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 #1643572


Kid dutra
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 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

ok well i have tegus before but i never bought them as a baby allways like oldder tegus i bought my first little baby a few months ago he was very attatched to me it seemd he then went into hybernation and just came out of it like 5 days ago i gave him his space and today i let him smell my hand for a minute went slowly to pet him and he fliped out bit at me and whiped his tail he then wedged himself against the corner of the tank and just looked at me i dont get what his problem is if hes still just grumpy from the sleep or what please any suggestions ive never had this problem b4

thanks ,leon
03/01/08  12:07pm

 #1643606


Reptililian Boy
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   Message To: Kid dutra   In reference to Message Id: 1643572


 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

Sounds like a situation that I hear about all the time on here...

Alec
03/01/08  12:47pm

 #1651359


Mike S
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   Message To: Kid dutra   In reference to Message Id: 1643572


 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

First off, for those who are going to rage at me for saying this, back off... you have your opinions and i have mine. I am answer his question with my opinion, if you dont like it, dont rage at me, keep it to yourself. Thank you

Anyway...
Well from my experiences, i would get a pair of thick gloves and just pick him up. He when he tail whips you or bites and you give up and just close the cage, he will register that if he bites and tailwhips you’ll leave him alone. Eventually he will get sick of biting and sick of tailwhipping and sick of running away. I just got another black and white Argentine in January, he was 4 months at the time and very skiddish as are all babies. I used the method above, and i have never been biten or tailwhipped.

And now my little zeek is the most docile thing in the world... its been less than two months about a month and 4 days ... and hes fantastic.. hes actually sitting in the hood of my sweatshirt as i type :P

So yea, in my opinion just grab him, hold him and let him kno that your not there to hurt him and he will eventually learn your not there to hurt him
03/07/08  09:15am

 #1651513


Kid dutra
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   Message To: Mike S   In reference to Message Id: 1651359


 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

yea thats good and thats sorta what i did minus the gloves lol ive had and have tegus the where better then any dog lol literaly the most docile reptiles its just from what ive notice that i think he was just cranky from the sleep becouse hes actualy in my lap right now i just fed and let him soak in his wated bucket for a little he seems to be fine now lol but thanks for the sugjestions as most tegus who hybornate are coming out right now hopefully some one who runs into a cranky tegu will be able to read this and just do what u sadi to becouse i did without the gloves and just took some bites but hes fine .... thanks


leon
03/07/08  12:20pm

 #1652802


GotHerps?
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   Message To: Kid dutra   In reference to Message Id: 1651513


 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

mike5 im glad someone else brought up that approach becuase i was kind of scared to lol. thats what i did with my baby iguana when i got it. he would keep biting and whiping me so i would wear a glove and gently handle him no matter what and he eventually learned that biting and whiping got him no where so he stopped. now he’s very tame. same with my columbian tegu. he was pretty weak and malnurished when i got him so he was pretty tame but after i got him under uvb and a proper diet he was the columbian from hell. i started wearing a glove when i handled him to avoid his flesh rending bites and after awhile he stopped trying to bite me after he saw it didnt deter me. he’s still skittish but i can handle him with out gloves because he doesnt try to bite.

hope this helps.
03/08/08  01:29pm

 #1652925


KMA
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   Message To: Kid dutra   In reference to Message Id: 1643572


 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

try hand feeding him for a while, then he’ll realize that you are the one that feeds him and will only come to you for food, if you’re feeding mice, always feed dead, if they’re fed dead, there is no use for aggression, then try to clean it’s enclosure without having to bother him, ignor the tegu as much as you can, then the tegu will realize that you are not doing anything to bother him, so he will not attack you or show any sign of aggression
next, try to handle him with gloves, never physically grab the animal, just scoop him up and support him, try doing this for the next couple weeks or so, the tegu should calm down a bit, then do it without gloves, carry on from there
03/08/08  03:16pm

 #1653019


Ameivaboy
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   Message To: KMA   In reference to Message Id: 1652925


 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

This thread is full of some of the worst ideas ever.
03/08/08  04:58pm

 #1653133


GotHerps?
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   Message To: Ameivaboy   In reference to Message Id: 1653019


 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

er on my post when i talk about "handling with gloves" i dont mean ripping them out of thier hide or perch i mean gentle easing my hand up to them with out getting bit now. forceable holding and handling never works well i am just talking about when you are trying to get them used to scooting your hand under them
03/08/08  06:43pm

 #1653274


Ameivaboy
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   Message To: GotHerps?   In reference to Message Id: 1653133


 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

Understood.

I am against pulling animals out and force holding them, then petting and stroking them.
That doesnt build trust, in fact it is completely anti progressive in forming a mutual respect/understanding.
If an animal is (for lack of a better word) tame from such methods, it is simply from breaking the animal. There are much more "freindly" and trust building ways to approach the matter at hand.


As far as the person who suggested hand feeding goes - it is apparent you have little to noexperience with mide size to large reptiles, or simply have been watching too many of DanceswithSavs (kaffir2 on youtube) videos. Having your animal associate you or your hand with food is NOT a desirable trait in most cases.
03/08/08  08:39pm

 #1653335


GotHerps?
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   Message To: Ameivaboy   In reference to Message Id: 1653274


 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

yes agreed hand feeding tegus and monitors almost always ends with stitches in the long run. ive seen some pretty nasty bites with is why im very careful to avoid that with my columbian
03/08/08  09:26pm

 #1653787


Kid dutra
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   Message To: GotHerps?   In reference to Message Id: 1653335


 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

lol who said to hand feed them??? thats rule 1....do not feed your tegu by hand especialy when u want to have them handlable someday becouse if u do that every time u open that cage to take him/her out thier going to automaticly goiong to put your hand and food together and think your feeding them at all times..... big no no o well (amievaboy) u keep saying to every one how what thier saying is wrong and not putting the right way to do things so for the people who are saying the wrong thing maybe u should tell them the right way instead of just putting them down .....

leon
03/09/08  10:25am

 #1653965


Ameivaboy
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   Message To: Kid dutra   In reference to Message Id: 1653787


 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

I have posted my advice on the forums many many times, it’s a shame people dont know how to use the search feature or are just too lazy to look through old posts. 90% of questions asked have been answered already more than once.

So---

You need to be non threatening to your animal. Pulling your animal out of it’s cage obviously is not accomplishing that. Front opening cages are the best way to start.
first get your tegu accustomed to your prescence outside of the cage to the point where it doesnt hide when you come near. This is easy anough to accomplish just have regular foot traffic around her cage.

Then after that is done, begin just sitting next to the cage with the door open (if you have a screen top cage you really need to step your game up) Dont gor for the tegu at all. just sit there. I would normally use this time to moisten down the substrate to make sure my humidity stays fine. this is fine as you are not going directly for your tegu. You are just working in the cage and it sees that you are not "after" it.

Once your tegu has gotten used to you working in and around it’s cage (this means it doesnt run away from you and it tolerates your prescence in close vicintity to it) You can begin yo touvch the aniaml, a little pet on the back or sides here and there is all you need. After you can get away with thatyou can work on gently picking them up.They have a natural tendancy to flail when they feel all their feet leave the ground, so this will take some work to get the desired result.

This is a good starting point, never get mad at your tegus either it’s not their fault you want to parade them around or handle them like a cat or dog, they are lizards. You will need to be very patient with your aniaml and at times may seem you’re making no progress at all, but you are slowly and surley building trust with your animal. Now you can also use your tegus desire to get out of their cage (whcih they will ghave) against them as well. simply open the cage when the are scratching at the glass and basically if they come to you to get out then that’s good, if they dont or try to go an alternate route then keep them in the cage and close the door.

I have posted videos and pictures etc in this forum as have other people in regards to taming tegus etc, please use the search feature people.
03/09/08  01:18pm

 #1654270


Guido1090
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   Message To: Ameivaboy   In reference to Message Id: 1653965


 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

i agree with ameivaboy, he knows what he is talking about.

i have read this thread a few times but i dont remember if this was mentioned. if your tegu is a columbian they normaly dont get "puppy tame" from what i understand. only argentine tegus get that tame.

a columbian is more of a display animal.


if this was already stated im sorry. i did not re read the thread. i have read it before.
03/09/08  05:38pm

 #1654301


Ameivaboy
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   Message To: Guido1090   In reference to Message Id: 1654270


 Grumpy tegu please sugestions.....

Yes if you have an extremeley "docile" teguixin then soemthing is wrong. Theyare nervous flightly aniamls by nature (it’s how they avoid predation as they have many more natural predators than their larger argetine and red relatives).

They can learn that you are not a threat to them but still wont tolerate being handled like an argentine would
03/09/08  05:54pm


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