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 #765165


CaptainJack
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   Message To: Herp16   In reference to Message Id: 765139


 Spider in cricket box?

If i am not mistaken, most spiders are venemous and can bite. Toxicity is another thing. Just trap it and let it go, it’s probably a local species.



04/30/06  04:35pm

 #766033


Herp16
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   Message To: CaptainJack   In reference to Message Id: 765165


 Spider in cricket box?

Ok thanks
05/01/06  06:19am

 #766047


Metz
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   Message To: Herp16   In reference to Message Id: 766033


 Spider in cricket box?

*All* spiders are venomous. Like Cap said, toxidity, however, is a different story.



05/01/06  06:40am

 #766340


Monitorkid
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   Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 766047


 Spider in cricket box?

correction metz no, not ALL spiders are venomous. i know this for a fact, this became a huge debate on arachnoboards.com and some links were posted about not all spiders being venemous, i googled it. this is what i found:

Quote:

Spiders in the family Uloboridae do not have venom glands at all, but merely bite their prey to subdue them.



i believe there is another family, but so you know...not *all* spiders have vemon glands....
05/01/06  01:57pm

 #766360


Metz
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   Message To: Monitorkid   In reference to Message Id: 766340


 Spider in cricket box?

well dear, you just keep on googling and I’ll get some true spider "experts" in here to clairfy it for you, how about that?
*ALL* *true spiders* have venom and it does not suprise me that AB is debating it. Some of those people don’t know their heads from a hole in the ground most of the time.
05/01/06  02:21pm

 #766375


Monitorkid
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   Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 766360


 Spider in cricket box?

go get your *spider experts* or whatever you wish to all them. and 99% of the people on arachnoboards know more than you could ever wish to know...ever! so i guess all those links are false info? sounds like your a broken link with wrong info actually.... id like complete *proof* that every single spider has venom glands and the ability to produce it, and it has to be accurate info too. good luck on that, have fun.
05/01/06  02:30pm

 #766381


Metz
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   Message To: Monitorkid   In reference to Message Id: 766375


 Spider in cricket box?

Try google these:
True spider
Arachnid
there’s quite the difference



05/01/06  02:36pm

 #766396


Monitorkid
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   Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 766381


 Spider in cricket box?

ohhh, i see! so now your totally changin your statement huh? first it was:

Quote:

*All* spiders are venomous



then it was:

Quote:

*ALL* *true spiders* have venom



i see a difference, why dont you read your posts before you make false statements.
05/01/06  02:47pm

 #767712


Metz
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   Message To: Monitorkid   In reference to Message Id: 766340


 Spider in cricket box?

I shall try and be more specfic next time.

Quote:

Spiders in the family Uloboridae do not have venom glands at all, but merely bite their prey to subdue them.
i believe there is another family, but so you know...not *all* spiders have vemon glands....

The family Uloboridae do not have venom glands, yes, however, they do not bite their prey to subdue it, they wrap it in silk. The other species you might be thinking of is probably Liphistiidae, which consists of 5 genera and 87 species, some of which do posess venom and among those, some are thought to possibaly posess medically signaficent venom.
The Uloboridae are commonly found in the northern parts of Europe, so, depending on where this person lives, it could have been one....or any number of spiders at that.
Yes, not "all" spiders have venom, that is my bad for not wanting to go into this huge, drawn out explaination of which ones do not, why, etc. etc. because, quite honestly, I’ve had that discussion one too many times. It’s kind of like the fairy tale that daddy long legs are the most lethal spider on the planet....it gets old. However, point taken, I shall be more clear.
05/02/06  07:07am

 #767866


MamaFangs
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   Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 767712


 Spider in cricket box?

Next time I need spider info I shall be sure to ask an expert, not one who tries to fake being one, then backtracks by insulting lol.
Thanks for " enlightening us all ". Google can be and is a useful tool, and I am sure you use it as well.




05/02/06  11:27am

 #768452


Monitorkid
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   Message To: MamaFangs   In reference to Message Id: 767866


 Spider in cricket box?

whos faking here? i noticed you posted in several threads lately, and seem to be stirring things up a lot....
05/02/06  06:07pm

 #770240


Metz
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   Message To: Monitorkid   In reference to Message Id: 768452


 Spider in cricket box?

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whos faking here? i noticed you posted in several threads lately, and seem to be stirring things up a lot....


I think that’s supposed to be dirrected toward me.
But that’s ok, I’m not afraid of "backtracking", which is not what I did, nor was I tring to be an "expert" but anyway.....



05/03/06  06:28pm

 #770943


TutThePlatedLizard
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   Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 770240


 Spider in cricket box?

poor metz, haing to put up with dumb kids who think they’re smarter than everyone else in the world. oi-vey? andi thought it was bad when some kid in the turtle forum didnt kno what someones statement that the lived in the UK meant.....he didnt kno where the uk was! jeez... just out of curiousity metz, was IS the most venomous/most lethal spider known to man?
05/04/06  12:20am

 #771001


Metz
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   Message To: TutThePlatedLizard   In reference to Message Id: 770943


 Spider in cricket box?

That is often debated, but the Atrax robustus (Sydney funnel web) is considered the most venomous and dangerous to humans.
05/04/06  01:53am

 #771579


Sirena
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   Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 771001


 Spider in cricket box?

Do these "spider experts" have business cards? I sure would like to have their number handy!
05/04/06  05:57pm

 #771587


Sirena
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   Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 766360


 Spider in cricket box?

OH! I got it! These "experts" are certified arachnologists, right?
05/04/06  06:00pm

 #771883


Metz
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   Message To: Sirena   In reference to Message Id: 771587


 Spider in cricket box?

Yes, actually, they are.
05/04/06  07:56pm

 #1007813


Jmacdee1
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   Message To: Metz   In reference to Message Id: 771883


 Spider in cricket box?

Hey guys, sorry to bring this up again, but this is my first post on this site and i just wanted to add... i Also have found many of these spiders in my crickets and they are from certain sources.. let me add this info before i post ONE of the related websites...

There is a very deadly spider out there with a terrible bite, called a Brown recluse.... I think i have just found one in my new batch of crickets..

Check out this site for more info..... they mite just be a copy cat look alike, but interesting all the same ;)

the spiders i have found have been IDENTICAL to those in the next photo’s you;ll see

http://www.reptilerooms.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=printview&t=3096&start=0
10/03/06  02:39pm


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