumatran short tail female is a late 06. I believe she was born in Oct. She has just passed the 1800 gram mark. I know Sumatrans are a smaller species than Brongersmai, but she has been fed very moderately, and I do not stuff her like a sausage every week. (Meaning, she gets a small rat not over 100 grams)

I do believe Brongersmai grow a little faster, but a lot is dependent on your feeding schedule and the snake itself. I am of the mind that bloods should be fed in moderation. Your snake will grow slower, but it will also have less fat reserves on the body compared to some monsters you see on the internet.



06/16/08  03:53pm

 #1762952


Defiler13
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   Message To: Littleindiangirl   In reference to Message Id: 1762846


 Aging and Growth

i see, im not trying to overfeed or powerfeed but i feed both of my bloods 1 medium rat a weak. the yare very picky and finicy eaters. bloods onyl shed what was it every 1 or 2 months right? so for aging how much growth should i see in a set period of time etc
06/16/08  05:21pm

 #1763134


Littleindiangirl
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   Message To: Defiler13   In reference to Message Id: 1762952


 Aging and Growth

First off, you saying that a blood is a picky eater is a red flag for me. What are you housing them in, and what are the temps?

Oh, how old are they and how big? I didn’t see that mentioned anywhere.

I still can’t answer your question any differently than I already have. But perhaps we can get to the bottom of why your blood is a picky eater. ;)
06/16/08  07:56pm

 #1763182


Defiler13
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   Message To: Littleindiangirl   In reference to Message Id: 1763134


 Aging and Growth

ever since i got the 2 of em theyve been picky eaters. never agrressive eaters and the ywill NOT eat if your watching them. theyre each i na 5ft long 3ft wide 17 inch tall boamaster cage with a radiant heatpabnel at 80 at night and 95 during the day fed medium rats once a weak. i dont know there exact age but theyre still young. male is ehh about 2 and a half feet and female is abotu a foot and a half i think. i mist the cage every day - every other day i have 3 hides i nthe cage and a huge foot and a half long and half a foot wide 12 inch deep water bowl in there i try to keep the humidity up at around 80 but is usualy about 75. ive had them for about 6 months, ya i know some pics would be really good. the said even when the yhatched the pair wernt agressive feaders and were picky.
06/16/08  08:25pm

 #1763253


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   Message To: Defiler13   In reference to Message Id: 1763182


 Aging and Growth

dude,,your temps are to high,drop it from 95 down to like 86 for day,and how big are the bloods?,,tank may be way to big as well
06/16/08  09:06pm

 #1763354


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 Aging and Growth

i already said male blood is about 2 and a half feet and female is about hmm 2 feet or so. cant really lower temps im using a helix control system with bearded dragons, and a rtb usingthe same system so temps have to me a little higher there cages are very shady misted and full of hides. considering they used to both be in 20 gallon longs id say there new cages are fine.......
06/16/08  10:07pm

 #1763433


Littleindiangirl
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   Message To: Defiler13   In reference to Message Id: 1763354


 Aging and Growth

Thats exactly why they are picky about being fed. Lower your temps! 95 is WAY WAY WAY too hot for bloods. They prefer to be in the low to mid 80’s at best.

Get a dimmer, get a different thermostat, get whatever you need to get those dang temps down. I’m surprised they haven’t regurged at those temps. Bloods should never be exposed to temps above 90 after feeding!

Wow, I’m just shocked i guess. There are no care sheets that say to ever have the temps above 90, so I don’t know where you think it was a good idea. You really need to get those temps down to 86-88. You will see an increase in appetite, but seriously, get your temps down!
06/16/08  11:12pm

 #1763447


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   Message To: Littleindiangirl   In reference to Message Id: 1763433


 Aging and Growth

Now to your humidity, 80 is again, way to high! They are prone to getting respiratory infections at that level of humidity.

Where did you learn these numbers from? I’m very concerned that you really don’t have the slightest clue in blood care.

The cage may be overwhelming at that size, but offering ample cover and hides should help. Bloods are very shy and secretive like ball pythons.

Get your humidity down to the 60-65% range. Only around 70% for misting. Any higher and you risk RI’s. Bloods are notoriously harder to treat for RI’s.

http://vpi.com/publications/blood_pythons_information_and_care

Straight from VPI’s care sheet.

Quote:

-Temperatures: As a general starting point, blood pythons seem to do best if kept in the low-to-mid 80s degrees F. We keep most of our blood pythons at 80-82 degrees F in the day and 78-80 degrees F at night. Most of the time our blood pythons do not have a basking spot available to them. When we do provide a heated basking spot, it is 86-88 degrees F.

If recently fed, blood pythons should not be subjected to temperatures more than 90 degrees F or below 78 degrees F. When empty of food, blood pythons are tolerant of a wider range of temperatures. It does appear that this species is less tolerant of cool temperatures than most pythons; they do fine in the 70s, but we rarely expose them to temperatures below 75 degrees F.



Quote:

In conditions of humidity below 50%-60%, this taxon will have difficulty shedding and some of the large scales on the upper surface of the snake, including the spectacles covering the eyes, may be dimpled in the center. However, in conditions of high humidity and poor ventilation we have observed a significantly higher incidence of respiratory illnesses. In very high humidity and damp conditions, the scales will prune or wrinkle; this sometimes is interpreted as the dimpling caused by low humidity.



Please redo your entire husbandry and read over the care sheet link I provided. I’m not trying to antagonize you, but I am still very concerned about the current situation with your bloods husbandry. Let me know if there is any way I can help you further.


~Connie
06/16/08  11:20pm

 #1763469


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 Aging and Growth

Quote:

Get your humidity down to the 60-65% range. Only around 70% for misting. Any higher and you risk RI’s. Bloods are notoriously harder to treat for RI’s.



Sorry I have a typo, 60-65% humidity, and 70% humidity for SHEDDING.

~Connie
06/16/08  11:31pm

 #1763866


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   Message To: Littleindiangirl   In reference to Message Id: 1763469


 Aging and Growth

my humidity is to high for them my apologies but as i stated earlier theyre being kept in boamaseter cages witch are all stacked with 3 other cages. those 3 other cages contain bearded dragons and a rtb, as you know beardies need high temps, i can compromise and lowe em to like 85 at day and 75 at night. ive known the tempts are to high btu ive been trying to even them otu and compromise so i geuss ill use about 85. humidity, honest mistake. and yes ive read the caresheet before and many many others. and the cage size? well theyre just gonna have to deal wit hthat one. those 5 cages are stacked and i spent 2K on em all just to get them int oa bigger and more roomie cage. but BACK to the POINT they have always been picky eaters and finicky eaters, ALWAYS. no need to start flaming me, you know the only real way to learn is through trial and error and i get it my temps were an error.
06/17/08  01:11pm

 #1763927


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   Message To: Defiler13   In reference to Message Id: 1763866


 Aging and Growth

dont lower all your temps bro,just go to walmart,get a 10 dollar slide dimmer,pug it into your outlet on the helix,and get a 6 prong strip,and plug it intot he dimmer,,them the controls for the blood cages into the strip,this way you can cut thier temps without cutting the other temps
06/17/08  02:01pm

 #1764012


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   Message To: Rebelyell83   In reference to Message Id: 1763927


 Aging and Growth

As I said, I’m not flaming you, I’m trying to help you. My concern gets the best of me at times.

I second the buying of a sliding lamp dimmer, they only cost about 8$. Don’t sacrifice one animals husbandry for another’s.



06/17/08  03:24pm


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