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#1756140
Repta dude
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Just some advice 
hi all. I will be purchasing a childrens python at this months show. I fell in love with them last time i was there. Anyway i can’t find many care sheets on the net and the ones that i do all say something different. So i was wondering if an experienced keeper of this snake species or of similar species (spotted python) could give me a little info on how to set up the enclosure. I have a all sizes of cages. I think ill start out with a 20 and end with a 30 or 40, but the substrate i was planning on using a 50/50 mixture between sand and soil or i could do a mixture of something and cypress ? I really have no idea everything says something different. Apart from that everything else is good i just need to know the substrate. And maybe on how to tell a childrens and a spotted apart i know they just come from different parts of australia. I just don’t want to shell out 120+ on a "childrens" when really its a spotted and i could have gotten it for half the price.
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06/09/08 05:29pm
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#1756215
Trentiusmaximus
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1756140
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Well as far as bedding, soil is okay, but sand should be totally avoided. Any kind of mulch or shavings would do. Coconut, cypress, anything that holds humidity. Even moss works very well. I dont know exactly how you can tell the two apart, but you should research the scientific name of the childrens python, then ask the dealer the scientific name of the snake you want to buy. If the names dont match up or he seems hesitant, then hes obviously lying. Just dont confront him by telling you want a childdrens python lol.
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06/09/08 06:44pm
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#1760719
Repta dude
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Message To: Trentiusmaximus In reference to Message Id: 1756215
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haha well thanks for the telling apart advice, but does anyone else know a more certain way. I’ve been noticing in pictures that childrens seem to be a lighter color must of the time. But i was just wondering if there was another way.
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06/14/08 01:28pm
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#1760742
Farout
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1760719
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Have you checked out Antaresia.com?
There are mixed opinions regarding using sand as a substrate. I personally feel that if sand is a part of a reptile’s native habitat, its okay to use it for substrate. For example, Bob Applegate, who is a long time and well known breeder of kingsnakes, keeps some of his snakes on pine shavings and others on sand. Those are two substrates most folks will tell you to never use. He has done this for over 20 years.
I use a mixture of sand, coconut fiber and fir bark for my kingsnake and have never had any problems. Just be sure the sand is not a sharp edged, find sand. Non colored reptile sand or play sand should be fine especially when mixed with soil. Also be sure that the soil you use doesn’t have any fertilizers or other harmful chemicals.
Hope this helps.
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06/14/08 01:59pm
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#1760874
Repta dude
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Message To: Farout In reference to Message Id: 1760742
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lol well i just got done putting some cypress in the tank. I could take that out and switch it ? or do you think this will work ? I put it in there because its non-toxic and holds humidity rather well. I am using a screen top so i felt if i used sand or something else of that nature that it might become to dry.
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06/14/08 04:28pm
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#1760971
Farout
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1760874
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Sure, the cypress will work just fine. I really don’t need to worry about humidity too much with childrens pythons since they come from a dry native habitat. Between 50 to 60 percent is just fine. If you need to increase the humidity to get it to that level, you can cover part or most of the screen top with a cut out piece of cardboard or something like that.
You should post a pic some time. I’d really like to see it!
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06/14/08 06:12pm
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#1761648
Repta dude
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Message To: Farout In reference to Message Id: 1760971
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well i have to wait till the show to pic it up which will be june 21. but when i do ill be sure to put some pics up.
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06/15/08 12:42pm
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#1766807
Repta dude
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1761648
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just thought i would show you guys the final product. sorry the dates off by a couple 6 years or so on the pics.
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06/19/08 08:31pm
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#1767013
Farout
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1766807
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Is that the same setup you will be using for your Children’s python? That is one nice cage setup! Your snake should be more than thrilled with that. ;)
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06/19/08 10:51pm
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#1767297
Repta dude
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Message To: Farout In reference to Message Id: 1767013
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haha yea that IS the setup im using for my childrens. I just hope i can get a good deal tomorrow. you know reptile shows. you never know what your gonna see or if it will even have them. I’ve seen them there before, anyway my backup for if i don’t see one is australianaddiction.com. They seem to have some good lookin snakes for good prices.
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06/20/08 09:31am
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#1767607
Farout
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1767297
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I wish you well at the show. I know Australian Addiction feeds live to all their snakes so you may have to work a little at converting to frozen. If you are ever in the market for a carpet python, check out Reptilicus Reptiles. I got one of mine from them and their customer service is top notch!
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06/20/08 02:26pm
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#1769464
Repta dude
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Message To: Farout In reference to Message Id: 1767607
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alright i got one. its a girl. shes soooo tiny. the guy i got her from said shes only a week old and hasn’t eaten yet. i know its a risk but it was either a new born baby or a full grown adult. i probably should have taken the adult but then there would have been no fun in growing it. you know ? anyway i have another question about this first feeding thing. I obviously want to feed her f/t for her life. But should i feed her 1 live pinkie just to start her off... get her into the taste of blood. haha anyway I’m kinda just lettin her get use to her cage for now. I’m not going to handle her or try to get her to eat for about 4 days. then i’ll try to break her feeding virginity but i just need some advice on how to do it. Also should i put her into a little tupperware container when i feed her ? oh and i’ll most definitely have pictures on here later. i just haven’t had the time to take any yet.
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06/22/08 11:36am
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#1769611
Farout
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1769464
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Well, you definitely went with a major risk buying a snake that’s never eaten. The dealer sounds like he doesn’t care a flip about the quality of his animals.
I’m sure you would get alot of opinions about this, but I always feed inside the cage. Your baby snake will feel more secure there and the probability of it eating is much higher. Personally, I would just leave the pinkie at the opening of the hide box at night where your snake is and leave it in peace. If it sees you moving around and hovering over it, you may risk it not eating. If it doesn’t eat, try again in a few days.
Hope this helps.
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06/22/08 02:18pm
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#1769661
Repta dude
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Message To: Farout In reference to Message Id: 1769611
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no no the breeder is the main guy that puts on the ohio reptile show. he gave me a card and said if i have any trouble or questions to call. but i thought i’d try here first. so im sure he cares. but yes i know it was a risk and he knocked down the price sense it had never eaten before, but all the ones he had hadn’t eaten and he had quite a few, they have to eat sometime though right ? lol
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06/22/08 03:08pm
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#1769728
Farout
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1769661
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Well, I really shouldn’t make that kind of a judgment on him. I just don’t think its in the best interest of the snake or the keeper.
Anyway, fill us in on how it goes with your snake.
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06/22/08 04:04pm
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#1770265
Repta dude
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Message To: Farout In reference to Message Id: 1769728
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No its fine. I can see how anyone would of thought that if i hadn’t said the details. but anyway i came home tonight and was surprised to find a whole shedded skin. I had no idea how much more beautiful she could be. haha i know this is gay but the pics below were takin earlier today before she shed. so just imagine her brighter in color and more contrast and a little bit of an orange tint to the head.
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06/23/08 12:28am
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#1770409
Farout
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1770265
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She looks great!
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06/23/08 08:24am
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#1771214
Repta dude
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Message To: Farout In reference to Message Id: 1770409
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aaaahhh i know ! shes so cute but it makes me so mad because it so hard to not hold her but i know i can’t for like another week. its so hard i just have to watch her from the other side of the glass. the good thing is is that shes sooo active. I don’t think ive ever seen a more acvtive snake. shes constatly exploring her cage and climbing around. so if i can’t hold her atleast i can watch her.
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06/23/08 08:39pm
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#1775876
Ned Fisch
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1756140
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Children’s python’s fade as they grow up, Spotteds don’t. Cypress is toxic to snakes, soil and sand, not good either, it can cause infections in their heat sensing pits. You can use, fake grass, newspaper, Aspen snake bedding.
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06/27/08 07:08pm
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#1776715
Repta dude
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Message To: Ned Fisch In reference to Message Id: 1775876
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well poopie head looks like ill be getting some aspen today.
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06/28/08 04:31pm
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#1776730
Repta dude
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1776715
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haha i definitely used another word other then "poopie head"... any way i have never once ever heard cypress is toxic to snakes. I know pine and cedar is. so please find me a link to a page on the net that will tell me cypress is toxic to snakes... until then i will continue to use it.
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06/28/08 04:46pm
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#1776901
Ned Fisch
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1776730
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Poopie head? Very mature.....
I was watching a video on you tube, may not be true, but I won’t use it anyway, harder to clean.
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06/28/08 07:57pm
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#1777500
Repta dude
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Message To: Ned Fisch In reference to Message Id: 1776901
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I just said it was not poopie head when i typed it in there. this sight changes cuss words. anyway what ever video you saw that on forget it because its not true.
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06/29/08 12:41pm
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#1777746
Ned Fisch
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1777500
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Whoa. Sorry about it, I never said it was dead set true. But i’ll tell you now, don’t use sand, mulch, soil or something that is dusty, bad things can happen.
On every packet of sand over here in AUS, it says on the back, "Do not use with pythons, unless your python(s) are Woma’s or Black headed python’s". And it says this in another spot, "Sand can causes infection in your python’s heat sensing pits if used for your python".
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06/29/08 05:35pm
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#1777886
Repta dude
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Message To: Ned Fisch In reference to Message Id: 1777746
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well thanks for the info but i never used sand or dirt. I’ve used cypress sense day one.
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06/29/08 07:27pm
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#1777933
Trentiusmaximus
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Message To: Ned Fisch In reference to Message Id: 1775876
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Quote: Cypress is toxic to snakes...
I have to disagree. Almost every breeder i know keeps their snakes on cypress mulch. I think it is cedar you were talking about lol?
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06/29/08 08:22pm
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#1777987
Ned Fisch
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Message To: Trentiusmaximus In reference to Message Id: 1777933
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Cedar, Cypress. One of the two.
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06/29/08 08:59pm
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#1778761
Repta dude
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Message To: Ned Fisch In reference to Message Id: 1777987
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Its cedar your thinking of cypress is safe
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06/30/08 04:15pm
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#1786608
Repta dude
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1778761
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id just like to say that about 10 minutes ago she took her first pink shes ever had in her life! i was more then thrilled. i think in about another hour or so im going to go see if she’ll take another... :) im happy
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07/08/08 01:03am
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#1787637
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Message To: Repta dude In reference to Message Id: 1786608
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Congrats.
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07/08/08 08:02pm
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