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 #1671602


Lets_Get_It
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 Jungle carpet python

are they considered beginner snakes or more of a snake suited more for an intermediate herper



03/22/08  05:59pm

 #1671963


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  Message To: Lets_Get_It   In reference to Message Id: 1671602


 Jungle carpet python

They are nippy as baby’s, but will grow out of it as they get older. They can be up to 7-8’ long, but the norm is about 6 feet to 6 1/2’ feet long. They are a slimmer built snake so don’t let the length scare you. The minimum caging for an adult would be 4’2’2’(LxWxH). Provide temps of about 80 degrees cold side and 90 degrees hot side with a surface temp of about 95 degrees. These are semi arboreal snakes so provide branches for it to perch on.

Theres probably a few things I left out so ask any other Q’s if you need to.



03/22/08  11:11pm

 #1671995


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  Message To: Lets_Get_It   In reference to Message Id: 1671602


 Jungle carpet python

they are not difficult. have you had other snakes before? you will probably be able to handle it, just look up info about them and if you have a local reptile shop go ask questions there too.



03/22/08  11:40pm

 #1680676


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  Message To: Ambiguous666   In reference to Message Id: 1671995


 Jungle carpet python

ive read on many care sheets that a 40 gallon breeder tank has sufficent space for an adult jcp is that ok i know that bigger is better but is the 40 good enough



03/29/08  02:58pm

 #1684003


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  Message To: Lets_Get_It   In reference to Message Id: 1680676


 Jungle carpet python

bump



03/31/08  05:58pm

 #1684116


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  Message To: Lets_Get_It   In reference to Message Id: 1680676


 Jungle carpet python

I go on half the snakes length if the snake is 8ft a 4 ft cage would be good. and then if its like 6ft I guess a 3ft cage would be good I dont like fish tanks soo I wouldent suggest it... If you like them and you have no problem with them go for it...!



03/31/08  06:55pm

 #1685027


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  Message To: Carpondro17   In reference to Message Id: 1684116


 Jungle carpet python

the minimum rule is 1 square foot for every square foot of coil.



04/01/08  02:03pm

 #1685500


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  Message To: Chezequerz   In reference to Message Id: 1685027


 Jungle carpet python

could u guys explain these in terms of tank size i dont have a snake so i wouldnt know how to compare sizes one suare foot of coil???



04/01/08  07:55pm

 #1685910


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  Message To: Lets_Get_It   In reference to Message Id: 1685500


 Jungle carpet python

Ok lets say the snake is 6ft right I would house it in a 3ft cage but if it gets 7ft and keeps growing I would buy a 4ft cage now lets say its a retic that get to be 16ft I would give it a 8ft cage. Now a 18ft retic can fit in a 8ft cage but when it gets 20+ft you might want to build your own cage. So jungles average 4-6ft so I guess a 3ft cage would be suitable but some jungles get bigger then that so to be safe you could give it a 4ft cage and be on the safe side. But the size I mentioned are adult cages... When their juviniles you have to upgrade a couple of times....



04/01/08  11:07pm

 #1685994


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  Message To: Carpondro17   In reference to Message Id: 1685910


 Jungle carpet python

For longterm health, they should be in something two thirds their length, not half. If anything repiratory ever starts to happen (which you can’t completely prevent; viruses exist, and they’re in the air, and they’re going to get inhaled sometimes,) if the snake is unable to straighten its lung out enough, its ability to fight the infection off is seriously impaired. if it can.. well, you know all those warnings you hear about how low temperatures are a sure recipe for lung problems? My carpie is an ’87, who free-roams in an apartment in Cleveland (this is what happens when you take too long getting a bigger cage, let the snake "camp out" more and more often, and they wind up spoiled.) Being able to put her body into any position she wants, whenever she wants, apparently has advantages.

However, if I did actually believe that one half was a good minimum, I wouldn’t wait until the snake was seven feet long to give it a cage over three feet long. When it hits six, you upgrade, if that’s what you’re really going by.

For the record, I used to keep my coastal in a 48X18X21 until she was about jungle carpet sized (less than seven feet.) At that point, she no longer seemed as comfortable in there as I was used to seeing her, so I moved her out of it. I didn’t even know about the lung thing yet back then. Based on their activity patterns when they have a choice, 48X24X24 for a six footer sounds more realistic to me, but don’t count on your JCP staying only six feet long. (If you get a male, though, your odds are better.)

If your goal is to get a carpet but avoid a large cage, I would suggest a male Irian Jaya. Even he may well outgrow the 40, but he’ll be less likely to than a jungle, and a large male Irian won’t need as big a cage as a large male jungle. Since it sounds like you’ve already got the tank you want to make use of, you might also consider a Children’s or spotted python. Not as impressive a handful as a carpie, but in many ways quite similar, and you certainly won’t ever have to upgrade.



04/02/08  12:11am

 #1686265


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  Message To: JackAsp   In reference to Message Id: 1685994


 Jungle carpet python

I two don’t believe in giving snakes an enclosure half there length. My female JCP is going into a 6’x3’x4’ enclosure. And I’m not sure if I should go bigger or not. I like to give my animals big cages. I’m working on a new cage for my garter snakes and its going to be 5’x2’x2’. Most people keep them in a 30 gallon fish tank, but I find that terribly cramped for such an active snake.

I don’t really know where I’m going with this, but if you want a snake that will fit in a 40 gallon tank then a JCP isn’t for you



04/02/08  11:00am

 #1686395


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  Message To: Carpondro17   In reference to Message Id: 1684116


 Jungle carpet python

OK they have good points their! Now alot of breeders and people I know keep their big snakes in cages half the lenght of them like I said and the snakes are fine..... I think juviniles/hatchlings should be keeped in small enclosures because sometimes they will have eating problems (some dont most do) when I got my first snake (witch was a cal king) he was around 6-8 inches maybe 10 tops and and I had him in a 30gal fish tank it was clean and all I added mulch and you know the basics the first meal he dident like it when people watched him so I left the pinky inside and I came back and it wasent there.... anyway it took him 2 months to get the food thing right after that I put him in a 10 gal when he was around 12 inches maybe and he ate fine and hasent missed a meal scince.... But as for adults I guess the more the better.....Again if you want to keep it in a 40gal its whole life jungles might not be for you.... Look into other snakes like ball pythons,kingsnakes (adult kings would love all that space!)
childrens pythons,spoted pythons,sand boas,rosy boas..... You dont need a big snake you could be happyer with a snake that size in a enclosure that size.... Also look into lizards like you could get a bunch of geckos like 5+leopard geckos they would dig that! Also a beardie,maybe some cresties....Idk just think about it.....



04/02/08  01:08pm

 #1687100


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  Message To: Carpondro17   In reference to Message Id: 1686395


 Jungle carpet python

yea i am really thinking about it ive heard that ball pythons are really boring after a while so i didnt really want one of them and they are picky eaters i dont want any lizards because mosst of them require uvb lights and i dont really want that so thats y i was going for a snake so i see now that jcp are t big for a 40 breeder that suks cuz they look so awesome so my other options are childrens pythons spotted pythons sand boas and rosy boas and kingsnakes which of these would be the most active or would all of them have the same personalities i thank u guys ahead of time for all the help you guys have given me



04/02/08  09:57pm

 #1687755


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  Message To: Lets_Get_It   In reference to Message Id: 1687100


 Jungle carpet python

No problem :)
Yea all of the ones I listed are cool! Good luck on finding what you want!



04/03/08  01:52pm

 #1688553


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  Message To: Carpondro17   In reference to Message Id: 1687755


 Jungle carpet python

Children’s and spotteds are nocturnal but once they’re up, they’re pretty active. Sand boas are pretty much always hidden. Kingsnakes are usually pretty bold about coming out to see what’s happening, although they do burrow, and I THINK, although I’m not sure on this one, that rosy boas are very nice snakes for handling but spend about as much time hiding as ball pythons. I’m sure somebody who knows them better than I do will chime in.



04/03/08  11:25pm

 #1708037


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  Message To: JackAsp   In reference to Message Id: 1688553


 Jungle carpet python

If a python has black eye’s it’s nocturnal. Others i’m not to sure about.



04/18/08  03:22pm


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