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 What would be a good size enclosure for an adult jungle carpet python?

would a tall, cage or a long , or a wide??? cage be best i was thinking for an adult a 4lx3tx2d. or should it be taller than long? and no i dont own one yet but plan on buying one soon i was thinking of a jaguar but they run 850.00 so all probally start with a common jungle for 129.99, and then save and ive been making my own custom cages and am getting pretty good at it! ( just thought id mention LOL)
05/11/08  07:46pm

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 What would be a good size enclosure for an adult jungle carpet python?

I think that cage dementions you explained are fine I would just add a big pice of pvp pipeing so he can climb on I guess or how ever you set him up....
05/11/08  08:32pm

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   Message To: B.T.   In reference to Message Id: 1732309


 What would be a good size enclosure for an adult jungle carpet python?

man i hate jungles lol i have one in my snake room the little girl is aggresive, antisocial and has to be force fed not trying to put ya off or anything lol but as for caging she is in a 3 foot long 2 foot wide 3 foot high tank when she grows a bit more



05/12/08  04:05am

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   Message To: Chezequers   In reference to Message Id: 1732664


 What would be a good size enclosure for an adult jungle carpet python?

thanks you guys..... all have to work extra hard on taming! i plan on starting mine in a 40 gallon aquarium and using potting soil with a layer of coconut husk and live plants with branches until it gets around 2and a half feet then making a custom cage.... i prefear them over tanks any day because of the heat lamps being used and the fact its hard to regulate hum. and temp. plus i prefear heat panels! thanks again
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05/12/08  09:46pm

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 What would be a good size enclosure for an adult jungle carpet python?

I dont think potting soild would be a all that good substrate... I prefer cypress mulch if you want some extra humidity, and paper towls they are cheap and I like them more
05/12/08  09:50pm

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   Message To: Carpondro17   In reference to Message Id: 1733537


 What would be a good size enclosure for an adult jungle carpet python?

why not potting soil i was wanting live plants for the cage and i got the setup from someone else and they said it would be fine what about coconut husk like i use with my boas and live plants in pots like i use with my boas would that work?????
05/13/08  10:54pm

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 What would be a good size enclosure for an adult jungle carpet python?

I think for a nonburrowing species like that you’re really better off with paper. Soilish substrates just make cleanliness more trouble than it seems worth, which leads to problems down the road. A wild carpie relocates a lot, so the odds of them hanging around on the same section of ground they or a prey item has gone to the bathroom on since the last rainstorm are pretty slim.

If it’s a species that actually likes poking around through the substrate, then the compicated health issue is worth it; I’m not one of those "Paper for EVERYTHING!" guys, but a carpet python just isn’t the same, behaviorwise, as a pine, milk, king, or hognose. Plus, it will crush your plants to death. I say get some big sturdy plastic ones that you can hose off whenever you have to, and if newspaper isn’t natural-looking enouygh for you go with brown paper grocery bags. They’re a natural enough looking color that nobody who’s ogling your big yellow and black snake is going to complain that the cage doesn’t look good enough.

Also, I’ve had a bad experience with carpet... in both senses of the word! My carpet python once was eating on carpting and got her teeth snagged in it. I had to reach into her mouth and work the teeth out of it one by one and just hope like hell that she would appreciate it nough not to try to eat my hand afterwards. She did, she didn’t, and she proceeded to finish her meal quite happily afterwards, but that experience tells me that caprpet pythons are a bad candidate for feeding on substrtate. Due to their adult size, they’re also often a hassle to feed outsode the cage though, so... paper.

All that is the kind of thing you’ll hear about snakes and substrates in general, of course, but I’m ust chiming in to mention that I can see it applying to carpet pythons specifically.

In response to the other part of your question, the cage dimensions will probably work fine as long as the cage is set up well. I hate those people who stick one branch in there and brag about how much vertical space the cage has. You know, in case the snake decides to strap on a jet pack and fly around in all that empty space. If you pay attention to what the snake likes to do and encourage those behaviors while he’s growing, then by the time the cage is simply "big enough" rather than "humungous" you’ll know how to set it up though. It’s possible that you might get a very large specimen, in which case it’ll end up wanting something a foot longer, but it seems like a reasonable cage to start out with.

I lean towards the two thirds rule rather than the one half rule, which only makes it mathematically sound until the snake exceeds six feet (likely for a female, and quite possible for a male) but, to be perfectly honest, my own carpet didn’t outgrow a 48X18X21 until she hit seven feet, which would be a fairly large jungle. With snakes that like to climb, sometimes you can cheat a litle on cage length rules by placing a nice diagonal branch from like the bottom northeast corner to the top southwest or something like that in order to make the most of the available stretch space. Stretching out in a straight line isn’t really a big thing that carpies do much (although if they have room they seem to like making the letter L a lot. L and O.), but apparently being able to straighten their lung out if they ever feel any discomfort starting in it helps them fend off respiratory issues.
05/14/08  12:26am

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   Message To: JackAsp   In reference to Message Id: 1734833


 What would be a good size enclosure for an adult jungle carpet python?

wow, thanks, seems like u no what ur talkking about.
b.t
05/15/08  11:04pm

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   Message To: B.T.   In reference to Message Id: 1736846


 What would be a good size enclosure for an adult jungle carpet python?

I keep all my snakes on dirt substrates. I can understand and respect your opinion, but I think paper substrates just look boring. When I see a cage that looks ugly, I’m less inclined to get excited about looking at it. This also makes me less inclined to observe my captives. The more I monitor them, the more I can insure their well being. So, I have live plants rock walls, the whole bit. It just makes a more fun experience for me, the keeper. I’m not a breeder (of snakes) and so I could care less about efficiency, although I can understand that is a concern for people.

Another consideration is consistent humidity levels. I find that a large quantity of moist dirt or cypress mulch slowly let off moisture and keep the levels constant. Without anything to buffer the humidity, the levels tend to fluctuate up and down. You can obviously mist the case, but the levels with peak after the mist and gradually drop over time.

That’s just my opinion.

-Chris
05/15/08  11:26pm

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   Message To: Shiftylarry   In reference to Message Id: 1736858


 What would be a good size enclosure for an adult jungle carpet python?

i like your opinion way better!!! thanks! i tried just the papper substrtate and never could keep humidity so i use all sort of differnt substratse to!
b.t.



05/19/08  09:34pm


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