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thankyous very much in advance! :D edf |
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| 04/26/08 06:07pm |
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Reptilefreak23 View Profile |
Message To: Edf In reference to Message Id: 1717125 ID question
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| 04/26/08 07:33pm |
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Reptilefreak23 View Profile |
Message To: Reptilefreak23 In reference to Message Id: 1717203 ID question
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| 04/26/08 07:39pm |
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Edf View Profile |
Message To: Reptilefreak23 In reference to Message Id: 1717207 ID question
thanx for your input tho edf |
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| 04/26/08 07:58pm |
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Reptilefreak23 View Profile |
Message To: Edf In reference to Message Id: 1717227 ID question
Ill do some research to |
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| 04/28/08 09:01pm |
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Edf View Profile |
Message To: Reptilefreak23 In reference to Message Id: 1719586 ID question
Quote: neither of those have the blotches on the center of backs like yours
Yeah, a pure everglades rat snake will not have the back pattern, but they will be striped, hence why its an interglade- meaning, its an everglades mixed with another type of rat snake...b/c it does have the stripes that an everglades has, but also has that back pattern. I was chatting with someone who works with snakes in th elocality of Flordia when I read your responce. I did specifically ask if there was any chance this was a corn or mixed with a corn- he said he was positive that is was a rat snake, not a hybrid or a corn snake. Ratsnakes can have patterns just like corns, from what photo’s I looked at on the internet, so this snake can be the result of an everglade bred with another rat snake- which its genetics is unknown.... Now, I am aware that he could be wrong- so don’t take my post as in I think you are clueless...LOL ( afterall, I am the one asking what the snake is ) But the back pattern was a dead giveaway that it wasn’t a pure everglades. The main reason why i poste d this was to make sure I at least had a rat snake. I am not against hybrids, I just donot wish to work with them... Yes, I am going to have to do alot more research on this snake as well. If you do happen to find any more info, please share it with me! I do appreciate your intput and help. :D edf |
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| 04/29/08 06:10pm |
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Reptilefreak23 View Profile |
Message To: Edf In reference to Message Id: 1720415 ID question
So At the place you were at they were wrong about the breed. But still t my stripe corn looks JUST like that. And I have a book on The differences between Integrades, Yellow, and everglades. And I totally agree the everglades has that orange stripe pattern.. but they dont have those large lighter blotches/stripes on the middle of back pattern (between 2 orange stripes), they have the same orange color as the rest of body And also neither intergrades or everglades has that ’spear point’ or ’triangle’ on head. And these have been miscorrectly sold as yellows, itergrades, and corn snakes. (Intergrade is a dark morph of yellow) |
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| 05/01/08 10:03pm |
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RePtiLOVER View Profile |
Message To: Reptilefreak23 In reference to Message Id: 1722727 ID question
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| 05/02/08 10:53am |
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RePtiLOVER View Profile |
Message To: RePtiLOVER In reference to Message Id: 1723111 ID question
Here is the likely suspect.
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| 05/02/08 10:58am |
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Kojak View Profile |
Message To: Reptilefreak23 In reference to Message Id: 1722727
If you bought this animal as an everglades rat snake, I’m going to say you probably got the better end of the deal. Not knowing what you paid for it, I’d say you got an exceptional corn snake. It is obviously an amel based morph, motley sunglow comes to mind first. There are two things that strike me about this corn snake: 1. The pattern itself is obviously motley, but shows signs of true strip as well. I can’t say with any certainty that there is anything more going on than a very nice, unique motley. But there is certainly the possibility that your snake is carrying something unusual. To me that’s one of the real draws to corns. 2. The head pattern is quite washed. The only cultivar that I know for sure that demonstrates this characteristic on a more consistent frequency is the diffused or bloodred. The head patterns on these are fairly different than many other corn morphs, so again, it’s hard to say with any certainty. It looks to me as if there could possibly be some hypo running around in that beauty as well. Again....no real way of knowing without some breeding trials down the line. At a minimum, that snake is a real keeper! If you payed typical Glades rat prices for that corn, I still think you got a sweat deal. What sex is it? Also, any chance you could post some pics of the belly? Maybe a couple more head shots and a dorsal shot of the body? Great looking corn Edf, but I know that you are just thoroughly disappointed with this animal. Why not just go ahead and send it to me, and I’ll take it off your hands for you. You know me, always willing to help. Yeah, that’s what you should do; send it to me and I’ll take care of all that bothersome trial breeding for you! lol |
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| 05/02/08 03:30pm |
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ScyllaCharybdis View Profile |
Message To: Kojak In reference to Message Id: 1723275 ID question
It looks like (to me based on the pics) what is known as a "Cubed Corn". That would be Motley and Striped. And Yes...I too would like to see a belly shot of the mid-belly and the belly to tail tip. Very nice!!! |
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| 05/02/08 03:54pm |
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Edf View Profile |
Message To: ScyllaCharybdis In reference to Message Id: 1723305 ID question
Ultimatly, i am happy if its a corn or a rat- its just, well, I dont want to mix a ratsnake with a corn snake, hence why i want to be positive weather this is a corn or a rat- so I know which to work with. Reptilefreak23- I really hope you didn’t take me doubting you the wrong way- I truely appreciate all th ehelp you have provided me with. This was a petshop pick-up, so they very well could have mislabeled it. RePtiLOVER- thanx for your pics- it really helps newbs to colubrids, such as myself, understand better! Kojak- thanx for the more in depth post and such- this is why I noted you- I knew you’d be able to really help me out- but I think this snake is going to stay right here with me... Now, in a few years, you can have some of the babies if you want lol BUT Quote: It is obviously an amel based morph,
Oh- so maybe, if th egender gods are in my favor, I could breed this to my black corn snake...and I could go for double hets of... I think its blizzards? Yeah, b/c snows are type A Anerys X Amels.... Hey- maybe, just maybe, I am starting to grasp corn snake morphs! But chances are, both snakes are male, b/c that is the way my luck works! Chuck- thanx for your input as well. I will snap some belly shots when I clean its cage out this weekend and post them here. thanx a bunch for all your help! I am investing in corn snake books, so soon, I won’t be easily confused ( Let’s hope, right?LOL) Thanx once again, I turely appreciate it! :D edf |
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| 05/02/08 05:29pm |
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Wisema2297 View Profile |
Message To: Edf In reference to Message Id: 1723420 ID question
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| 05/03/08 07:56am |
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Wisema2297 View Profile |
Message To: Wisema2297 In reference to Message Id: 1723842 ID question
I bet yours has a belly like this one (same snake as above at younger age)
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| 05/03/08 08:00am |
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Candy_Corn View Profile |
Message To: Edf In reference to Message Id: 1723420 ID question
That’s a great corn, Janet. Very pretty...I want one :) |
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| 05/05/08 04:28pm |
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