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 #1200998


Senshokukiba
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 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

As the title states, I’d like some information on Water Dogs. I recently saw a photo to them and I’m interested in learning about them. Do people actually keep them as pets?



03/07/07  07:40pm

 #1201250


Keechoo
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   Message To: Senshokukiba   In reference to Message Id: 1200998


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

Yes, if you go to some other websites you’ll meet others who do so.
03/07/07  10:13pm

 #1202680


Dane_Zoo
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   Message To: Keechoo   In reference to Message Id: 1201250


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

a water dog is the term used for larval tiger salamnders, or neotonic tiger salamanders

once the "water dog" gets to a certain age it will go through a stage like frogs in wich it turns into a terrestrial salamander
03/08/07  10:47pm

 #1204468


Mampam
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   Message To: Dane_Zoo   In reference to Message Id: 1202680


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

Waterdog is REALLY the name of a subspecies of mudpuppy, which can be kept as a pet, i think, the term being used for baby tigers is really a mistake.
03/10/07  03:06pm

 #1205983


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   Message To: Mampam   In reference to Message Id: 1204468


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

well i have 2 mud puppies and i have them as pets ive had them for over 10 months and they are doing great ~~MudPuppyMan~~
03/11/07  10:17pm

 #1207061


Dane_Zoo
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   Message To: MudPuppyMan   In reference to Message Id: 1205983


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

well many people call them larval tigers waterdogs, i never really thought of it as a real name for them, but yes waterdogs can also refer to mudpuppies
03/12/07  08:56pm

 #1207063


Dane_Zoo
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   Message To: MudPuppyMan   In reference to Message Id: 1205983


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

well many people call larval tigers waterdogs, i never really thought of it as a real name for them, but yes waterdogs can also refer to mudpuppies
03/12/07  08:57pm

 #1209345


MudPuppyMan
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   Message To: Dane_Zoo   In reference to Message Id: 1207063


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

they arent a form of tiger salamander trust me they are small and their eyes are on top of their head and not to mch seperated but it has gills and is about 4" or 5"...
03/14/07  09:00pm

 #1210341


Dane_Zoo
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   Message To: MudPuppyMan   In reference to Message Id: 1209345


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

i never said ur muddpuppies were tigers, they are easily distinguisable, i was just shooting out info the the person who asked about waterdogs
03/15/07  06:06pm

 #1212836


Senshokukiba
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   Message To: Dane_Zoo   In reference to Message Id: 1210341


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

Water Dogs are Tiger Salamanders? - is confused-


You’re saying that this is the larvea form of a Tiger Salamander?




You’re telling me that it will turn into this?




Perhaps I should have called them Mudpuppies. That’s what I’m refering to. :]
03/18/07  01:34am

 #1212878


Kyoss
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   Message To: Senshokukiba   In reference to Message Id: 1212836


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

I have a little/big mudpuppy farm. If you need some help raising them or anything.. i could help you out. I will get some pics of there tank but i can’t get pics of them because of all of there rocks, and decor in there. But tomarrow ill get pics of the tank and give you tips on raising them if you need some...?



03/18/07  02:36am

 #1213868


Dane_Zoo
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   Message To: Kyoss   In reference to Message Id: 1212878


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

the first one is a muddpuppy

here is what im saying

waterdog is a nick name for both muddpuppies and laraval tiger salamanders

that dosnt mean a muddpuppy and a tiger salamnder larvae are the same thing
03/18/07  08:42pm

 #1213934


Mampam
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   Message To: Dane_Zoo   In reference to Message Id: 1213868


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

There are two subspecies of muddypuppy, and several subspecies of water dog.
03/18/07  09:34pm

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Salzy
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   Message To: Mampam   In reference to Message Id: 1213934


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

This isn’t what the thread was about originally but I believe that some more research has to be done on the debate over mudpuppies and waterdogs. I agree with parts of what everyone else said but not everhthing.

Waterdogs and Mudpuppies belong to the Proteidae family. There are 5 species of waterdogs and mudpuppies, which are the same type of organism, all in the genera Necturus, in the U.S. The term waterdog should not refer to any other salamanders besides these. These 5 are permanently aquatic organisms (the term paedomorphic refers to this) and do not metamorphose into another life stage. Salamanders and newts, however, do transform from the larval stage (aquatic with gills and fins) to a terrestrial life form which will eventually breed in the water, like most other amphibians.

These creatures can be kept as pets. I have personally had numerous tiger salamander larvae which I raised to adults, some spotted salamanders, and 2 mudpuppies at one time. Just be sure to have a good filter system. They can get fairly smelly if not cared for properly and you will be cleaning out lots of shed skins. I would suggest at least a 20 gallon tank for 2 mudpuppies or tiger salamanders.



03/18/07  11:11pm

 #1216036


Salzy
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   Message To: Senshokukiba   In reference to Message Id: 1200998


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

I forgot to mention that there are also wholly aquatic salamanders that are not mudpuppies or waterdogs. They are things like hellbenders, axolotl, and paedomorphic Ambystoma species.



03/20/07  07:56pm

 #1227728


Newtdude100
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   Message To: Senshokukiba   In reference to Message Id: 1200998


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

waerdog is a term for mudpuppy and they are entirly aquitic and are most often active at night
03/30/07  02:27pm

 #1228896


Kyoss
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   Message To: Newtdude100   In reference to Message Id: 1227728


 Can any one give me some information on Water Dogs?

I gave Senshokukiba a huge care hseet on mudpuppies. I also raise tadpoles if anyone needs info on them.
03/31/07  02:58pm


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